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14 Comments on Sellers' Market Demolishes First Time Home Buyer Credit
Hi Dave, Incredibly awesome stats. If I attract a buyer in your neck of the woods, I will look you up.
Thanks.
Thanks Rick. I've always had great results choosing fellow 'Rainers for referrals. I won's say we're the greatest collection of agents the world has ever seen...but I could.
Dave - Ditto! Great chart! I bet my market wouldn't be all that different. Around here, the 250k is pretty the price range for several of my first time buyers but it's also the price range a lot of investors also have the cash to buy and then rent out for more than what my first time buyers could have purchased it at. Go figure.
Hi Dave,
What is the X-axis on this chart? Is it just sequential sales of homes from 2008-2009? It would be interesting to graph the proportion of list price homes sold for by month. Of course, this doesn't account for the lowball list prices we have been seeing on the market as of late.
Cheers!
Just to clarify the above comment. I would be interesting in seeing the proportion of list price - that homes sold for - by month. The data has got to be out there right?
Brian,
the X axis is sequential sales, but only for July and part of August of this year. I do generate lots of charts for the proportion of list price. It's an important tool that helps me figure out how to bid based on neighborhood, price range, listing agent, etc. In particular, there is significant different in the results depending on what price range you are looking at. In the graph above I was looking at entry level homes in our area.
Dave,
I'm looking at the SFR 250-400k price point in Petaluma. The selling strategy there (and other places obviously) has been to underlist homes to create a multiple bid situation. Is that born out by the stats you are seeing? In other words, has the final price/list price steadily ticked up over the summer?
Thanks for the site. I've found it a bit harder to find Sonoma County real estate info online (as far as blogs/discussions go).
I pulled the 157 Petluma Single Family Home sales from $250K to 400K and generated a chart showing what percent difference there is between list price and selling price. I added a red trend line that shows people are paying a higher percentage of list price now than earlier in the year when the average selling price was less than the listing price. Some of that is seasonal. We are in the busiest time of the year for sales right now and the demand is substantially higher, especially for bargain priced homes.
I'd like to add that in previous years I have analyized agent behavior to see if rumors of intentional under-pricing were borne out. It's possible that some agents use this as a strategy, but almost all of the agents with significant sales volume had roughly equal number of sales over and under the list price. I think what we are all seeing is strong demand...make that very strong demand...at entry level housing prices. That alone can account for the bump up in selling vs. list prices without pricing games.
Hi Dave! That's a great chart. Thanks for sharing.
Dave, I'm really impressed by your chart analysis! This is the most technical information I've seen from a realtor. You are a true pro!
Even without being a math/statistics major, it's clear to all of us that overbidding is a fact of life now, and it's a rare gem of a listing agent who will consider the person behind the offer. Thanks for a great chart!
I too am miserable for my pre-approved Sonoma County buyers, the saddest of which are the VA loan buyers. These are qualified Sonoma County first time homebuyers wanting to take advantage of a valid and well earned benefit to get into their first, modest home. The go to the bottom of the offer heap real quick. The REO sellers, the same banks bailed out by our national tax dollars, will take the quick buck of investor's cash over the 100% VA financing with its fussy VA requirement of a clear pest report. Even if the veteran offers 15% more than the cash offer he or she is out in the cold. Shame on those selling banks and their asset managers. If it were local banks selling the property, they would be more willing to invest in the neighborhoods by selling to owner-occupied veteran buyers. But the big banks, the ones who made the shoddy loans that were then sold on the secondary market, are the ones with all the low-priced REO listings.
Excuse the rant, but banks are banks are banks. Don't get me started on the witholding of inventory to increase values...
Thanks for your writing, Dave.
Kathy, That's a powerful and well written rant. I couldn't agree with you more. I wish there was a separate inventory of property that could only be sold to first time buyers, especially VA qualified families. I just wrote another post about the Windsor market vs. Rohnert Park. There seems to be a little less frenzy in Windsor than in Rohnert Park, so you may want to test the waters there.
Hi Dave,
We're seeing this to some degree in my area. Our prices are lower than your area's. Still, the cash investors have been out in force this year.