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First Time Home Buyer and Insurance

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Real Estate Agent with West + Main

Often times when I sit down with a first time home buyer we go over the expenses they may not have thought about, taxes and insurance to name two. Insurance is tricky, often times a buyer will ask me what I think the insurance will cost them. We all know that it varies from location to location, home to home and person to person, but what impact will this have on the buyer?

Sometimes the impact is more than we would expect, I had two different buyers, that purchased very similar properties in the same area. These were both manufactured homes on 5 acres both were triple wides (2200 sq ft) and both had a very nice shop and other out buildings.

Buyer A - paid cash for his property and paid $225,000 - he uses the property as a second home. He has excellent credit - our first quote was for $1400 a year - we made another call to a local company and were able to insure the property for $465 a year.

Buyer B - had 100% financing - paid $220,000 - lives in the home - has mediocure credit - our first quote was $2200 a year - we called the local company and was able to insure him for $775 a year.

Our first quotes were with a national company and these properties are in what is called a class 6 fire area. The fire department is 12 to 15 miles away. Neither of these homes have had any prior claims, we did receive a C.L.U.E. report on each property. They are both the same distance from the fire department, it all came down to the buyer and their credit.

Last year I had 2 sales that failed on the closing table because during the transaction fire protection had decreased and no one would underwrite the policy.

When you represent a buyer knowing the impact of this could be vital, many times a buyer does not get an insurance binder until the end of a transaction, I always encourage my buyers to start getting quotes the day we have acceptance.

After reading Laurie Manny's article Long Beach Condo Fire - Are You Thinking About Buying a Long Beach Condo? I got to thinking about the buyers that are trying to obtain the American Dream and may not know the impact of insurance and their payment. My guess is that the condo with a sprinkler system vs. a condo without is much easier and affordable to insure, not to mention sleep better at night.

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M. Suzi Woods (Gravenstuk)
NOW Sharing the life and spice of the GC one day at a time - Grand Canyon, AZ
Suzi Woods, Prior Independent REBroker in MS
Thesa, interesting blog. Insurance is definitely a challenge in the Mississippi Gulf Coast right now. Some sellers are offering 1 and 2 years insurance paid. I still haven't figured out how they're doing it...
Apr 08, 2007 04:47 PM
Teri Eckholm
Boardman Realty - White Bear Lake, MN
REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro
Thesa--Your post is right on! It is so important to get that insurance rider asap after you write an offer. I also check the disclosures to see if the new roof was from hail damage or if there was a water problem or fire...If there was, we ask the seller to order the clue report or move to the next home....Very good and important post! 
Apr 09, 2007 09:38 AM
Bob Sloop, Consultant, Indianapolis, IN
RS Mortgage Consulting - Indianapolis, IN
Thesa, gotta have it dear, no way around it, and fast.  good post...
Apr 09, 2007 09:55 AM
Ray Saenz
Exit Realty Laredo - Laredo, TX
Homes for Sale in Laredo, TX - Texas, Realtor

thesa,

oohh yes, ask me about the variances, from location to location, I completely agree with that.

Apr 09, 2007 10:07 PM
Thesa Chambers
West + Main - Bend, OR
Principal Broker - Licensed in Oregon

Suzi - I bet you have some major issues - what a great incentive to offer the insurance paid - very creative.  thanks for the comment

Teri - So glad you know what a C.L.U.E. report is - you would be amazed at how many do not here.  thanks for the comment

Bob - yeah you do gotta have it - and the quicker you are sure about the costs the better - thanks for your post

Ray - had some issues with it too uh?  thanks for the comments

Apr 10, 2007 03:30 AM
Teri Eckholm
Boardman Realty - White Bear Lake, MN
REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro
Thesa--I know what a CLUE report is  are but it is hard to get them. It has to be the seller that pulls the report. If there is an issue, they might not be as willing. Do you make offers contingent on the seller providing an acceptable report?
Apr 10, 2007 06:01 AM
M. Suzi Woods (Gravenstuk)
NOW Sharing the life and spice of the GC one day at a time - Grand Canyon, AZ
Suzi Woods, Prior Independent REBroker in MS

More 2 cents C.L.U.E. report is not deemed as necessary at least in my corner of the world. I brought it up in a recent CE class and ALL, including the instructor looked at me as if I had lost my mind. I understand the value and rationale, but it gets a little wearisome bringing unwelcome concepts in. The summary of the attitude was that claims follow the seller, credit and personal prior claims follow the Buyer.

So, if anyone has a politically correct way to introduce the need and validity of a C.L.U.E. report when we have "Sellers Disclouseres:-)" and property inspections to rely on...  I have tried to approach it with sellers from the stand point of buyer trust levels. so far hasn't worked yet.

Apr 10, 2007 06:23 AM
Ray Saenz
Exit Realty Laredo - Laredo, TX
Homes for Sale in Laredo, TX - Texas, Realtor

Thesa,

well problems problems not really, but yes, it is so funny how many insurance companies or agents give different quotations depending their area,  they specialize or have better quotes in different areas, when something works for you in a area and with that insurance company with other person it does not work the same, very weird, but true  , even when they have the same credit, etc    or  for instance    for me  works  All state and  for other people works other insurance companies.   Kind of complicated, even some insurance agents they do not know the answer, the only answer is   the AREA :)

Apr 10, 2007 06:45 AM
Paula Henry
Home to Indy Team @ HomeSmart Realty Group - Avon, IN
Realtor - Indianapolis Real Estate - 317-605-4174
Thesa - you have hit on a very important topic for any buyer. Taxes and insurance can change the cost and payment of a home. Buyers should check into this as soon as they write an offer.
Jun 13, 2007 02:40 AM
Teri Eckholm
Boardman Realty - White Bear Lake, MN
REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro

Thesa--Read this again and it is still such an important post....Insurance, credit and CLUE reports are something every agent, buyer and seller needs to know about.

Jul 25, 2007 12:59 AM
Maggie Dokic /Indialantic | 321-252-8696
Magdalena Dokic - Indialantic, FL
Selling the beach in Florida's space coast
Thesa, I love the added value you bring to your Oregon real estate clients.  This is a great post on things vital to any closing.  Your consumer is lucky to have you!
Jul 25, 2007 11:32 AM
Leah Ross
Your Tampa Bay Mortgage Source - Tampa, FL
Tampa, Florida Mortgage
Thesa ~ This is such a huge part of the financial piece the homebuyer needs to understand.  It can make a big difference when it comes to the payment.  Your Central Oregon homebuyers are lucky to have an agent like you who is willing to take the time to explain this important piece of the picture.  Kudos to you!
Jul 26, 2007 01:18 PM