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They Called Me, and Not Just Once

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Real Estate Agent with Ventana Fine Properties (480) 734-7277

Because there is so much talk about short sales I thought I would share the week I have had regarding short Short Sale Experiencesales. Two of my short sale listings right now are with Chase Bank. To say that I have heard grumblings about how their process works is a bit of an understatement, but being a brave sole I march right on with things. Go big or go home, as they say.

I have to go back a little so you can understand the magnitude of this week so bear with me for just a bit. One of these short sales I have had for about 3 months. In the beginning I got the bank all the paperwork, I called to make sure they had everything etc and low and behold I got 3 offers in the first 2 weeks, mind you all for about 1/2 of what the list price was. So I pressed on, I continued marketing the property, visiting the property to see how things looked and talked with the sellers to make adjustments along the way. Then out of the blue I get a phone call and guess who it is...my negotiator from Chase Bank, what? They called me, and not just once.

I tell that story for two reasons, one I have already mentioned (you know all the negative talk about short sales) and the other because anyone else in this business I have told that story to, can't believe it. Oh, it gets better...

My other short sale listing with Chase just got an offer, however it is so new Chase doesn't have all the paperwork in their system, so today I called to see how I could try to expedite things. This call did not go as I had planned but if I have learned anything from doing short sales it is flexibility. So I get all the needed information and begin to get everything to my client.

Now this is where it gets really good.

Within the next 20 minutes my phone rings, guess who? Chase Bank! They are calling me about the first short sale I told you about. The part of this that makes me the most happy is that the person on the other end of the phone is now my point person, and their responsibility is to gather all the documents, keep them, and get the WHOLE PACKAGE to the negotiator when the time is right. This person gave them their phone number and everything. I even tested him on fax numbers I had gotten from the previous person I spoke with at Chase and guess what? They were the same numbers!

You are probably saying to yourself, what is so amazing about this? See what has happened in the past with short sales is we (the agent) would send things in to the negotiator, they misplace it, lose it or something so we have to send it all again. Then phone numbers and fax numbers changed so when we thought we had the right fax number we were now sending everything to the wrong place. So to have someone that is working with me to gather all the documents to help speed the process along is well, great!

I know of other banks that are streamlining their processes as well, all good news. What does this mean? I believe this means that you will begin to see short sales take a much shorter time to process through the banks. They will become much less of a headache and easier to get done. That does not mean that at times it still won't be painful, but for those that can stick it out it will be worth it.

Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Boy, I hope so. Maybe the negotiators finally told someone they were overwhelmed with the volume of papers they demand. Not just sent once, but multiple times. Always wondered what the size of these files that have look like? 4-5 inches at least right?

Sep 18, 2010 08:40 AM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.
I was working with Can be hase on one deal and I was not impressed. Service nothing to write home about
Sep 18, 2010 08:40 AM
Richard Wilson
Cherry Creek Properties, LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Town or Country, in Colorado, we do it all.

I am doing a Chase short sale, with no second. Listed the property 7/14, scheduled to close 9/23.  We were to close 9/17 but the buyer's lender wasn't ready.  Amazing!

Sep 18, 2010 08:47 AM
Shawn Shackelton
Ventana Fine Properties (480) 734-7277 - Scottsdale, AZ

William, Don't thing they are all the way there yet but any imporvement is better than nothing.

Lyn, Me too, it makes the working relationship better for everyone! Smooth transactions will also detur buyers from walking becasue it is taking so long. 

Thanks for the comments!

Sep 18, 2010 08:47 AM
Shawn Shackelton
Ventana Fine Properties (480) 734-7277 - Scottsdale, AZ

Richard, glad it is all working out!

Sep 18, 2010 08:49 AM
Stephen Garner
Hub Media Company - Tempe, AZ
Hub Media Company
Short sale-the great OxyMoron. I wish these banks would streamline their process and make it easier for the sellers and agents. I give you guys kudos for sticking with it, I see so many cancel every week because the bank is unwilling to bend. Good for you.
Sep 18, 2010 10:57 AM
Kay Van Kampen
RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX - Springfield, MO
RealtorĀ®, Springfield Mo Real Estate

I've had several with Chase and they have changed their system of short sales.  I'm getting the same results as you are.  Short sales are great!

Sep 18, 2010 11:04 AM
Shawn Shackelton
Ventana Fine Properties (480) 734-7277 - Scottsdale, AZ

Stephen, Seems like the are really trying to streamline things. It has been a learning process for them just as much for us but the volume they have had to deal with is exponential in comparison. I see it getting better and am hopeful that it continues.

Kay, So glad I am not the only one having these experiences. We have to get through this stuff, and the sooner the better! 

Thanks

Sep 18, 2010 11:21 AM
Gina Chirico
Lattimer Realty - Fairfield, NJ
Real Estate Agent - Essex County, New Jersey

I've had my own personal dealings with Chase on our own mortgage.  Not a short sale but we had qualified for a loan modification a few years back and it was insane.  You talk to one person and everything is fine and then your phone rings from someone else who has no idea what you and the first guy agreed to and talked about.  Letters crossing in the mail and so forth.  It was a crazy thing but all is well now so I guess they finally did get their act(s) together over at Chase!!  Good luck with the short sales!

Sep 18, 2010 11:21 AM
Scott Baker
www.eHomeReports.com Coldwell Banker Realty - Liberty Township, OH
Realtor Homes for Sale Cincinnati/Dayton Ohio

I certainly hope Chase has changed. My last short sale with them, about 8 months ago was tough. REAL tough on my buyers. Best of Luck.

Sep 18, 2010 11:50 AM
Barbara Le Pine
ADVANTAGE REAL ESTATE, serving Lincoln County - Newport, OR
Your agent for the Central Oregon Coast!

I am on the buyers end of one now, listing agent said they had to resend docs a number of times. I see a pattern here. Thanks for the informative post!

Sep 18, 2010 01:17 PM
Lorraine or Loretta Kratz
Crescent Moon Realty, Inc. & Land N Sea Auctions. - San Marcos, CA
Certified Negotiation Consultants

You most definitely had a very interesting week. Short sales can be so unpredictable.

Sep 18, 2010 01:31 PM
Sheila Rasak
Keller Williams Realty-California Coast Property Group - Camarillo, CA

Bottom line, streamlined or not, the short sale is only as good as your negotiator. It's like everything else in this wacky business, we've got good and bad and some who just don't know their elbow from their knees.

I've had success with Chase. My favorite way to package is to overnight to their SS dept. and then follow up in a week to see if they've uploaded all 90+ pages.

By the way, my Chase negotiator OFFERED the $3,000 moving assistance to my short sale owners. You might want to look into that if they've neglected yours.

Sep 18, 2010 01:47 PM
Ray Saenz
Pending - Laredo, TX

it sems that short sales are becoming much better to deal with than before,, hope that BOA it's working much better these days.

Sep 18, 2010 05:31 PM
Julie Baldino
Front Door Realty - Vancouver, WA
Opening Doors to New Chapters...

Exact same thing happened to me with a few of my Chase shorts lately! The best part is that you initial point of  contact, is now capable of handling the negotiations for the first and second lien (if they are both Chase loans)! IMHO, they are great to deal with.

Sep 18, 2010 07:48 PM
David James
ReMax Real Estate Services Columbia South Carolina - Columbia, SC

I usually plan on having to send paperwork to banks at least 3 times.

Sep 18, 2010 10:45 PM
Shawn Shackelton
Ventana Fine Properties (480) 734-7277 - Scottsdale, AZ

Gina, So glad that you were able to get your situation figured out!

Scott, It is so important to let the buyers know this process might make you feel like you want to poke yourself with a sharp stick in the eye! But I have found that as long as they are communicated with it can ease the stress. It's just a tough deal all around, but seems like it is getting better.

Barbara, Yea, as I said above I feel it's a situation that buyers agents have to over commuicate but you, as the buyers agent, can only do that if the selling agent talks to you and I have had that problem too. It does require a lot of work, but if we talk to our clients it can work out. Good luck.

Lorraine & Loretta, crazy huh??

Shela, Thanks for the comments you are right! The "document collector guy" I talked to actually did talk to me about HAFA & I was surprised. The last time I asked my negotiatior about it he said, "I can't even talk about HAFA". I had to take a deep breath on that one!

Ray, Seems like bank are doing what they can, we can only hope they all get a system we can all work in. Thanks.

Julie, having a point of contact is so important. Glad you are having sucess with them.

David, I hope this helps with having to resend all these documents, because it's a lot to re-send. Thanks.

Sep 19, 2010 04:51 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Shawn - I hope that you are right and that we'll start to see short sales get more organized and take less time.

Sep 19, 2010 05:25 PM
Shawn Shackelton
Ventana Fine Properties (480) 734-7277 - Scottsdale, AZ

Christine, Me too, seems it would make all our lives much easier!

Thanks

Sep 20, 2010 09:57 AM