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“I’m Buying Leads, Now What?” Part Two

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A few days ago, we ran a post discussing initial email contact with Internet leads. We got some great feedback from the AR community.  As a follow-up to that discussion, I'd like to introduce some ideas on the next step after the email: the all-important phone call.  While my intent is to provide some best practices tools for RealtyNow, our pay per sale lead program, these strategies can be incorporated into any lead or advertising program you're using.

Before we get started, here is a recap of the RealtyNow program:

  • $99.95 monthly membership fee gets you access to the program
  • You build the coverage area you want to target by cities, counties, zips, or a combination of all three
  • We send you unlimited leads in real time, which means you'll receive the lead less than 10 minutes after the consumer submits their request
  • If you close a transaction through RealtyNow with a property price of $150K or more, you'll pay a flat $1000 advertising fee.
  • If you close a transaction that is less than $150K, you won't pay anything other than the monthly membership fee
  • Extremely low-risk, cancel at anytime

 

(To learn more about RealtyNow, or to sign up, please visit www.realtynow.com or call 925-983-3400, ext. 1011.)

As I've said before, your success with any Internet lead relies heavily on your follow-up process.  Now that we've given some ideas on how to draft a first-contact email, let's discuss phone strategy.  The goal with working an Internet lead is to eventually get the client to agree to meeting you in person. I think we can all agree that the likelihood of representing the client in their next real estate transaction is much higher when you can meet them in person versus over the phone. That said, let's keep in mind that it may take a few calls and emails to achieve this goal.  Don't rush it.  Remember: the consumer is still in control.

Ultimately, you need to work whatever follow-up process and approach best matches your own selling style, but here are a few tips for your first call.  This call should be made within one hour, but ideally you'll be calling as soon as you receive the lead, and after you've sent a welcome email:

•1.       Begin the call by respecting the consumer's privacy and giving them control.  This will put the client at ease and encourage him or her to open up.

•2.       Every relationship is valuable; until you meet with this client in person, you truly do not know what this prospect could become

•3.       Be professionally persistent; if you don't connect on the first call, I recommend calling at three different times of the day, three days in a row

•4.       Get information before you give it, ask good questions, and deliver excellent service.  After all, this is still essentially your "first impression"

•5.       Don't always go for the close on the first call

Here is an example of a sample phone call script for the first call. Italic type indicates the actual script. Everything else is commentary:

 

Hello (client name), this is (your name here) with (your company here).  First, I want you to know that I respect your privacy and will interact with you in whatever manner is best for you.  The reason I'm reaching out to you is because I received your request for information on real estate, and my goal is to simply provide you with that information you need. 

By now, you should have also received the email I sent you when I received your request.  Is this a good time to talk? 

(If yes, proceed)

(If not, schedule a time to call back)

Great, (client).  As I mentioned, I specialize in helping clients with their real estate needs in the (area that client is interested in) market.  Before we go further, it important to me that I understand what your goals are, and then I can prepare some info for us to review together, is that fair?  (Rarely will someone say "no" here, since you've already confirmed that they can talk right now).  (Client), how would you describe your real estate needs?

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Now let's stop for a second.  The goal for this call should be to find an opportunity to ask questions, so keep that in mind.  Based on the consumer's response, you'll need to use your own judgment here, but let's propose two common scenarios:

A.  Consumer is working with another real estate professional:

Have you talked to another agent about your real estate plans? 

If yes:  No problem.  What was the reason that you requested to speak to another agent?  Here, you will want to discuss why you are not permitted to speak with this client at the present time, but there is still an opportunity.  I am happy to help you, however I have to respect the rights of the agent you're already working with.  If for some reason your contract expires with that agent and you're in need of a new perspective, I would gladly assist you.

If no:  proceed to discuss what the client is looking for and attempt to setup a face to face meeting.

B.  Consumer wants a competitive market analysis:

No problem, I am happy to provide that to you.  In fact, I've already started pulling up some comparables.  Let me ask you a few more questions about the property, so I can make sure the information I'm sending you is useful.  Continue to lead the discussion with qualifying questions.

Great, (client name).  I think I have enough information from you to do a market analysis in the area you're interested in.  Can we meet on ________ to go over it?

Obviously, these scripts should be taken and made in to your own.  They need to sound like "you." 

In one of our future posts, we'll discuss voicemail.  Here are some questions for AR bloggers:

*Do you leave a voicemail on the first call?

*What are some key elements you have found to be effective in your first phone call to a potential client?

*How often do you speak to a consumer who is already working with another agent?  How often do you end up working with the client?

*What are some general best practices that you can share with other agents, specifically on initial phone contact?

I look forward to your feedback.
Feel free to reach out to me directly at rudd.lippincott@reply.com or 925-983-3427.

Rudd Lippincott
Director, Retail Operations
Reply! Inc.

Hannah Williams
HomeStarr Realty - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-820-3376

Sorry but they hacked into bank account,,will never use them..they told me it was a 30 day  trial...I canceled and they continued to take money out of my account without my permission...buyer beware

Jan 11, 2010 01:15 AM
Catherine Chaudemanche - Edison & Central NJ
Metuchen Keller Williams Elite Realty / Middlesex County, NJ - Edison, NJ
Full Time, Informed and Involved- Results Driven

Hi Rudd,

Thank you for your consistency. I have been following all your posts and one thing that keeps on coming back is the cancellation policy and agents stating that they keep on being charged and how difficult it is to stop the service.
Either or not it is accurate and either or not it is coming from your employees' human error or anything else is to some extent irrelevant. I think its something you should work very hard on improving (from your own processes and agent's perception).

Thank you again-

Jan 15, 2010 10:09 PM
Kathleen West
Trademark Realty Group of Palm Coast - Palm Coast, FL
Flagler County & Palm Coast Realtor

I've operated under a system similar to this and I have to say that I am not seeing the benefit to paying for 'online leads' compared to other investments.  It is always about quality versus quantity and many often miss this point.  Quality wins every time.  Online leads from outside services tend to not be very serious inquirers.  The conversion is often very low because there is simply some sort of offer to fulfill for gaining their information.  In comparison, offering something of value (i.e. product or service) online directly to visitors I have found to yield better results in the form of more serious inquiries and much higher conversion rates.  Therefore, I steer my financial resources in more beneficial areas. 

Quantity is not always a good thing and can actually cost you quite a bit.  If you are spending a large amount of time simply fulfilling requests that don't lead to actual appointments and contracts, you may be missing out on real business.  Plus you are tying up valuable financial resources which can be focused on more beneficial things.  

 

Jan 16, 2010 02:11 AM
Diane Osowiecki
Diane O and Friends - Benchmark Realty - Franklin, TN
Greater Nashville Real Estate

I believe I will pass.  The expense is why too rich for my blood.

Jan 16, 2010 02:24 AM
Greg Nino
RE/MAX Compass - Houston, TX
Houston, Texas

150 leads a month for under a hundred bucks? How is that "too expensive?" So you pay a $1,000 referral if you close something OVER 150k! Would you pay a referral fee of 25% if I sent you a $200,000 buyer? Sure you would! That equals = $1,500.00!! That's MORE than the $1,000.00. How in the hell is that not a good deal?

leads are leads. it doesn't matter who supplies them. What counts is the strategy that you either have or DON'T have as a Realtor. The majority of Realtors do not know how to effectively work online prospects. That's a fact. And always will be. It takes a ferocious appetite, super consistent efforts and hours each day. Plain and simple.

The harder you work, the "luckier" you'll get.

happy prospecting

Jan 16, 2010 04:04 AM
Reply.com Marketing
Reply.com - San Ramon, CA

Maybe it's time we all learn how to generate our own leads online...firms like this keep driving up our local PPC prices, and by subscribing to their services, you're handing them the keys to your local kingdom!  Third-party leads are intended to supplement, not replace your own markeing.  I've said this many times before, because I truly believe it.  If you can generate your own leads, great.  It's not hard to do, but it is hard to be good at it.  Either way, anyone can setup an AdWords campaign with Google and start generating traffic in about 5 minutes.  Anyway, here is something to consider; i live in Walnut Creek, CA.  When I go to Google and type in "Walnut Creek Real Estate Agent" there are 11 people buying that keyword, but only one of them is a lead generation company.  If lead generation co's completely went away, would click prices go down for everyone else?  Not in Walnut Creek...

IN Arizona you must be a licensed broker to get paid for leads.  We are in compliance with the regulations in AZ, and we are licensed.

Sorry but they hacked into bank account...  I will call you on Tuesday.  I'd like to find out what happened.  We don't hack in to people's bank accounts.

I have been following all your posts and one thing that keeps on coming back is the cancellation policy and agents stating that they keep on being charged and how difficult it is to stop the service.  Hello Cathy.  :)  In the Reply! Real Estate lead program (where agents pay $54.95 per lead) there is a 30 day cancellation policy.  That means when an agent cancels, they are obligated to remain on the program for another 30 days, during which time they will still receive leads.  The cancellation policy is stated in the agreement that every agent has to accept, and confirmed multiple times throughout the sales process, almost to the point of redundancy in my opinion.  THat being said, clearly there is something that we could be doing better, because there is still confusion.  I have found that the easiest way for me to find out what happened and how we can improve, is by calling the agents that express these concerns so I can hear it first hand and I will continue to do that.

To be clear, the RealtyNow (pay per sale model) does not have a 30 day cancellation period.  Here is what the contract says: 

Termination.  Either party may terminate this Agreement upon written notice of cancellation.  Except as indicated herein, all rights and obligations of the parties shall cease upon termination of this Agreement.

 

Rudd Lippincott

Director, Retail Operations

 

Jan 16, 2010 07:59 AM
William James Walton Sr.
WEICHERT, REALTORS® - Briotti Group - Waterbury, CT
Greater Waterbury Real Estate

I spoke with Andrew the other day, and I was pleasantly surprised at how things turned out.

I have no outstanding balance with Reply. That's a good thing.

Right now, I don't have room in my budget for the program, but when I do, I would definitely like to try them out again, and I was given the opprotunity to do so, no questions asked. That's a plus.

The $1000 advertising fee was explained in a way that actually made sense. If Reply is generating the leads and sending them to us, how are they getting people to register with them and how are they screening these leads so that they are not a waste of time when they are sold to us? Whatever they are doing, they are paying for it, and they have to recoup their expenses just as we do. Also, the fee is on an honor system - they don't deduct that money from us right away, we have to be honest and note in our closing statements(not the clients', but our brokerage statements) that a referral fee of $1000.00 is owed to Reply for those transactions over $150,000. If we don't, then we end up being charged per lead instead of the $99/month subscription fee.

It sounds fair enough to me.

Jan 16, 2010 09:11 AM
Janet Naisbitt-Bagley
ERA Realty Center - Cedar City, UT

I can't see the benefit of paying nearly a $100 a month up front for leads.  I am already getting leads from my on-line and other advertising.  I would be happy to pay 25% for a referral of a client that we actually close a sale for, however.  It sounds like this program will work for some.  Right?

Jan 16, 2010 12:43 PM
Sharon Harris
Keller Williams Keystone Realty - Hanover, PA
Realtor

$1,000... NO WAY . Somebody is making tons of money off this... Crazy I was maybe on the fence but I am not going to give away my commission to anyone .

Jan 19, 2010 10:06 PM
Anonymous
Anonymous

Gosh nothing but trouble with these guys. Long story but no no no

Jan 20, 2010 12:39 AM
#39
Kimberli Baker
Real Estate Mama - Phoenix, AZ

About 6 months ago, I signed on for Reply's pay-per-lead program.  After a month of leads that were utterly useless (aka, people being REALLY angry that they were being contacted by an agent, etc.), I called to complain and cancel.  I was assured by Reply that a good portion of their leads were legit, and they offered me some concessions to get me to not cancel, including a guarantee that if I didn't have at least one contract in escorw by a certain date, they would give me 6 months of free leads. 

Let me preface this by saying I've been in this business for 15 years.  I know what I'm doing, and I was extremely proactive with contacting the leads the minute they hit.  But, surprise, I was not able to convert one lead into even as much as a showing or a face-to-face meeting.  So, naturally, I did cancel after giving it an additional try.  For two additional months, I believe.  I spent a LOT of money on leads that did nothing but waste my time.

And guess what...  they didn't even give me the 6 months of free leads they promised me.

I have no problem with paying a referral fee, in fact I think it's probably the best system.  Anyone who TRULY believes that their leads (or at least a percentage thereof) are good, qualified prospects will work strictly on a referral fee basis, and won't ask for any upfront costs.

I don't usually complain in a public forum about another company, but this was a particulary costly, very bad experience for me, at a time when marketing dollars -- and time -- are so precious.  I got a call just last week from another Reply salesperson, who gave me the smarmy pitch that he had two specific clients that he wanted to refer to me.  Needless to say, that call didn't last long or end well...

And scripted calls?  Seriously?  Know what you want to conveny, use an outline even, but remember how often (always?) you hang up on the poor telemarketer reading from a script...  Sorry Rudd, but it sounds like you need to do some damage control and make some changes internally if our community is going to take you seriously.

Jan 20, 2010 12:56 AM
Michelle Fradella-Barfuss
Broker, Marketing Coach, Trainer - Red Rock Real Estate - Salt Lake City, UT
Author of "Top 10 Mistakes Agents Make When Market

I have NEVER had real transactions result from any of these "Lead Generation" type companies!  You want REAL leads, get active in your internet marketing, use keyword research, and be active in your online community!  Set yourself as an AUTHORITY in your marketplace, and have a system set up to capture and FOLLOW THROUGH with the leads that come to your site.

Jan 20, 2010 01:48 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Referral fee..sure...if it';s reasonable..set up, "my territory". monthy...not....

Jan 20, 2010 02:50 AM
Chuck Ward Local Video Marketing
Florida Mobile Fusion Mobile, Marketing, Local SEO - Tampa, FL
SMS Marketing, Google Plus Local Pages

What if a realtor could have this and more for

$1 per listing per month

More could equal

  1. Being an authority to your local clients
  2. Leads exclusive (national or local)
  3. Save 95% of marketing cost
  4. Auto Follow up (87% of people will use a realtor again, but 7% actaully do)
  5. Engage those people with spotty credit histories and get them into a home
  6. Win More Listings, Attract More Buyers, Sell More Homes, Earn More Money
Jan 20, 2010 03:21 AM
Chuck Ward Local Video Marketing
Florida Mobile Fusion Mobile, Marketing, Local SEO - Tampa, FL
SMS Marketing, Google Plus Local Pages

I just think that you are over priced in comparison with the current market

Jan 20, 2010 03:21 AM
Anonymous
Donna Hazelwood

The best way to generate business is the old fashioned way! Get out there and work it!

To put this in perspective, I was doing some car shopping on the Internet a couple of months ago, and I guess I filled out some form because all of a sudden I had people writing me emails and calling me like crazy trying to sell me a car...Really, it was annoying to receive so many calls,  and the whole thing sounded SUSPECT, not helpful and reassuring, and worst of all, I DID feel that my privacy was being invaded, even if I did fill out a form! When I am ready to buy a car, I will rely on past experience and word-of-mouth, not on some savvy sales person trying to 'guide me'. And think about it, a car is an investment that is worth A LOT LESS than a home...

 

Jan 20, 2010 03:56 AM
#45
Reply.com Marketing
Reply.com - San Ramon, CA

I know we will never reach a point where we get through to EVERY agent, but I thought it was worth sharing this post by Greg Nino, for the agents that remain skeptical on Reply!'s ability to help agents get more business. 

http://activerain.com/blogsview/1445180/reply-real-estate-leads-my-story-greg-nino-

Thank you, Greg, for sharing your experience. 

 

Rudd Lippincott

Director, Retail Operations

Jan 21, 2010 09:30 AM
Freddie Gonzales
WEM PACIFIC Investments, Inc. - Daly City, CA
CRS, GRI, RDCPro

Hi Rudy,

Tell me why I should sign up with you rather than homegain.com?

Jan 21, 2010 11:33 AM
Antoinette Scognamiglio, GRI, ASP
Coldwell Banker Realty - Mountain Lakes, NJ
There's no substitute for EXPERIENCE!

Reply! Real Estate called me in July and I foolishly signed on for no more than 5 LEADS at $54/lead.  Every lead they sent me was a dud.  Consumers are NOT AWARE that their information is being forwarded to an agent and most were indignant that anyone would be contacting them.

I read some negative reviews on them just after signing up and I should have closed my account IMMEDIATELY.  After taking 3 leads that went no where, the company withdrew $105 from my checking account (yes I realize the math is off but that's what they deducted).  I closed that account

I sent them notice on August 5 that I no longer wanted to be involved with their "system."  They continued to send me "leads."  Next I get an email telling me I owe them $397!!!!   I told them I closed my account however they state THEY REQUIRE 30 DAYS TO CLOSE AN ACCOUNT.  Where is this written in their "policy" which I never received in writing?  And, how does 5 leads x $54 per lead add up to $397, PLUS the $105 they already gleaned from my account.

Now I've received a collection letter from these crooks. 

Stay FAR AWAY from this company.  I'm now burdened with the task of having to deal with this situation, in addition to my already heavy workload and considerable family commitments. 

Their business practices are DECEPTIVE and it's a crime that we should be beset by not only challenging market conditions but thieves who conspire to rob us of our hard earned dollars. 

Oct 23, 2010 11:03 AM
Dan Spurlock
Solution Partners NW - Gig Harbor, WA

I tried this company. Was a total joke and they wouldnt refund bad leads like they said they would. I had to  dispute the charges on my credit card to get them off. The leads had no idea someone would call them and were so pissed when I did. fake phone numbers and emails. run people, run far away!

Apr 24, 2012 10:02 AM