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These Windows Are Energy Star Inferior, By Any Measure

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

In this new construction I found that these windows are Energy Star inferior, by any measure.

This is a beautiful, zillion $ house, with the builder claiming Energy Star all over it. 

I noticed that I could feel the sun through a bedroom window.  The day was not particularly warm, in the 60s.  But if you can feel warmth through a window at this time of year it is not the superior window one might expect in a house like this.

However, all the window performance stickers had been removed.  Except one!

It was located over the master bathtub.

The tub was full of the protective plastic and cardboard, and someone did not want to get in there yet to remove the window sticker.

Taking a photo and asking my client if this was the kind of sticker seen elsewhere, he said that he had taken photos of a couple of the other window stickers.

Indeed, they were the same!

If the windows really do have the same rating as this window, then they do NOT meet the Energy Star criteria for windows in our area.  The arrow on the right in the photo points to the Energy Star Partner rating, meaning this window manufacturer does make windows to Energy Star ratings.  (I have had supervisors point to that to say and pretend that the windows are Energy Star windows...)

What makes windows, and doors, Energy Star compliant?  The National Fenestration Rating Council (see the logo with the sun on the upper left of the label?) tests and determines the ratings for various manufactured products.  Fenestration  is an architectural term for the arrangement of windows and doors in a house.  The NFRC is the rating agency.

The two critical numbers are circled in red.  They are painfully high, which is why I felt the sun through the window.  The left is the U-factor, and the right the SHGC (Solar Heat Gain Coefficient).  The U-factor divided into 1 gives you the R-value for the window.  The Energy Star R-value for Virginia would be 3.3 or better. 

To meet Energy Star those numbers have to meet the criteria set for the area where the house is located.  You can see the page here, and look at the chart.  Virginia is in the North Central.  As such, to meet the Energy Star criteria the U-factor would have to be .30 or less, and the SHGC .40 or less.

THESE WINDOWS ARE ENERGY STAR INFERIOR, BY ANY MEASURE.

Asking the supervisor he claimed not to really know, but said that they use windows that "are better than the other builders," so he is sure there are good ones here.  It's hard to know if he was blowing smoke or honestly ignorant.

My recommendation:  see what your sales contract says in terms of energy criteria claims.  To be labeled an "Energy Star House" the materials and installations have to meet very stringent criteria and have it so rated and labeled by an outside agency.  Most houses DO NOT get that label.  It would appear on the panel box if it did.  But if the builder contract claims to use Energy Star "stuff," be sure the house contains it!  A home inspector can help you determine if it does.  And a pre-drywall inspection is the best time to check window and door installations!

 

 

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(34)

Ritu Desai 703-625-4949
Samson Properties - Chantilly, VA
Northern Virginia,Washington DC & Maryland Realtor

Jay you are the master at home inspection!!! Thanks for sharing. This is valuable information for both the new homes purchasers and home owners who are looking to replace old windows.

Mar 17, 2016 10:19 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

YICKS !   A big consumer BEWARE issue here....Trust is everything...and this is a big area...you have to wonder what else is not quite the way they described it !

Mar 17, 2016 10:22 PM
Marco Giancola
Beachfront Realty - Miami Beach, FL
Realtor (305)608-1922, Miami Beach Florida

Wow Jay good bust. Such a shame making false claims.

Mar 17, 2016 10:32 PM
Dianne Goode
Raleigh Cary Realty - Raleigh, NC
Realtor/Broker

Very few builders get the Energy Star certification, but many and many claim to be just as good.  Thank you for that link.  In future, I'll be taking photos of window stickers and making sure my clients get what they were promised.

Mar 17, 2016 10:41 PM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

Good morning Jay, I learned a lot about windows and energy star rating from this blog.  Thanks for the info, it is great for anyone who is building a house or happens to still have a sticker on any of their windows.

Mar 17, 2016 10:45 PM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

By the way, Jay, thanks for the link to the NFRC I will save it in my downloads for future reference.

Mar 17, 2016 10:48 PM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

"My recommendation:  see what your sales contract says in terms of energy criteria claims.  To be labeled an "Energy Star House" the materials and installations have to meet very stringent criteria and have it so rated and labeled by an outside agency."  Agreed Jay Markanich - and - re-blog!

Mar 17, 2016 11:08 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

False windows fear this man Jay Markanich 

Mar 17, 2016 11:50 PM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

I always like it when the superintendant is a 25 year old know it all... I find that quite amusing. I think ignorant is the right word... maybe honestly ignorant, those little whipersnappers!

Mar 17, 2016 11:58 PM
Margaret Goss
@Properties - Winnetka, IL
Chicago's North Shore & Winnetka Real Estate

How would a hapless buyer ever find this out without a proper inspection.  And if you say it should be done pre-drywall, how many buyers get in there before that?  Dishonest builders taint all the others.

Mar 18, 2016 12:02 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thanks Ritu.  Remember what I said in my last newsletter about new windows.  I sent you a copy!  If you need another one let me know.

S&D - about 30% of the energy in a house escapes through the windows and doors.  So this is huge.  And this is a big house!

Marco - perhaps true, but he may have only been parrotting what he has been told!

Dianne - it is easy to check.  On the chart in the link you are on the border between North Central and South Central.  The U-factor is the same, but the South Central has a lower SGHC rating.

 

Mar 18, 2016 12:42 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Sybil - the Energy Star criteria had been the same for many years.  It got more stringent this year.

T&S - as I said on your reblog, thanks!

Richie - wow, for an inanimate object that is something!   Must be the power of the Force, or something?  It is with me ...  FYI.

Fred - I asked a supervisor once what they do in terms of CEUs to keep current and he had no idea what I was talking about.  I already have over 100 CEU hours this year.  And I still cannot keep current.

Margaret - this buyer is no dummie - he is an uppity up for a major phone service company.  But he had the smarts to hire someone he thought he could trust to do an inspection.

 

Mar 18, 2016 12:46 AM
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Jay Markanich This is a very sad case of the builder cutting corners and the consumer paying the debt for years to come. Thanks for the alert.

Mar 18, 2016 01:24 AM
Bruce Brockmeier
Internet Marketing Consultant to REALTORS® - Yorba Linda, CA
Coached By Crouch

Hmm.  Sounds at least a little sneaky, to me.  Thanks for the heads up.

Mar 18, 2016 01:34 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Robin - and thanks for the comment!  You are correct - when a window is Energy Star compliant there is a map on the label which indicates where in the country the compliance creteria are met.  Often I see labels where the entire country is blackened in to indicate that the particular window works everywhere.   But certainly, here in Virginia the map would indicate compliance for here. 

No, there are no violations of the product here, except that it is not Energy Star compliant, by any measure, for Virginia.  My client indicated that his photos showed the same sticker, as is pictured here, on other windows, so I did not look at every one in the house.

Is there deception by NFRC, Energy Star or Ply Gem?  No!  And I did not indicate such.

S&N - I don't know what the builder's intent was here, but I do know that these windows are inefficient by comparison to what the buyer was expecting.

Bruce - perhaps!  This is not my first rodeo with a builder and window criteria (or insulation - that was another issue in this house!)...

Mar 18, 2016 02:29 AM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Jay Markanich now I know the difference!

And wonder why builders cut the corners for such a beautiful luxury home!

(It's always pleasure to read your posts - always something that I learn.)

Mar 18, 2016 10:10 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thank you Praful.  It's easy to do it right, and why would you not if you were building a home?

Mar 18, 2016 10:17 AM
Stephen Weakley
Nationwide Mortgage Services - Rockville, MD

Somebody woke up the sleeping NFRC giant!  Interestingly enough, you never stated they or the manufacturer was at fault, only that the homeowner was getting a bad deal.  Well done Jay.  Keep up the good work.

Mar 19, 2016 03:49 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

The builder was shopping the low-end windows on that one. Now where else were corners cut?

Mar 19, 2016 04:51 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

There is no fault here by anyone, except perhaps the person who ordered a window that probably doesn't meet the contractual obligations, Stephen.

Don - insulation.

But you already knew that!  I have more insulation push backs by builders than on any other thing!

This sort of thing was all over.

Notice the torn vapor retarder at the light fixture.  It was torn the same on 5 others.

Mar 20, 2016 02:59 AM