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No More Side-Stepping the Issue of Sidewalk Repair

By
Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams
The City's Attempts at Pushing Repairs onto Future Home Sellers



Do you think the best way to deal with a community’s broken sidewalks is to have homeowners pay for sidewalk repair when they sell their home? I am a homeowner and a Realtor in Chatsworth in the San Fernando Valley, and I am very concerned about the city trying to shift this problem to home sellers. This piecemeal approach to sidewalk repair through a point-of-sale requirement, though, has recently been proposed by a task force convened by the Bureau of Street Services at the behest of the Los Angeles City Council.

A point-of-sale approach is misguided primarily because it is not a comprehensive method of eliminating threats to public safety—it is piecemeal and arbitrary. Suppose you sell your house and your sidewalk is broken, but your neighbor’s sidewalk is significantly worse. You would have to pay potentially thousands of dollars to repair your sidewalk while steps away the problem is even more severe; the adjoining broken sidewalk would not necessarily be repaired until the current homeowner decided to sell. It makes no sense to require one property owner who is selling to fix a moderately damaged sidewalk while risks to public safety on either side with dangerous cracked, uplifted, and broken sidewalks would remain unrepaired.

Realtors are urging the City of Los Angeles to think of a better plan. City officials acknowledge that at the current pace, it will take 83 years to repair already broken sidewalks. In the interest of public safety and livable neighborhoods, the city needs to devise a better plan.



Picture from RubberSideWalks Inc.


In Santa Monica, for instance, they have been repairing broken sidewalks with rubber ones made of recycled tires! The rubber gives instead of buckling and cracking, and the panels are permeable by moisture so the try roots do not need to push up in search of water. Our Westside neighbor, Santa Monica, is pioneering this new idea (as explained in this USA Today article). My San Fernando Valley Government Affairs committee is looking for new and innovative ideas…and I am sure there are some out there on Active Rain. Please let me know!

If you would like more information or have any great ideas, please be sure to comment below. I am on the Government Affairs Committee for the Southland Regional Association of Realtors, and I will relay your concerns and ideas.

If you know of anyone looking for a Realtor that is up-to-date and actively involved in issues affecting the San Fernando Valley, from Chatsworth and the 118 corridor to Sherman Oaks and the prime studio corridor, I would love to help. I can be reached at Harley@KW.com.

Derek and Mariana Wagner
The Artisan Group- Keller Williams Premier Realty - Colorado Springs, CO
The Artisan Group - Colorado Springs REALTORS®

Welcome to Active Rain! That before and after shot is amazing ...

Feb 07, 2008 12:29 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life
Harley - Welcome aboard my dear!  I agree with Mariana, the before and after shot is unreal.   This is an interesting topic and I also tend to agree with you.  I would like to know exactly where are all the tax dollars that homeowner's pay in all this?  I also like Jeff Kessler's idea above, outside the box and a win-win for everybody in my opinion.
Feb 07, 2008 01:05 AM
Ralph Odierna
Keller Williams Realty - Northridge, CA
Harley, awesome post...some people don't realize that in California Realtors have become the toilet police, the water heater police, the smoke alarm police, and now the sidewalk police....good job pointing out how the city abdicates there responsibilities to sellers and Realtors
Feb 07, 2008 02:42 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Welcome Harley!  That was a wonderful first post! If all counties and such utilized the money they have set aside for the appropriate repairs then we wouldn't need to police areas....then againf..they're too busy filling up potholes after a rain seems to be a continuous cycle....how are they able to get to sidewalks?

Feb 07, 2008 04:52 AM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate
Tracey and Ralph--thank you both for introducing me to AR...I'm learning so much and I'm having a great time in this intellectually generous community!
Feb 07, 2008 03:23 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate
Mariana and Jason--thank you for the hearty welcome!  I'm glad to know the photos have impact.  Our Governmental Affairs committee is gathering photos of seriously damaged sidewalks to present to the City Council and one of them looked like waves and waves of a concrete ocean.   A picture is worth a thousand words.  I don't know if our tactic will be to push for rubber sidewalks (an expense issue) so we might not show the After versions.
Feb 07, 2008 03:27 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate
John--thanks for the KW welcome!  Got a chuckle out of your dog comment...I had to shoot a photo of him for my newsletter (my kids are too big to be cute any more!), so I killed to birds with one stone.  We have sidewalks in far worse shape, so this photo won't make it to the City Council.  Your point about the city having responsibility on the grounds they poured the sidewalk and planted the trees is great--thanks! 
Feb 07, 2008 03:33 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate

William--I appreciate your kind words and thoughtful comments!  Our Board's Governmental Affairs committee jumped on this one pretty quickly, so I hope we'll stop it dead in its tracks.  We are considering it a public safety issue and contending that it makes no sense to, in essence, prioritize the repairs by which property sells first.  If something needs to be fixed, it needs to be fixed and the government should do its job.  Where will the funds come from--there's the rub!  Sally--you're right that there should be money earmarked for maintenance and upkeep...we're in a deficit in CA and it sounds like Hawaii is treading water with infrastructure upkeep as well.  Thanks for your comment and the warm welcome!

Feb 07, 2008 03:51 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate
Ricardo--Thanks for the welcome.  You said it well--"real estate isn't just about putting a contract together": we're really advocates for the both property owners and the general public in this case.  I just read your FICO score posting, and I can see that you've got the same committment! 
Feb 07, 2008 04:01 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate
Irina--your welcome is appreciated!  I will pass along what happened in Pasadena...our Board might send somebody Pasadena to get some good pictures of what happens when one home is forced to repair the sidewalk when the adjacent sidewalk is even worse.  Thanks for the info!
Feb 07, 2008 04:05 PM
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL

Hi Harley...

I am not sure why but I was expecting you to be a guy. Tricky name you have there and I like it :)

Anyway...I agree that shifting the problem over to home seller's is not the way forward. That's a terrible idea and makes no sense to me. 

As far as the rubber sidewalks go...I find myself wondering if when they are walked on perhaps you bounce a bit :)

P.S. You'll get used my nonsense. Every one does :)  

TLW...ROAR!

Feb 10, 2008 06:20 AM
Jennifer Steck
Rocky Mountain Homescapes, Keller Williams, Denver Colorado - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate
Harley, I love the idea of rubber sidewalks. I'll have to check and see what is going on here in Denver. I know we have crumbling concrete issues too, but the city is usually pretty good about repairing things. With the housing market in its current slump, adding more costs to sellers will just result in more people walking away. Great job and welcome aboard!
Feb 10, 2008 06:59 AM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate

TLW--Ha, I just got what TLW stands for...sometimes things just don't make sense to me until after 11pm!  As for the Roar, I guess I will have to read your older posts to see if I can figure that one out ;)  Thanks for stopping by.  Cheers, Harley

 Jennifer--You're right about the city's plan possibly being a tipping point for some people...the market is tough enough, I'm not looking forward to showing potential sellers THAT net sheet!  Thanks for the welcome.  Cheers, Harley

Feb 10, 2008 05:32 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!
Harley- Thank you for bringing this message to the forefront. The city should not put this on the home sellers. They pay taxes and the taxes should go for the repairs. I love the idea of the recycled tires. That would give the walkers a better give under their feet too! Great idea! Great post. Welcome to Active Rain. Katerina
Feb 14, 2008 02:48 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate

Katerina--Thanks for stopping by and for the friendly welcome!

Feb 19, 2008 01:31 AM
Sondra Meyer:
EXP Realty, LLC - Corpus Christi, TX
See It. Experience It. Live It.

Harely, that is actually an interesting problem that you've got.  I kind of always envisioned that with the high property values in CA that the side walks and streets would be in good shape.  Guess, I was wrong.    Fortunately, our city hasn't been plagued with that sort of problem - yet.  Based on the pictures, those sidewalks are certainly safety hazards. 

From reading other people's comments, I see you must be new to AR.  WELCOME!!!!!!!!!

Feb 25, 2008 01:08 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate
Sondra--Thanks for the welcome.  High property values means high property taxes....but apparently it doesn't mean good infrastructure!  Cheers, Harley
Feb 27, 2008 03:25 AM
Todd Clark - Retired
eXp Realty LLC - Tigard, OR
Principle Broker Oregon

This is a great idea, but who is going to pay for it still should be the big question. Maybe have new development in neighborhoods pitch in when they require a permit, that is what they do here with some of the city parks.

Mar 03, 2008 04:57 PM
Harley Ramsey
Keller Williams - Chatsworth, CA
Chatsworth, CA Real Estate
Hi Todd,   You're right that we (Realtors and citizens were talking with) need to focus on who pays...loud and clear, it needs to be the city.  We're not even going to go down the road of rubber sidewalks because they are somewhat more expensive even if they have long-term savings...we don't want to muddy the waters.  I was just hoping to gain some out of the box ideas because you never know what's out there.  The City Council postponed voting on the issue for 60 days, so eventually I'll have an update and I hope it will be good news.  Cheers, Harley
Mar 03, 2008 05:35 PM
Mark Organek
And the United States of America - Mesa, AZ
It's not a game, it's your life.

Tricky subject.  Although the neighbor's sidewalk may be worse, at least one part is up to date.  Furthermore, piece mail repair in neighborhoods would incentivize other neighbors to repair the sidewalk in front of their house rather than suffer ridicule.

By the way, you relly did an awesome job on the HGTV bit.  Especially with your trial closes.  It truly showed that you cared about your client's interests in the property.  Sales skills do more to show interest and care in customers instead of the normal submissive doormat approach.  You did great!

Mar 13, 2008 10:32 PM