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Tampa Mortgage Loans and Shark Bait

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Mortgage and Lending with VanDyk Mortgage

As a Tampa mortgage lender, I seem to be shaking my head in disbelief a great deal; not at the clients...at the Fannie's and Freddie's of the world!

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water, those telltale fins emerge from the depths ready to take down the unsuspecting home buyer. (Cue the shark music...)

We all know about how the underwriter-appraiser clashes can kill deals. But now, although underwriters can no longer just arbitrarily slash the value of an appraisal...which of course is good news; the bad news is that if an underwriter and an appraiser cannot come to an agreement on whatever the issue is then one of three things can be done:

  1. Contact the original appraiser to deal with the perceived deficiencies
  2. Acquire a field or desk review of the original appraisal
  3. Get a new appraisal

Well that's all well and good, but who's getting shaken down for that additional $375? That's right, the buyer. (Cue underwater shot of unsuspecting swimmer's legs...)

When is there going to be an edict that does not gouge the consumer? Why does it seem that every "change for the better" costs the borrower more? Is this any way to effect a recovery to the real estate market? When will there stop being more questions than answers? I need to know.

At the end of the day perhaps the FNMA's new ruling will prompt appraisers and underwriters to hug it out and just make it work realizing that options two and three are just going to be the messier options. I choose to believe that professionals will rise to the occasion and keep the bait out of the water.

Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Big Government is out to Save Us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*L*

Sep 15, 2010 01:27 AM
Nevin Williams
Fairway Independent Mortgage Corporation - Cary, NC
Senior Mortgage Advisor

Brian - Congrats on your feature! I don't think things will change for the benefit of the buyer because lenders don't care.

Thanks for writing a great post!

Sep 15, 2010 01:40 AM
Tim Fennell
The Legends of Real Estate, REALTORS® - Jacksonville, FL
Jacksonville Real Estate

"When will there stop being more questions than answers?" ........... I'd like to know too!  It seems that everwhere we turn, all we get are more questions, more problems, more 'bend over and grab your ankles'... but no answers or solutions. 

One things seems certain, though; what we've been doing for the past 4 years has not been working.  Something has got to give... soon!

Sep 15, 2010 02:15 AM
Shay Campbell
Universal American Mortgage Company - Raleigh, NC
Raleigh, NC

Brian,

My biggest issue for loans not closing is not credit nor income problems,  its appraisal issues.  Even if we get a new appraisal the underwriter may not accept it value.  Your article hit the nail squarely on the head.

Sep 15, 2010 02:36 AM
Paul McFadden
Responsive Pest Control - Seattle, WA
Pest Control, Seattle, WA.

Brian: In answer to when the madness will stop, I think it's going to be a few years. We may not return to normalcy for a while. In the meantime, we charge forward! That's all we can do. Take care and good luck!

Sep 15, 2010 02:48 AM
Bruce Swedal
Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate

Brian it is just crazy how hard regulations are making it for a home buyer to actually make a purchase. I recently had a case where the buyer got shaken down for a second appraisal. They ended up spending around $900 just on appraisals for the property. 

Sep 15, 2010 03:23 AM
Deborah "Dee Dee" Garvin
C2 Financial - San Diego, CA
C2 Financial

Brian, Perhaps it my wholesale side coming out...but I honestly don't think there is any benefit from throwing the underwriter under the bus.  Their job is on the line with every file they sign...and there is no sign of investors lightening their restrictions.  I do, however, believe the bigger issue is the fact that the independent appraisers (the cream of the crop) have been forced out of business and all we are left with are the AMC bottom rung appraisers (by and large).  I do know this:  Underwriters are not having any more fun than LO's or consumers.

Sep 15, 2010 03:49 AM
Paul Warkow
Paul Warkow-D.G. Weber Law Associates - Hauppauge, NY

I totally agree with Comment #7.  Instead of helping the consumer, HVCC has creating more problems including making it impossible for good and honest appraisers to stay in business.  As a result, this is what you get, including more expensive appraisals and often paying double.

Sep 15, 2010 06:08 AM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

As a former Tampa Bay resident - Are they still doing mortgages in Tampa? - lol

Sep 15, 2010 08:41 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Brian, I agree. There should be some way to resolve this issue without ordering another appraisal. Let's order another appraisal until we get one we like.

Sep 15, 2010 09:04 AM
Nona Swann
Swann & Associates Real Estate - Indialantic, FL
Serving the needs of the Sellers in Brevard County

HVCC is really pushing the more experienced appraisers away from doing the appraisals with AMC's.  I was talking to a very experienced appraiser that has worked in our area for over 25 years. He is getting paid 1/2 what he was making and asking for verifications of appraisals he did over 5 years ago.

We are all in this problem together and I feel the government should let the market correct its self. There has always been foreclosures and will continue to be.

When we lose experienced appraisers in an area they specialize in the homeowners lose. An out of area or an appraiser who is willing to accept a small fee may not be the best choice.

Oh well, we have to work with what the government throws our way.

 

Sep 15, 2010 09:59 AM
Brian P. Forrester
VanDyk Mortgage - Palm Harbor, FL

It seems like we are all singing from the same hymnal on this one.  I totally agree with the point that HVCC has driven out the most experienced appraisers and left us with the affordable inexperienced ones.  Not to mention I question the common sense (what's that?) of the appraisal management companies.  I had a appraiser come from Gainesville to appraise a home over 2.5 hours away in Clearwater.  How does that serve the customer?

@Deborah--I am not sure why you think I am throwing underwriters under the bus???

 

Sep 15, 2010 11:53 PM