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A babbling brook! What more could you ask for?

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Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

 

The post previous to this one talked about an abused house with a couple of barely functional bathrooms.  I said the story would continue regarding where the water from the bathrooms was actually going. 

So here goes.

While the vast majority of the water was still going down the drains, some of the water was leaking into the crawl space due to the condition of the shower walls and leaking at other undetermined locations. 

Water was clearly running into the crawl space and had been doing so for quite some time as evidenced in the following picture of the area immediately under the tub/shower.

Flooding in the crawl space 

Here is the picture of that shower if you were fortunate enough to have forgotten it.

Shower in poor condition 

Unfortunately this was but the tip of the iceberg regarding the water issues in the crawl space.  There was considerable evidence that the crawl space had been flooding with at least 15 inches of water seasonally---and has likely been doing so for the last 50 years.  The “quality” of the staining on the walls, the degree of rot in the majority of support posts, the fact that ALL of the form ties were completely rotted away, and the presently saturated ground condition throughout the crawl space---at the driest time of the year, were all testament to a very long standing water intrusion issue.  Here is a picture of the obvious high-water line on the foundation and support post.

High water line in crawl space 

The fact that the entire space was not infested with Anobiid Beetles was remarkable---but perhaps it was too wet for them.  The wood frame of the access door was in fact riddled with Anobiid Beetles---with very recent kick-out of frass present.

Anobiid Beetle Emergence Holes and frass 

To complicate repairs to this situation is the presence of a very cute little brook (a listing perk no doubt) running across the back of the property---less than 30 feet from the house. 

the babbling brook

This stream, as near as I could tell, appears to be higher than the floor of the crawl space, thereby eliminating any possibility of draining the space by gravity.  A sump pump system will likely be necessary---and has been necessary for a very long time.

I think a logical question to ask is: why was anyone allowed to build a house with a crawl space on this site in the first place?  Part of the answer is that when the home was built there were likely no regulations that would have prevented it.

….and now I am babbling----just like the brook.

 

 

By Charles Buell, Real Estate Inspections in Seattle

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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

This post has a similar theme to my last post. Some times houses get built in the best and the worst location. 

Aug 19, 2012 10:28 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

I am thinking that any buyer would run away from this house.  It is amazing that this was allowed to happen year after year and no one noticed...or did anything about it.

 

Aug 19, 2012 10:37 PM
Richard Burge Realty/ Burge Homes
Richard Burge Realty/Burge Homes - Conway, SC
Broker in Charge/Owner

Nasty bathroom and crawl space.

I worked for the health dept. years ago and I have seen septic systems overflows going directly into small ditches and streams.   Sometimes it was very apparent if the property owners were washing cloths and the soap bubbles showing up in the streams.

Aug 19, 2012 10:40 PM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

WOW . ..this house needs a staging intervention. . .I can't see why some people would let houses get this bad. .

Aug 19, 2012 10:42 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jim, for sure---it seems as though we are using more and more marginal lands now too.

Kathryn, in this case you would be correct :)

Richard, we are fortunate around here to not see very many septic systems

Fernando, I am not sure staging will help much with this one :)

Aug 19, 2012 10:54 PM
Kristin Johnston - REALTOR®
RE/MAX Platinum - Waukesha, WI
Giving Back With Each Home Sold!

Charles, I sure do remember that disgusting tub photo, ewww.. now it is back in my head again, thanks LOL...how can one live like that???

Aug 19, 2012 11:21 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Charlie, It really is amazing that you di not have more Anobiid action in that one. You are probably right it was just too wet.

Aug 20, 2012 09:39 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I kind of like it when you babble.  This place is a disaster.  One of those posts is almost missing the concrete base!  Gotta like the annual flooding.  Flooding benefits the Nile basin, so why not here?

Aug 20, 2012 09:50 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Kristin, if you want to feel better about this bathroom go and see the one on Clint Mackie's post :)

Don, yes----just too wet.  The access opening jamb was at about 18% while the overall levels in the crawl space were above 21%

Jay, this particular flooding likely isn't benefiting anyone---well the rats have a source of water I suppose :)

Aug 20, 2012 09:57 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Charles -- even with a sump pump -- where do you send the water, can't send it to the brook, as it will just end up coming back to the crawl space through the ground (I would think).   Serious problem here.

Aug 21, 2012 03:19 AM
John & Irma Nelson
San Antonio Real Estate Broker/Agent with Get It Sold Realty - San Antonio, TX
San Antonio Real Estate Agents - San Antonio Homes

babbling brook!  Yikes!  I can't wait to take a dip in the ...oh wait that isn't a creek!!  That bathroom needs some serious work!  Great post!!!

Sep 02, 2012 12:23 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Steven, exactly---the problem just goes around and around and around

John & Irma, thanks---it do indeed :)

Sep 02, 2012 01:23 AM