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The Love of Nails

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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

Installing roofing on a home is basically a pretty simple process. Which may explain why there are so many roofers. This may also explain why bad roof jobs are one of the most prevalent consumer complaints.

The roof shingles are the most obvious component of the roof, but what about that shiny metal flashing. Flashings are used to shed and repel water from around penetrations through the roof. Almost without exception every roof is going to have at minimum a plumbing vent and or a chimney.

The thing about flashings is they aren't supposed to be nailed. At the very least not have exposed nails going through the metal. Yet I find nails through flashings time and time again.  

The top photo is a classic example of unnecessary nailing. That is a common plumbing vent with flashing. Notice the two nails at the bottom, I mean how could you not, right?

I find the logic of doing this hard to follow. The roofer is putting in hundreds of shingles one after another. He nails them just above the center so the next shingle will cover over the nail. Comes to the vent, slides on the flashing and puts two nails in the front where nothing can cover them over. Huh!

Does he not see the obviousness of the broken pattern?  Yet I find this done all the time. Mind boggling.

The next photo is not quite as common, but I do see it fairly frequently. This roofer decided to reinforce the attachment of the chimney counter flashing to the chimney with some nails. Again what was this guy thinking? I mean no why that's not going to leak, yeah right!

It looks like some roofers just love them nails.

James Quarello
NRSB #8SS0022
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

James, I think they need to whack their nail with a hammer and WAKE UP!

Jul 14, 2009 09:50 AM
Randi Brammer
Randi Brammer, Acctg. - Hinckley, MN
Accountant & Tax Preparer

If there is money to be made in any type of a job...everyone is an expert!

Jul 14, 2009 10:13 AM
TIM MONCRIEF
Tim Monciref - Austin, TX
Over 2,000 homes sold…..

With the amount of liability involved, it is incomprehensible how a roofer would not be covering his/her tail on installation procedures.  We are talking about water damage, mold, and on and on.

Jul 14, 2009 10:16 AM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

James, I think that there are pros and cons to this as I see so many of these lift after a period of time because the rubber on the boot shrinks. Water then blows under the flashing and into the roof. Damned if you do - Damned if you don't...

Jul 14, 2009 10:20 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Charlie, Or their head.

Randi, How true.

Tim, The way it is here, they fly by nighters don't have much to worry about.

Michael, When the rubber shrinks it just runs down the pipe any how. Of course if everyone did them like this guy did, lifting would not be a problem.

Jul 14, 2009 11:19 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

James,

You have a point there. I see exposed nail heads all the time and wonder why the so-called roofer does not know better.

Jul 14, 2009 12:27 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Steve, It would seem logical that if the shingle nails are covered then why put nails that are exposed in the flashing.

Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

James - I know here in AZ there are a lot of roof jobs that are done by unlicensed contractors, so I guess you get what you pay for.

Jul 14, 2009 02:55 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Troy, Here in CT no licensing is required for contractors and home builders.

Jul 14, 2009 10:28 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

When you hit your thumb with a hammer too many times, it drains blood from the brain...

Jul 15, 2009 11:43 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Jay, That must happen a lot to roofers because I see this done so often.

Jul 15, 2009 12:06 PM