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Recirculation

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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

One of the biggest complaints I hear from homeowners is regarding the lack of comfort in their homes, specifically with heating and cold drafts. I receive several calls a week regarding these issues. The reason people contact me is not because I'm a Connecticut home inspector, but because I'm a certified energy auditor and infrared thermographer. Often homeowners have been suffering with these problems for years without resolution in spite of having numerous professionals examine the house.

Some of these calls come from owners of newer homes. Now it might be hard to believe that a home only a few years old could have heating and energy related problems or even be drafty. Yet I find these problems to exist quite often when evaluating newer homes.

During a recent evaluation of a large high end home that is less than two years old here in Connecticut, I discovered what I would consider an inexcusable installation.

The one on the left doesn't belongOne of the homeowners complaints was the mud room area was colder than the rest of the house. She had the heating contractor out several times to look at this and some other issues. She was told that basically everything is working fine...and I'm certain that is true to a point.

What he failed to mention, because I don't believe he didn't know, was that the return duct had not been ideally located in the mud room. The room has two entrances, one directly from the exterior and one from the garage. The HVAC installer placed a supply duct near each door, so far so good. He also installed a return duct along the outside wall in between these two supplies. In fact it is barely a foot away from the door to the exterior.

What is happening is some of the warm supply air is being sucked right back down the return duct back to the furnace. When I surveyed the room and the basement below, there were other, more ideal locations that could be used for the return duct.

The heating contractor had gone after the easy fixes failing to acknowledge the mistake with the return duct placement. Moving the duct will involve cutting a new hole in the floor and repairing the old hole besides actually installing the duct. This will in all likelihood involve a flooring contractor as well to fix the floor. This makes this a bit difficult and a somewhat costly fix for the heating contractor.

So you can see why this obvious issue was ignored in the hopes ignorance would solve the problem of recirculation.

 

 

 

James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
2010 - 2011 SNEC-ASHI President
NRSB #8SS0022
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

 ASHI Certified Inspector

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Timothy Mattingly
Louisville Homes Team Louisville KY louisvillehomesreport.com - Louisville, KY
Louisville Homes for Sale

James-Good catch.  Duct location can cause some real issues and most people over look them.

Mar 02, 2011 12:47 AM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

James, I see this far too often myself. Workmen take short cuts and improperly balance or don't balance the system. This is one of the #1 complaints in my area too...

Mar 02, 2011 12:49 AM
Jim Allhiser
Perfection Inspection, Inc. - Salem, OR
Salem, Oregon Home Inspector

SYSTEM BALANCING!!!    Geeze, do any resisdential heating contractors actually do it??

Nice work James.

Mar 02, 2011 12:51 AM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

Jay makes an OBlique reference to the same issue in his blog. Is it duct day?

Mar 02, 2011 01:05 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Is ignorance ever the solution to a problem?!

Before I started finishing my basement, I had an HVAC company come and put in more registers and returns.  They located the registers where I wanted but the return duct in the ceiling right over a window and beside the register!  Um....

Yes, they came and moved it where I wanted.

Mar 02, 2011 01:09 AM
Joe Kenny
Realty Executive Midwest - Darien, IL
Better Than Your Average Joe

I sold a home a few years ago where the ducts were snaked throughout the walls and because of all of the bends the cold air from the ac unit never reached the second floor.  Because this home was sold in the winter this was never discovered.

Mar 02, 2011 01:26 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Sometimes the "thinking part" gets left out of the equation

Mar 02, 2011 03:13 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

James,

Funny how just a little planning would have gone a long way in performance.

Mar 02, 2011 04:29 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Robert - we were apparently composing our blogs at the same time!

It's ugly ductling day!

Mar 02, 2011 06:39 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr James,

It was cold last week and, like you, I had some circulation problems too.

Nutsy

Mar 02, 2011 03:55 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Timothy, In my experience duct location is often the cause of many comfort problems.

Michael, I certain it's a universal problem.

Jim, Don't seem like it.

Robert, Hadn't seen Jay's post. I guess it is duct day.

Jay, Do you get the impression the HVAC guys put returns where it's convenient, not where they will work?

Joe, That's the problem with A/C separate from the heat. No way to test it in the winter.

Charlie, Or it may be I don't give a s**t, it ain't my house.

Donald, At least a little thought.

Jay, Yep.

Nutsy, When will your circulation cease?

Mar 02, 2011 11:05 PM
Dale Ganfield
Leland, NC

Hi James, supply to return short circuits happen a lot, system balancing or lack of dampers to properly balance is another serious issue.

Mar 03, 2011 06:45 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Dale, Yes they do.

Mar 05, 2011 12:38 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

That seems like a pretty dumb mistake for an HVAC contractor.  Putting returns on the inside walls is just basic stuff... or so I thought.

Mar 07, 2011 02:01 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Reuben, When they bother to put them in at all. I have, as I'm sure you have too, found newer homes missing returns.

Mar 08, 2011 01:08 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

Honestly, I've never found a new home missing returns.  Unbelievable.

Mar 09, 2011 01:14 PM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

 Hi Jim. Some 50's era installations relied on air flow to other rooms, including down the stairs as the 'designed' return flow route. Doors were expected to be open by default, or were undercut to increase air flow. This had been accepted as 'economical' installations. So you won't see return ducts where you expect them.

Reuben, some builders had ducting framed in the internal wall cavities and only used sheet metal above ceilings and in basements. Many times this was installed by the general contractor and the furnace was put in by a supplier. No HVAC contractor or recognized professional would have been involved.

Wall cavities are still used for this purpose in new builds today.

Mar 10, 2011 02:25 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Reuben, I once inspected a house without a single return on the first floor and only one on the second.

Robert, Yes I am aware of the old type of installations and the thought process involved in these installation. When performing energy audits in home's from that era, I discuss reconfiguring the ducts for better efficiency.

Mar 11, 2011 12:33 AM