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"My Basement Doesn't Leak" (right now)

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Home Inspector with H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)

Water stains from previous leaks?

It never fails to make me nervous when I find water stains on a basement wall, or when I find a basement that has been "freshly painted".  This basement had been painted about a year earlier. On the disclosure form that the homeowner filled out, it stated 'No known leaks" in the basement. Then, I find this in the well room area, which is a area of the basement that protrudes from the main house, and is covered outside with a concrete slab at grade level, with undisturbed grass around it.

So, with a little putting 2+2 together, (after seeing these stains above) I conclude that the basement must have leaked in the past year, and probably still will during wet weather, since it is apparent that no repairs could have been made recently from the outside without digging around that concrete slab.

So, I show the homeowner this picture, and he says "Oh THAT. Yea, it might come in a litlle bit there when it rains real hard, but it never gets on the floor". 

Hmm, nothing at all on the disclosure form about that. Now the homeowner's word is quite suspect.

A little more investigation. Aha! Even though it is dry outside at the time of the home inspection, my moisture meter shows that both the wall and the wood above have a high moisture reading.  Methinks I have found an active water leak that was not disclosed. A little more touch-up paint might have kept it from being discovered? Doubtful. I always run the moisture meter around perimeter walls everywhere I can reach, so chances are good I would have still found it.

Homeowners, please don't try to hide such things. It usually will only end up in an awkward situation for you, the home inspector, and other parties involved. It is much better to just disclose that there might be a problem.

Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Kevin, you are so right---those kinds of areas can often be problematic.  Gotta watch those newly painted basement walls!

Nov 13, 2008 05:34 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

I know of a local inspector who got in hot water, not me, when a house closed and similar issues were never disclosed. Seller said he had no clue there was ever a problem.

Nov 13, 2008 08:36 AM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

Kevin your not suggesting that the homeowner would fib, never!

Jack

Nov 13, 2008 05:51 PM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

Kevin, Even a blind person could see those stains. People are such liars...

Nov 13, 2008 08:05 PM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Thanks for the comments guys. This is one of those situations where you just know there is going to be some kind of confrontation, and there's just no way around it.

Nov 13, 2008 09:32 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Kevin, You hit the nail on the head, the sellers word is suspect. I believe some deals fall apart not because we find problems, but because its clear the seller was trying to hide them. The buyer then loses confidence in the seller and ultimately the home.

Nov 13, 2008 10:02 PM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

James, truer words were never spoken.

Nov 13, 2008 10:05 PM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Dear Mr Kevin,

Are you inspecting the tension of cable, phone and electric cables, also the screens in soffit vents and crawl space vents. If not, perhaps you would like to hire my cousin, Peecan. He is presently unemployed, working to overcome a drinking and motivational problem, but would be willing to work cheap. He lives in your area.

Your recruiter in chief,

 

Nutsy

 

Nov 14, 2008 01:59 AM
Margaret Mitchell
Coldwell Banker Yorke Realty - York, ME
Seacoast Maine & NH Real Estate

Where is Steven getting all the outfits for the squirrel. lol?  He's  stealing the show!!  Thanks for the reminder to check the whole basement wall, not just the floor, Kevin.

Nov 15, 2008 11:12 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Margaret---some weirdo---who has absolutely nothing better to do:)

Nov 15, 2008 11:28 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Nutsy, I already have my hands full trying to keep the lipstick away from Mugsy.

Nov 15, 2008 11:16 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Basements and septic inspections cause the most problems. I am glad they use moisture meters.

Nov 16, 2008 12:23 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr Kevin Corset,

I was told by Mr Charles Buell and Mr. James Quarello that you find my succinct comments annoying. You have no idea how annoying my species can be if we get riled up. I once chewed through a cable connection two minutes before the Super Bowl party began. Ooops, why is the screen blank. Only the squirrel knows for sure. How fast do you think the cable guys can fix that? Not until after they are done watching the game.

No brag, just fact.

An annoyed Nutsy (and you do not want to annoy Nutsy!)

Nov 16, 2008 02:11 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

My Dear Nutsy,

                   Please do not go into a tailspin over this. It's not that I do not like your comments, it's just that I would prefer to hear from your benevolent employer MORE, and perhaps YOU a little less? He (after all) is the reason you exist.

Nov 16, 2008 04:40 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Kevin.

Good to hear that you want to hear more from me. Afraid that Active Rain members  Duncan and Buell have basically made it clear that they think Nutsy is the more clever of this inspection duo. You did get Nutsy pretty riled up.

Nov 16, 2008 07:32 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Steven,

       Alter-egos are nice, and are good comic relief. And they may even be more memorable than thier creators, but I keep mine in a cage most of the time,...when he isn't helping me inspect or do something creative. I hope Nutsy is getting over it by now.

Nov 16, 2008 10:28 PM
Dale Baker
Baker Energy Audits and Commercial Properties Inspections - Claremont, NH
New Hampshire Relocation Real Estate Information

Howdy and evening Kevin

Kevin, I was just checking to see if you might have returned to post some new blog posts. I sure do really hope things are going well for you and your mighty fine family!

Hope y'all have a mighty Mary Christmas!

Dec 16, 2011 02:59 PM