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Facing Foreclosure- No Showings." Where do Buyers Come From?"

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Real Estate Agent with RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA

I recently received a call from an owner asking me if I could find a buyer for his vacation house. He said he needed a buyer soon or bank was going to foreclose. He gave me address so I could research price, market, etc. He said had been trying to sell for a couple years, gave up, then rented it out, tenants quit paying and took a few months for them to move out. Seller is now desparate. ( I did suggest the possibility of a short sale)

 Well, I go to look it up under " Withdrawn", or " Expired" and can't find it. This property is a couple hours South of here, so I log into Richmond and Charlottesvile Associations of REALTORS. Still nothing.

 I call owner back. He says" Oh, I have it listed, but the agent hasn't had any showings since it's been on market. The grass is a foot tall, etc" So I look up " Actives". Still it doesn't show up in MLS. Call owner again to verify right address. OK. Now he tells me that "the agent has it advertised on his web site, www  homes near the water . com " or something similar. What? I need to log into agents web site to find it. I tell owners it's no wonder you aren't getting any showings. " How the hell is any buyer or agent going to know  what your agents web site URL is so they can log in to see your house? Zero! He tells me," Well, the agent has his web site on his business card, it's a nice web site" Again, I can't believe what I'm hearing.

 I can't help him unless he wants to get rid of his current agent. If not, this is a foreclosure waiting to happen.

There are close to 30 Associations in VA, some only cover a few counties, some parts of counties, others cover several counties and States. How many agents that might have a buyer looking for this type of property are going to know to log in and search from the Associations web site in the area the sellers property is located? I think, not too many. And some associations don't even offer a property search to the public or other agents. You have to be a member to log in and search.

 Many of the buyers near this property are from Northern VA, DC, MD. So when choosing an agent, doesn't it make sense to list with an agent that gives your property the largest coverage in the area where most buyers are coming from? This is one type of scenario where I think using a local agent is working against the seller.

 For an example, I just looked up " Actives" residential in Bedford County in MRIS, 3 listings came up as " Active". I did the same search from CARR Charlottesville Association of REALTORS and 26 " Actives" came up in Bedford County. I've never had a seller ask me what Association I was a member of. They just assume a local agent is best. So if I was selling in Bedford, I would assume that I would want an agent that is a member of CARR vs being a member of Blue Ridge Association for example. Unless, most of the buyers in Bedfore are coming from Northern VA and DC.

So, if taking a listing like this, do you pull up 100+ public records to see where the absentee owners actually live?

" Where do Buyers Come From?"

Toni Hogan
ToniHogan.com - Houston, TX

Wow! Not even on "craigslist?" I wonder if he's related to the agent. WOW! and WOW (backwards)!

Jun 06, 2011 12:34 PM
Liz Lockhart
Riverbend Realty, Cape Girardeau, MO - Cape Girardeau, MO
GRI, Cape Girardeau Real Estate

Jeff~ Sad to say, but just being on the web is not enough, as this seller is learning the hard way. Having the listing on REALTOR.com, as well as on a national franchise's website, are the best bets for selling a home. Most REALTOR.com and national franchise sites, such as www.century21.com, also spin out their listings to dozens of other websites, via ListHub or similar services.

It's not just a matter of whether or not the listing agency is local. It's a matter of how globally connected they are. Non-franchise agencies can be very connected, but it's a pretty sure bet that the franchise operations are web-savvy.

Jun 06, 2011 12:41 PM
Cliff Keith
SF Bay Homes - Redwood City, CA
Redwood City Real Estate

Yes it is sad there are licensed individuals out in the market place that the public has to deal with on a daily basis.  These agents should have their license taken away and barred from doing business in the future regarding real estate.  This is why our industry has a tainted view by a lot of people.

It sad and at the same pathetic.  The seller is dumb as a fence post too.

Jun 06, 2011 12:44 PM
Jayne Esposito
Coldwell Banker - Morgan Hill, CA
SRES, GREEN

Yikes!  Sounds like a scene from Dumband Dumber! The agent is dumb because he/she is not getting paid!  The seller is dumb because he could have done better as a FSBO!

Jun 06, 2011 12:54 PM
Geri Sonkin
Douglas Elliman Real Estate 516-457-7103 - Merrick, NY
Long Island Real Estate & Staging Expert

That is very sad.  I have to believe that Lenn is right about the agent.  This seller bought himself a one way ticket to foreclosure. 

Jun 06, 2011 12:56 PM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

Seriously crazy scenario -- the agent would never likely get a buyer at all under these conditions so why did he even bother to list it at all -- crazy.

Jun 06, 2011 01:09 PM
Phil Hillerman
Crye-Leike Realtors® - Rogers, AR
Crye-Leike Realtors®

Sounds like he went with a free listing that will end up costing him the vacation home and his credit rating. When will they learn?

Jun 06, 2011 01:11 PM
Jack O'Neal
HomeSmart Elite Group - Gilbert, AZ

I had a very similar experience, I do Fannie listings and got a short sale that was taken over and I did the rekey and inspected the house. 2 bedrooms 1 bath town house, my administrator asked me if I was sure the old listing was 3 bedroom 2 baths, agent had used the wrong tax number, cost the seller his home. Seller had no clue about it.

Jun 06, 2011 01:21 PM
Leslie Ebersole
Swanepoel T3 Group - Saint Charles, IL
I help brokers build businesses they love.

Crazy and sad for the seller. If the home a vacation property is an area with multiple mls's, then it has to be exposed on Realtor.com, Zillow.com, Trulia.com and the national broker sites. A good listing syndication would make all the difference.

Jun 06, 2011 02:24 PM
Maggie McFarland
RE/MAX Pearland - Maggie McFarland - Pearland, TX
Pearland Realtor, Homes for Sale in Pearland Texas

WOW! Feel bad for the seller.... that's a horrible story and probably one that will not end well for him...

Jun 06, 2011 02:27 PM
Donald Reich
Madison Specs - New Rochelle, NY
Cost Segregation Specialist

I wonder if that agent even had him sign an exclusive. Ask for copies of what he signed, if anything at all, and see if that agent has lived up to his end of the bargain. You might still be able to list this home!

Jun 06, 2011 02:28 PM
Judy Chapman
Referral Network of Illinois LLC - Chicago, IL

Jeff, Some agents don't get it. They're fooling around with people's lives. OTOH, some homeowners don't get it, either. All it takes is a little Googling, and homeowners facing foreclosure can get tons of information. Enough to at least know what's what.

Jun 06, 2011 02:49 PM
Sandra Corrigan
CEO/Owner/Team Leader/Keller Williams Executives Realty LLC - Highlands Ranch, CO

Thanks Jeff!

I was just having a discussion with fellow agents in my area about the lack of professionalism in our industry. I am not sure what the solution is. Educating the consumer is a good start. I would like to revamp our entire industry. Perhaps making it harder to get in and stay in so that the cream would rise to the top and the public would really be served.

 

Sandy

Jun 06, 2011 05:00 PM
Sarasota & Manatee Counties FL
SaraMana Properties - QuickFreeMLS.com - Bradenton, FL
QuickFreeMLS.com - Listings In Paradise

A crazy story. Are you sure you would want to get involved with a property two hours from you?

Jun 06, 2011 06:04 PM
George Bennett
Inactive - Port Orford, OR
Inactive Principal Broker, GRI

There just has to be more to this than the Seller is telling you because the information we have just doesn't substantiate the Seller's reasons for listing with this agent or this agent's reasons for listing the property only on his website.

Please ask more questions and update us when you get the 'rest of the story.'

Jun 06, 2011 06:20 PM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

I agree with Lenn- it is sad.  Until he fires his current agent there is nothing you can do except shake your head and wonder what was the seller thinking?

Jun 06, 2011 11:28 PM
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Gloia- yes, sad but true.

Lenn- I think so. Seller talked like this agent had all the answers. Seller isn't too bright based on what I've heard him say.

Steven- I guess he does a lot of bar hopping ( I mean networking)?

Toni- It's just weird. I guess they depend on word of mouth in that area?

Liz- Sad is accurate. Even a blind man can see this is going to foreclosure.

Cliff- Yes, it's sad and pathetic. Seller has a light on upstairs, but noboby is home.

Jaynr- Agree, it really is like dumb and dumber, Seller wouldn't know how to do a FSBO.

Geri- True, Seller brought this on himself with his stange decisions. Maybe he secretly wants it to go to foreclosure?

Benjamin- True, it just doesn't make sense.

Phil- I don't think he will learn. Doubtful he will buy anytrhing again in the future.

Jack- It's true, some sellers ( and agents) don't have a clue, but noone can convince them of that.

Leslie- The whole process and their way of thinking just don't make any sense.

Maggie- After talking with the seller, it's hard to feel bad for him. He just won't listen to common sense.

Donald- I did ask him if he had a copy of the listing agreement, and he said the agent never gave him anything. I'm willing to bet they made a verbal listing agreement over the phone.

Judy- Neither the agent or owner seem to get it in this case.

Sandy- This is definately a case of poor service from the agent. ( and poor understanding of selling process for owner)

Quick free MLS- I can't think of your name and it's not listed- Anyway, no, I'm not sure I even want to deal with this seller. We do have an agent in out office that lives in Fredericksburg which is closer than one hour away that I could team up with if I really wanted the listing.

Gearge- I've talked with seller several times. i've known him over 10 years. He seems to think that this is how agents operate in that area. People bought lots just to have  aplace to store their boats and have close access to nearby marinas to they could boat out in the bay. It doesn't make sense. If i get involved, i'll update with any new info.

#19- Yes, sad. Another foreclosure that doesn't have to be.

 

Jun 07, 2011 12:08 AM
Irene Kennedy Realtor® in Northwestern NJ
Weichert - Lopatcong, NJ

Jeff,

I do hope you are able to help this guy - even if just a referral to a local agent who can aggressively and properly market the home!

Jun 07, 2011 12:42 AM
Sandy Acevedo
951-290-8588 - Chino Hills, CA
RE/MAX Masters, Inland Empire Homes for Sale

So it was a free listing or the agent was dreaming he could double end it himself. But still. 2 x 0 is... well, you know...

Jun 07, 2011 05:44 AM
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Irene- Anyone could do better than his current agent, but this is a bordeline short sale and I know the seller well enough that it is highly unlikely that he will provide everything needed for short sale approval. Foreclosure might be best.

Sandi- Yes, that was my impression that the agent operates that way.

Jun 07, 2011 08:53 AM