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Paper, Paper....Put It On Paper

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Real Estate Agent with Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 BRE# 01494165

 

Paper, Paper....Put It On Paper

 

Once the short sales and foreclosures started to happen in our market, people were forced to find other ways to house their family. Of course renting was the most common, but we have also seen the rise of lease-option contracts. 

I'm going to say this loudly...I would never recommend this option. There are so many ways it can go wrong.

But...if you are going to try and create a lease-option situation, please put it in writing. Verbal real estate contracts in California DO NOT EXIST!!

I'm working with a young couple who lost all of their down payment in a lease option. They paid their landlord $15,000 and an extra $500/month to have first right of refusal in two years. (Makes me sad and crazy).

Problem is that they did not put this in writing. How does this happen? Desperate young couple who did not have good advice and no agent. The landlord just short sold the home and has declared bankruptcy. 

While they are still exploring any possible legal options, truth is the seller has no money.

It's a scary, risky option. But one thing that absolutely has to happen is to work with an attorney...not even a real estate professional...a lawyer. Do your homework, know the credit history of the landlord and put it in writing. On paper, filed. 

Sad, very sad. 

In my clients' case, their parents are making them whole, not many people have this option available to them. Be patient and do things when they happen. 

Comments(35)

Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

Karen, that is sad. The seller got the money and the buyer ends up with nothing but having overpaid for a rental. I also am not a fan of lease option/purchase. I looked into it a while ago for a client and everything I learned about it favors the landlord/seller, even when the transaction is done with the assistance of an attorney and a legitimate escrow. 

Oct 10, 2015 05:37 AM
Stefan Winter
Real Estate in IL & NV | Owner of Real Estate Web Tech | Daily Vlogger - Las Vegas, NV
Owner - Winter Group & Real Estate Web Tech

That must have been a hard lesson to learn, lease options can work great if done properly and in writing. Even outside of real estate anything involving money should be in writing, it is the best option to protect yourself.

Oct 10, 2015 06:45 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Karen, many years ago, when I bought my house, it was with this type of arrangement - and I had every single item in our agreement put into a contract. It worked out amazingly well, but it could just as easily not have.  Paper is really, really important!

Oct 10, 2015 07:51 AM
Gwen Banta
Sotheby's International Realty - Los Angeles, CA

What a terrible experience for them! My mentor always said, "Paper it now, or pay for it later."

Oct 10, 2015 08:09 AM
Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co Notary Services retired RE Broker

You are so right Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner and as Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI said have a legal professional do it. Realtors that are crazy enough to "write something up" are risking everything they own and more if a case ends up in  court.

Oct 10, 2015 08:54 AM
Sussie Sutton
David Tracy Real Estate - Houston, TX
David Tracy Real Estate for Buyers & Sellers

How sad. This happens a lot more than we realize. If we write about it often enough maybe more will become aware of it and not go this option. Or at the very least go into it with an attorney's written point of view.

Oct 10, 2015 10:18 AM
Mark Don McInnes, Sandpoint-Idaho
Sandpoint Realty LLC - Sandpoint, ID
North Idaho Real Estate - 208-255.6227

Karen your advice is sound.  There are just too many scam artists out and about right now.  One can not be TOO careful.  Mark

Oct 10, 2015 11:15 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Hi Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner ,

OMG..so sad for this couple..in Texas no verbals..only in writing..as it should be!!

Oct 10, 2015 11:25 AM
Chris Lima
Turtle Reef Realty - Port St Lucie, FL
Local or Global-Allow me to open doors for you.

Awesome awareness post, Karen. People that are desperate are at a disadvantage when it comes to decisions such as these. Sadly, they become easy prey and it becomes more of a sad situation.😟

Oct 10, 2015 11:25 AM
Michael McGuffie
Regal Classic Homes - Windermere, FL
Custom Home Building, Additions & Remodeling

Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner, Tough lesson learned the hard way. Sorry for them.

Oct 10, 2015 11:45 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

I don't like lease options. When folks consider this, I tell them they must hire an attorney and have them draft the documents that will protect them. 

Oct 10, 2015 12:42 PM
Sham Reddy CRS
Howard Hanna RE Services, Dayton, OH - Dayton, OH
CRS

Great point:

Work with an attorney...not even a real estate professional...a lawyer. Do your homework, know the credit history of the landlord and put it in writing, If they had it writing things could have been different

Oct 10, 2015 09:23 PM
Roger D. Mucci
Shaken...with a Twist 216.633.2092 - Euclid, OH
Lets shake things up at your home today!

How awful for that young couple who lost all that money.....everything needs to be in writing.....everything. 

Oct 10, 2015 09:54 PM
Richard Robibero, e-Pro, ABR, SRS
Panorama R.E. Limited - Toronto, ON
Selling Your Home as if it were My Own!

Yet another example as to why Buyers need representation.

Oct 10, 2015 10:37 PM
Austin Seagrave
Austin Seagrave Realty - Charlotte, NC
Concierge Real Estate Services

Wow! What a shame for those folks.  Had not thought of this, so it's definitely an aha! moment for me.

Oct 10, 2015 11:50 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner Too bad for this young couple. More than likely not much they could do even if it were in writing. At the least the funds should have been put in escrow.

Oct 10, 2015 11:53 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

I couldn't agree with you more Karen!  We just had our MLS revise the listing with a lease option.  I can't stand them, and I caution buyers.  If they can't get financing now, in two years (which goes by so quickly) and their credit still sucks, they're going to risk their lease option money.  

Oct 11, 2015 04:14 AM
Thomas McCombs
Century 21 HomeStar - Akron, OH

Lease options, like many other creative financial systems are very useful tools if used properly.

They must be prepared by an attorney, and of course they must be in writing.

But there are as many instances of sellers getting the short end of these kinds of deals as there are buyers. There are predatory buyers as well as sellers.

Oct 11, 2015 09:12 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

That is so sad for that couple who have lost all and no longer have  place to live.  The landlord just pocketed their money and must not have paid the mortgage. That is criminal

Oct 11, 2015 11:14 AM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner get everything in writing. In fact, you mentioned, verbal contracts do not exist in CA - and that seems to be true for all states, to best of my knowledge.

(He said, she said does not work in court in such cases.)

Oct 11, 2015 03:04 PM