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When The Water Heater Gets Buried Behind A Wall

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

When the water heater gets buried behind a wall.

How can the water heater be removed?  What to do!?

Four years ago the kitchen was remodeled and a new water heater and furnace were put into the original closet in this house.  This installation created many problems.

Apparently the order of installation went like this -

Step 1.  The 22" diameter water heater was installed.  It got dinged and dented in many places.  It barely fit into the space front to back, so it was likely larger than the older unit that was there previously.

Step 2.  A new furnace was installed.  Notice the bottom of the furnace was 2" wider than the base of the previous unit.  But the opening beside the furnace and the edge of the cabinet was only 17".

Step 3.  Installing the plumbing, the AC line and the gas lines to the HVAC unit.

So now, how can the water heater be removed if needed?  Reverse those steps by first removing the AC and gas lines - removing the entire HVAC unit - and then removing the water heater.

Not only that, but the new water heater does not allow access around the lower side to be able to shut off the water main!  In fact, it sat right beside the water main.  Can you see it?  A cropped photo of the valve is below.

Explain how it is possible to shut off the water?  Apparently in the last four years there has not been a need.

Even if someone could climb over the water heater and shimmy down into the cavity beside and reach the water main valve, it is touching the edge of the heater and it would be very difficult to shut it off!  But climbing over would be virtually impossible as the plumbing tubing is there, as well as the furnace vent.

This is poor, poor planning and remodeling indeed.

My client, the potential buyer of this house, would be inheriting a mess.

My recommendation:  nobody noticed this before during the planning and execution?   The contractor thought this was a good idea?  How is it that the home inspector can walk in and glance at the opening and immediately understand the ramifications of such an appliance installation?  It took some quick measurements to prove how unfortunate and unthinking the installation was.  Do you think a buyer without a home inspection would have noticed this?  Do you think that buyer would have learned quickly had the water main needed to be shut off?  Learning about things after one buys the house is not the best time.  The best time to become informed about the home one is purchasing is beforehand, with a thorough and competent home inspection.

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(16)

Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

I have only seen this once in a home while doing an inspection. Why?

Jan 22, 2017 05:37 AM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Good morning Jay. Did your customer understand the word "pass"? Enjoy your day!

Jan 22, 2017 05:41 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Harry - one time a seller had built a drywalled space completely around and hiding the water heater.  I told my client that I could do nothing to see the water heater but that if I walked away and suddenly a hole was there I would not have known exactly how that hole got there.  I went into another place, heard a smash, came back and magically there was a hole so we could see the unit!  And good thing.  It was installed entirely incorrectly!

Wayne - this was not the only bad planning and execution!  The report was, um, lengthy...

Jan 22, 2017 06:14 AM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I helped a realative remove one that burned out and it was not a pleasent job.

Jan 22, 2017 07:01 AM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Wow! That is a tradesman nightmare for sure. I see it a lot. People have no idea how much a service call on one of those units will cost. That's the perfect place for a tankless water heater. They could have had one installed for the cost of one service call. 

Jan 22, 2017 07:05 AM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

What's that smell? I smell a flipper in the house...

Jan 22, 2017 07:19 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

William - removing a water heater is no fun even when it's accessible!

Mike - I have to believe the contractor knew what a mess he was leaving.  And as to tankless I advise my clients to say no, they aren't there yet.  Even the green guys agree with me.

Fred - this was a homeowner!  They "remodeled" the kitchen and bathrooms, and did so not realizing what was left for them I think.  Those are the canister lights installed over the "remodeled" bathroom.   It was the same over the other bathroom and kitchen!  Forgoto insulationo.  Actually I know how to say that properly in Spanish, but Spanglish is more fun.

Jan 22, 2017 09:21 AM
John Pusa
Glendale, CA

Jay Markanich This water heater can be hazardous to the property.

Jan 22, 2017 10:46 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

You certainly do come across the strangest things! What I want to know is how they turned the water on to that heater after it was installed.

Jan 22, 2017 12:17 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

It can if there's a problem with it John!  And to the whole house had there been a serious plumbing problem.

Marte - the water heater had its own shut off.  I suspect that to replace it they only needed to shut off the water heater valve, leaving the main untouched.

Jan 22, 2017 12:44 PM
Stephen Weakley
Nationwide Mortgage Services - Rockville, MD

You can imagine how painful it was to install the water heater and HVAC unit.  They knew exactly the mess they were creating but didn't care.  Install, get paid, leave.  Not my problem anymore.

Jan 22, 2017 01:05 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

One hopes that is not true, but certainly I see this crap all the time and am cynical enough to think it is no accident, Stephen.

Jan 22, 2017 01:11 PM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally
For some people common sense can go out the window, and in this case it was lost on both the homeowners and the contractors that did the work
Jan 22, 2017 01:32 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Ed - I wonder, as to both parties!

What's the song say?  "And I wonder ... I won, won, won, won, wooonderrrr."

Jan 22, 2017 01:37 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

what a mess.

Jan 22, 2017 05:05 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Ay, ay, cap'n Bliz.

And in more ways than just this installation!

Jan 22, 2017 05:10 PM