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Condo Ownership - what do you need to consider when buying a Pasadena condo or townhome

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Pasadena Views Real Estate Team, Inc. BRE# 000872112

I was just answering a question that Alex posed on Trulia about the total cost of condo ownership and thought I'd share some additional information and thoughts on the subject with you.

There are a few things that you should consider if you are thinking of buying a condo:

1750 Palisades DriveMaintenance:  the nice thing about owning a condo or townhome in Pasadena or surrounding cities is that the Home Owner's Association takes care of most of the maintenance to the structure of the building.  The rule of thumb is that if a repair is needed to the outside of your condo, common walls and balconies, the Home Owner's Association will take care of it.  If the repair is needed inside your unit, it is your responsibility.

It certainly takes away from having to worry about a lot of repairs that most home owners are faced with like roof, water intrusion, etc.

You are limited though in what can be done to the outside of your property by the rules of the association.  So, if you're thinking of doing something creative like changing a door or the type of windows that you have, you will need the review and permission of the association's board first.

Rules & Regulations/CC&Rs:  mostly all condos and townhomes are governed by CC&Rs (Covenants, Conditions & Regulations) that have been created by the original developer of the complex and possibly modified by the board of directors over the years.  There is also a separate document for Rules & Regulations listing additional items to consider.

It is very important that you read both documents thoroughly prior  to purchasing your condo or townhome to ensure that you are comfortable with the association's pet policy, quiet hours, move in/move out process, etc.

Financial Documents/Meeting Minutes:  please review the balance sheets and budget of the association to ensure that it is in good financial shape.  You want to see a healthy amount of reserves for unanticipated repairs and for needed replacement items down the road.  If there are no reserves or the reserves are limited, you might face a special assessment.  Special assessments can be levied and add to the cost of ownership if the association is unable to pay for needed expenses.

I also recommend that you review a full 12 months worth of meeting minutes.  This will give you a pretty good idea of the issues that have been encountered in the past and what is anticipated for the future.

Insurance:  most associations have structural insurance and in and around Pasadena most carry earthquake insurance.  Your Realtor will ask for the insurance certificate to see the limits and the type of coverage for a particular condo complex.  I always suggest buying additional insurance coverage for the interior of your condo or townhome.  This policy will cover your furniture, jewelry and liability.  Most insurance carriers will provide them and they are not overly expensive.

COSTS OF OWNING A CONDO/TOWNHOME:

On top of the regular expenses like your mortgage, taxes (usually run about 1.2% of selling price in Pasadena),insurance and utilities, you will have to pay Home Owner Association (HOA)Dues. 

HOA dues are monthly fees that support the maintenance of the outside of the complex, gardening, pool & spa and other amenities, structure insurance, water (yeah!  most condo/townhome owners do NOT need to pay for water), and common area electrical and gas.

So... if you are thinking of buying a condo or townhome, make sure to add the HOA dues, set aside some funds for a possible unexpected special assessment and include funds for an interior insurance policy.

Lynda Eisenmann
Preferred Home Brokers - Brea, CA
Broker Associate ,CRS,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA, Orange Co

Hi Irina,

Good info on this post for future home buyers. There are always so many questions when it comes to associations.

Jan 16, 2008 10:04 AM
Cyndee Haydon
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
727-710-8035 Clearwater, Beach Short Sales Luxury Condos &Homes
Irina - what an excellent article - I get those questions all the time and this is such helpful info - well done!   
Jan 16, 2008 12:38 PM
Irina Netchaev
Pasadena Views Real Estate Team, Inc. - Pasadena, CA
Pasadena CA Real Estate

Lynda, thanks so much!!!

Cyndee, thanks for the compliment!

 

Jan 16, 2008 12:49 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Excellent article, Irina. I always tell buyers to also watch out for special assessments that may be in the works (they might be noted in the minutes but not yet approved) and which can add big bucks potentially, at least in the short term. Those HOA fees aren't tax deductible either, at least for owners who are living in the home (as far as I know).

Jeff 

Jan 16, 2008 01:33 PM
Steve Shatsky
Dallas, TX

Irina, GREAT post!

Whenever I sell a condo, in addition to the key things you mention, I always engage my home buyers in a good conversation about what it means to live in a communal style.  The Rules and Regulations cover more than things like where you can and cannot park or window coverings these days.  They now often cover items regarding how you can live in your home.  Many condos have rules regarding things such as using high powered stereo or home theater systems that may disturb neighbors, late night parties, and some I have seen even go as far as to regulate what hours you can vacuum your floors or run dishwashers or clothes washers so that neighbors are not disturbed.  I would hate to sell someone a condo that becomes a headache for my buyer when they find out AFTER closing that they can not live the way they had hoped to.

 

Jan 16, 2008 01:34 PM
Irina Netchaev
Pasadena Views Real Estate Team, Inc. - Pasadena, CA
Pasadena CA Real Estate

Jeff, an excellent point about HOA fees not being tax deductible.  Definitely something to consider prior to purchasing a condo.

Steve, I fully agree.  Not everyone is ready for condo living and some associations' rules are extremely strict.  Buyers should read CC&Rs and Rules & Regs very carefully.  The documents can be long and tedious, but certainly can affect your life style and happiness.  Thank you for such a thorough and thoughtful comment!

Jan 16, 2008 03:40 PM
Gary Bolen
McCall Realty - South Lake Tahoe, CA
CRS - Lake Tahoe Real Estate Information

Cool Irina. We had a friend call yesterday from Pasadena and thought of you. Hope you are knocking 'em out.

best 

Jan 18, 2008 02:49 PM
Thesa Chambers
West + Main - Bend, OR
Principal Broker - Licensed in Oregon
This is perfect - Localism at it's best - but you need to add it to your state and your city for it to be seen on www.localism.com - great job
Jan 21, 2008 07:40 AM
Diane Aurit
LKN Realty, LLC - Mooresville, NC
Lake Norman Real Estate
Good summary for all buyers in the Pasadena area and beyond!
Jan 23, 2008 11:25 PM