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Do You Like Your Fireplace Flues To Be Creamy Or Chunky?

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

It's a question that needs to be answered - do you like your fireplace flues to be creamy or chunky?

Well, you know the difference.  One has no crunch and the other does.

So, understanding the difference, looking up into this fireplace flue, which is it?

Creamy or chunky?

Let's think.

The chunky stuff is composed of soot and creosote.

Soot and creosote are a buildup of gases and "stuff" from wood that isn't heated up enough to exit the flue.

Instead it accumulates.

As it accumulates it gets thicker.

The fire department recommends that chimney flues be swept of such buildup when it accumulates to about 1/8" in thickness.  Also, once cleaned, the flue can be inspected for other issues - movement and cracking and so forth.

At 1/4" thickness it is potentially flammable, and the cause of chimney fires.  At that thickness you often smell carbon as well - burned toast more or less.

Oh, the harder the wood the hotter the temperature, so the slower the accumulation of buildup.

Pine, 2x4s, those cutsie little fire logs do not burn so hot, and so they contribute soot and creosote more quickly.  And, I'm told, buildup of critical mass can be reached in as few as 10 or 12 fires!  Harder woods not so quickly. 

NEVER BURN PRESSURE-TREATED WOOD TO GET RID OF IT.  IT CONTAINS DANGEROUSLY POISONOUS CHEMICALS.  THROW IT AWAY INSTEAD.

AND, be sure to burn good, dried hardwood!  That is defined as wood stored under cover for a year, and stacked in a crisscross pattern so it dries well.

A cord of wood is defined as 4'x4'x8' (think solid geometry).  And it should be stacked in a side-by-side pattern.  If the guys with the pick-up truck selling "dried" hardwood in your neighborhood want to stack it crisscross it is NOT a cord!  And it's probably not dried either...

But, BUT!, pay attention to the thickness of any buildup in your flue!  Chimney fires are NEVER a good thing.  Have it swept professionally.  Regular inspections and cleaning are a Best Practice!  There are things advertised that you can throw in the fire, said to eliminate the buildup as they burn.  But, sweeping is the recommended way to go.  Ask your Fire Marshall.

My recommendation:  yes, it requires that you peek your head in, preferably with a big-boy flashlight, and look up and see what soot and creosote accumulation you have.  Your flue will appreciate your diligence.  You want creamy, not chunky.  FYI, should I show up for lunch - I happen to like the extra-chunky peanut butter on my sandwiches.  It's more fun to eat!  Oh, and jam, not jelly.

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(50)

Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

We have a gas fireplace too David.  I like clicking the remote...

Jan 03, 2014 09:44 AM
Peter Pfann @ eXp Realty Pfanntastic Properties in Victoria, Since 1986.
eXp Realty, Victoria BC www.pfanntastic.com - Victoria, BC
Talk To or Text Peter 250-213-9490

Hi Jay,

One more reason to not burn wood, aside from the smell, the work and the low efficiency for the typical fireplace.

Have a Great Week and a Pfanntastic 2014

Jan 03, 2014 10:02 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I think burning old tax files would be more fun Peter.  But that's just me.

Jan 03, 2014 10:46 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Cords are burning everywhere in this frigid season we call winter in Wisconsin...cleaning chimneys will be a priority !

Jan 03, 2014 06:38 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

'Tis the season to be sweeping, S&D, fa la la la la ... la la la la.

Jan 03, 2014 07:29 PM
James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

I guess it is a good thing I have never (to the best of my memory) have lived in a place which had a fireplace. 

Jan 03, 2014 07:50 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

They are fine, James, if you keep them clean!

Jan 03, 2014 08:25 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

The air is not heavy, its cold and dense. As the temp in the flue becomes less than the house temp, the house  becomes a better draft, the cold air then comes down the chimney. None the less, the pressure will equalize to some degree (you can only push so much air into a bottle).

Jan 03, 2014 10:33 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Isn't denser heavier?  Isn't dense (heavy) air the basis for weather and air movement?

http://www.weatherdudes.com/facts_display.php?fact_id=51

As a Boy Scout I have felt hot air come WAY down and into caves, seeking the colder, denser stuff inside.  But it can only go so far, as you suggest.

Jan 03, 2014 11:13 PM
Bill and MaryAnn Wagner
Wagner Real Estate Group - Ocean City, NJ
Jersey Shore and South Jersey Real Estate

Great advice and thorough explanation. Never heard it described that way before.

Jan 03, 2014 11:56 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Warm air is generally more buoyant, less dense, not necessarily heavier relatively speaking. As the air warms the molecules spread apart. That is why warm air holds more moisture even at the same RH as colder air. Pressure also has a great deal of effect on air movement. Think of the stack effect in houses. 

Jan 04, 2014 12:52 AM
Michael Delaware
North Sky Realty LLC - Battle Creek, MI
REALTOR®, CRS, GRI

Good advice on chimneys.  It is an item that so many people forget needs to be inspected every so often.

Jan 04, 2014 12:56 AM
Dwight Puntigan
DRP Realty, LLC - Saint Peters, MO
Dwight Puntigan

Steam, liquid water, and ice cubes.  I like my gas logs.  With gas logs I do not get in trouble for a dirty carpet.

Jan 04, 2014 02:12 AM
Debbie Cook
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc - Silver Spring, MD
Silver Spring and Takoma Park Maryland Real Estate

What a great post! We have lots of old fireplaces around here so I'm reblogging this post!

Jan 04, 2014 04:17 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Glad you enjoyed it Bill.  Stop by any time!

Jim - air holds moisture?  Next you're going to say it reaches a point where dew is created.  All of what you said it true, of course!

Michael - they do, they do.  And it's important.

Dwight - we like our gas logs too!  It's just a click!

Debbie - I spent my first year of life in an apartment on Colesville Road in Takoma Park.  I grew up in Kensington.  Maybe one day I'll see you at Continental Pizza on Connecticut Avenue?  And thanks for the reblog!

Jan 04, 2014 05:43 AM
Jimmy Faulkner
Florida. Homes Realty & Mortgage - Wantagh, NY
The Best Of St. Augustine

Very informative for chimney education. I like tht you meention when you aree beeing sold wood and they want to criss-cross it than it is not dried wood. Always someething  new to learn on thee rain.

Jan 04, 2014 09:31 AM
Rosie Crow
Serving Sugar Land, Richmond, Rosenberg, Missouri City - Sugar Land, TX
Exceeding Expectations. Delivering Results

Nice photograph! I've never seen what it looks like from up there. Makes me wonder what the condition of my flue is. 

Jan 04, 2014 01:32 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Jimmy - when buying wood there is a lot to consider!

Rosie - see if you can stand up in there and how high you can reach.  Photo please.

Jan 04, 2014 06:08 PM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

I don't have a fireplace, but if I did I would be very cautious.  I would be so concerned with having a house fire.

Jan 04, 2014 11:02 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Don't worry Sharon, when maintained they are exceptionally safe.  Just learn what to do and do it!  There's a lot of instructive info in this post.

Jan 05, 2014 08:47 PM