Should You Replace Your Car Before You Do A Short Sale?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC BK607690

florida short sale brokerHi folks. Recently I have had several Florida Short Sale sellers ask me the same question.....”We need to replace our car. Should we do that before we go through the short sale process?” The concern is that once they go through the short sale their credit will be dinged and financing an automobile will not be easy. One is even paying cash and is concerned how it will look that he went out and spent $15,000 cash on a car and then turned around and asked the lender to accept a short sale.

Interesting question. And one that certainly shows that we are in a different stage of the short sale wave. The Short Sale Sellers mentioned above do not have cut and dry hardships. They are current on payments and have great credit scores.

The first wave of short sellers that started mostly in 2008 were distressed sellers. Property owners that could no longer afford to make their mortgage payments. The next wave were folks that had adjustable rate mortgages that were resetting and they couldn’t refinance as promised when they took out their mortgages.

The current wave is made up of folks that just need to sell but can’t because their properties are too far underwater. They are current on their payments and are not in foreclosure. They could continue to make payments. BUT....they have to move.

Their family has out grown the property. They have a job transfer. Or they are strategic short sellers.

Their situations are different than the first two waves of short sales...

So......should they go out and replace their car prior to doing the short sale? It depends. My response to them is........

  • “If replacing your car is something you would be doing even if you weren’t getting ready to do a short sale then, yes, go ahead and do it. If dependable transportation is needed for job purposes then, yes, go ahead and replace it now. Do what you need to do to make sure your family is taken care of. BUT...be able to defend your position if the lender ask you about it. Be able to show that buying a car was needed and not just wanted. And.....be prepared to make a cash contribution towards the short sale lender’s loss.”

This is my opinion. What’s yours?

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  1. Mike Cooper, GRI 12/10/2011 02:14 AM
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Frank Laisch
Orlando, FL
"The Insurance Guy"

Excellent post and good advice, Being able to defend your decision is always important. Have a great day!

Dec 10, 2011 12:32 AM #1
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Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

If they need to get financing for the car, they better do it before they go delinquent on payments on the short sale.  Otherwise they may not get financed at all. 

To me these strategic short salers have to answer that personal question for themselves.  Do they short sale and damage their credit and break a contract vs. stay trapped in a house that they can barely afford but protect their credit and keep their word? Not an easy decision. 

Dec 10, 2011 01:07 AM #2
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Melissa Zavala
Broadpoint Properties - Escondido, CA
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Well, I pretty much agree with you. What is interesting is that we still have many sellers in the first of the two waves you describe.

Dec 10, 2011 01:41 AM #3
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Sheila Anderson
Referral Group Incorporated - East Brunswick, NJ
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Good morning Bryant. Great post. I don't do short sales at all, but my view, like yours, is that the people requesting them today are different. The car question blows my mind. I can't decide what would make anyone feel entitled to walk away from a responsibility. I lost $$$$$ in the stock market, and don't expect anyone to make me whole. Things happens, both good and bad. I love your picture.

Dec 10, 2011 01:45 AM #4
Rainmaker
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Ken's Home Team LLC. | 360.609.0226 | Portland, OR & Vancouver, WA Real Estate Team
Ken's Home Team LLC. - Vancouver, WA
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I deal with this daily and it is a difficult situation.   I tell the people that they have a made an obligation to the home they purchasesed and the bank that financed it, and during this process they will look at all your finances, everything you have done and they will want to see monthly bank statements.  It is up to them I can only tell them what my experience is and what we have seen the bank do...

Dec 10, 2011 01:46 AM #5
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Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Great advice to home owners and agents who are faced with this question. 

My instinct says that most agents would advice a quick DON'T.

If the vehicle is needed for work, there's only one answer.

Dec 10, 2011 01:48 AM #6
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Diane M. Phillips Realtor 443-286-4365
Frankly Real Estate Inc. - Manchester, MD
Specializing in Carroll Co., MD

Bryant ~ interesting very real situation, I agree if you need a vehicle for work you have to do what you have to do. Excellent advice.

Dec 10, 2011 02:04 AM #7
Rainmaker
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Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Shilea. Most of the folks I deal with are not shirking their responsiblity. They have to move and are therefore offering their lender an alternative to foreclosure. You can take your stocks with you. You can't move a house and most lenders won't move the loan. So the only option is to offer the lender a compromise. That's a short sale.

Dec 10, 2011 02:49 AM #8
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Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
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Good morning Bryant,

Intersting conundrum, and one that I have not had to attempt to answer.  I have not been aware of any short sale sellers that were doing their best to meet their current obligations...not taking on any new debt.

Dec 10, 2011 03:07 AM #9
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Tanya Nouwens
RE/MAX ROYAL (JORDAN) INC. / Tanya Nouwens Inc. www.readysetsold.ca - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Real Estate Broker & Stager

I really like your perspective here, Bryant, and the way you explained it.  When I read the beginning of your blog, I thought: "Wow, what a complex situation."  Your response took the complexity right out of it and made it seem common-sensical.  Well done.

Dec 10, 2011 03:11 AM #10
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Cathy McAlister
Cathy Ashley McAlister, GRI CDPE - Broker / Sacramento - Sacramento, CA
Sacramento DRE#00648507

Another example of why the "right" dialog is so important.   It is good to be prepared.   But, we are finding lenders do not seem to be questioning large disbursements as much as they did a few years back. 

Dec 10, 2011 03:42 AM #11
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

BB - It would be rare that an individual or family for that matter can be productive without a dependable vehicle.  A quickly depreciating asset such as a car is a necessary part of most of our lives so I say BUY IT.  Next time the need arises we should be looking at a little more daylight around us.     

Dec 10, 2011 05:14 AM #12
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Vickie Nagy
Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate - Palm Springs, CA
Vickie Jean the Palm Springs Condo Queen

I have had banks/investors pont out high car expenses as a reason for requesting seller contributions. Have you?

Dec 10, 2011 09:07 AM #13
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Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Bryant

Guess it depends on what/how they're buying. If they're buying an inexpensive but USED car, it may be justifiable to say they will need it for their job.

But to pay CASH? C'mon! Who'd believe the owners are in distress if they have that much money to pay?

Dec 10, 2011 03:58 PM #14
Rainmaker
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Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Pacita. Not all short sellers are in distress. In fact most of mine right now aren't. But they have to sell. If you have to sell and you're underwater and can't afford to pay the difference then a short sale may very well be a solution.

Dec 10, 2011 11:51 PM #15
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Kim Boekholder Utah Real Estate
Results Real Estate 801.580.5624 - Draper, UT
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Bryant I agree with  you and I just got asked that question last week.  I agree we are entering into a new wave of short sales. Great post and advice. Thanks for sharing.

Dec 11, 2011 01:40 AM #16
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Lang Premier Properties
Lang Premier Properties - Clawson, MI
Metro Detroit Real Estate Group

Great post!  I have not been asked this before, but I do see other things similar.

I agree that this is a whole new group of short seller's we have now.  I get calls from many people who believe you still have to be behind in payments in order to get a short sale approved. If they only knew!

Best of luck in 2012.

Dec 16, 2011 10:27 AM #17
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Goran Utvic
606 Homes LLC | Chicagoland Brokers Inc, Chicago IL 60656 - Chicago, IL
We Buy & Sell Chicago Houses Fast

Unless the car is a luxury car I don't see why the bank would have a problem with it...might be a hard sell trying to convince the lender you needed to purchase a fully loaded convertible Benz to get to work!

Dec 20, 2011 09:56 AM #18
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