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Before You Shop for a Condo, Pre-Qualify Your Lender First

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Mortgage and Lending with iLoan - NMLS ID#1947845 NMLS 79048

If you’re a FHA buyer shopping for a condo, you’d better pre-qualify your lender first. If you’re listing a condo and a buyer gives you a FHA pre-approval letter, you’d better pre-approve that lender first. Because Spot Approvals are a thing of the past, it’s important to know which of the two remaining FHA condo approval processes your lender will be using: Direct Endorsement Lender Review and Approval Process (DELRAP) or HUD Review and Approval Process (HRAP) as outlined in MORTGAGEE LETTER 2009-46 B.

DELRAP is only available to lenders who have unconditional Direct Endorsement authority and staff with knowledge and expertise in reviewing and approving condominium projects. They also have the option to use the HRAP method if they prefer (usually if they’re not sure on the project or feel “iffy” about it). HRAP is the method all lenders will use who fit into one of the 3 following distinct categories:

 

  • Lenders who don’t have unconditional Direct Endorsement authority from HUD
  • Lenders who lack staff with knowledge and expertise in reviewing and approving condominium projects
  • Lender who despite being adequately staffed and having Direct Endorsement authority are too cowardly to exercise original thought in underwriting, follow the guidelines and sign off on projects – thereby assuming some risk (this may sound funny but expect this to include many lenders)

 

Since evaluating the eligibility of an association is the same between DELRAP and HRAP, the only difference between the two is who does it, or more importantly, how long it takes. It takes a considerably longer amount of time to get the approval under HRAP. This extra time has implications for finance contingencies, rate locks, expiration of tax credits and much more.

One could try affirming that their condo association is approved in the FHA-approved condominium projects website but good luck with that! It would be wiser to make sure that your lender uses the DELRAP method of approving associations. Additionally, if your lender uses DELRAP but decides to use HRAP on your particular association, it would behoove a Realtor and buyer to look into why this decision has been made as it may indicate some level of ill-health in the association that a buyer might want to know about.

It’s one thing to be aware of a guideline change or that one is happening. It’s another thing to read between the lines, understand the potential consequences and steer clear of potential problems. Let’s get ahead of this one!

 

Posted by

Charles Dailey - Branch Manager, Loan Officer, Certified Military Housing Specialist - iLoan - NMLS ID# 79048 -  612.234.7283 - charles@charlesdailey.com


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Comments(47)

Kathy Opatka
RE/MAX CROSSROADS - Ocean City, MD
Serving Ocean City, MD, & The Delaware Beaches

Charles,

Thanks for the heads-up!  Although I sell a lot of condos here in Ocean City, Maryland, they are usually NOT FHA!  But ,at least now, I'll know to question the Lender!

Feb 21, 2010 05:51 AM
Clayton Bonjean
Mainsail Realty Company - Santa Rosa Beach, FL
Broker | Owner | MBA

Great post! I have sold a few condos in Florida in the past 6 months and a few have been financed.  I had a buyer for one of my condo listings insist that he was approved by a fannie mae servicer and the mortgage broker continued support this.  I had to actually call the mortgage broker and explain that over 10% of the condos in the project were owned by a single entity and they finally told the buyer that they could not do it.   I was able to refer a local lender that did not require the association disclosure and we got the deal done.   It is really impossible to finance a newer condo in Florida through Fannie, Freddie or FHA.  BEWARE! The servicer will tell the client that they are approved until the last hour when they figure out it will not meet the new strict criteria and your deal will be South Bound (Like the Allman Brothers Song).  In florida, I have found that you need to find a good local servicer that does things in house and understands the local condo market.  20% to 25% down is the norm and the rates are a tad bit higher but still incredible.

Feb 21, 2010 06:20 AM
Barbara Altieri
Better Homes and Gardens RE Shore and Country Properties - Shelton, CT
REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale

Charles -- Excellent post. Just another thing I am going to add to my due diligence list.  It never ends.

Feb 21, 2010 06:57 AM
Sam Miller
RE/MAX Stars Realty - Howard, OH
Knox County Ohio Real Estate Specialist

Charles - Great reminder about lenders and condo  financing.

Feb 21, 2010 07:11 AM
Marguerite Wherry
Associate Broker / Teles Properties, Inc. - Malibu, CA

If you have an FHA buyer, try to sell them a single family home. I just closed an FHA condo and on top that it was a short sale. The FHA loan part was the easy part, thanks to the buyers lender.

Feb 21, 2010 08:14 AM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Hmmm. thanks for the post today.

Patricia

Feb 21, 2010 09:46 AM
Brian Morgenweck
Power Realty Group, LLC Bergen County, NJ - Hackensack, NJ
Broker/Owner, GRI, CRS, ABR, SRS

Thanks for the post, Charles!

So important to understand the financing end of the business!

What was one of the proposed newer FHA regs in the last several months about not qualifying if a building or complex is within "X" feet from a main road?!

In my area of Hackensack, NJ, most of the condos are on main roads. that's part of the attraction to NYC commuters! You can walk out the door & be on a bus in 30 steps (if you have short legs!)

I guess we'll have to make sure we build our 30-story high rises in the woods from now on!

Did someone say it's not getting easier?!

Thanks!

 

Feb 21, 2010 11:46 AM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

I agree with Lenn - it is getting hard to make a living as a realtor! now we have to worry about the lender's qualifications! Makes it hard for a buyer if they pick the "wrong" lender and are in a competitive bidding situation.

Feb 21, 2010 01:03 PM
Sibley Poland
RE/MAX Stars Realty - Mount Vernon, OH
15 Years of Professional Experience

Yes! My market is a small one (less than 55,000) and many of our 'older' condo complexes are NOT on the FHA list.

Feb 21, 2010 01:30 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Charles - Thank you for the clarification on the new process for getting FHA approved.  This is not making things easier.

Feb 21, 2010 02:49 PM
Lupe Soto-Realtor
Premier Realty Assoc - Los Angeles, CA
Listing, Selling Burbank, San Fernando Valley LA

Hello everyone,  the main factors to get a condo loan approval now these days are:  owner occupancy factor, HOA reserves balance, it is highly recommended to call the HOA management co and ask these questions before making an offer or during the 7 days home inspection contingency.  best wishes from Burbank CA.

Feb 21, 2010 04:27 PM
William James Walton Sr.
WEICHERT, REALTORS® - Briotti Group - Waterbury, CT
Greater Waterbury Real Estate

This may be one of the best reasons why I don't deal with either listing condos or helping people to buy them.

You always provide very detailed explanations in your posts, Charles. Keep it up.

Feb 21, 2010 10:52 PM
Charles Dailey
iLoan - NMLS ID#1947845 - Saint Paul, MN

I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH OUR HUD HOMEOWNERSHIP CENTER ASKING HOW LONG THE HRAP PROCESS TAKES.  8 WEEKS!!!!!  Forget that!  It's DELRAP or nothing.

Feb 22, 2010 05:18 AM
Anonymous
Anonymous

Touche'!  Timely and Spot on!  Great post Charles! 

Feb 22, 2010 08:24 AM
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Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Charles:  The reasons mentioned within your post ... and so many more ... are why it's increasingly important to choose, know, and trust the lender you work with.  Condos have become an "art form" to close in many areas.  Working with a lender that has a successful track record getting these loans to the closing table has become vital.  Well explained post with sound reasoning ...   

Gene

Feb 22, 2010 08:46 AM
Christine Bohn
RE/MAX Professionals - Gainesville, FL
The Bohn Team, Gainesville FL

Charles - Well written! Great Post!   I just re-blogged you !  Thank you!

Feb 22, 2010 10:12 AM
Mark Montross
Catamount Realty Group - Burlington, VT
Listing and Buyer Specialist

This is all very interesting information. I always enjoy learning from the posts of my peers. It really is the best resource!

Feb 22, 2010 11:50 PM
Pam Turner, REALTOR®, e-PRO®, SFR
Century 21 Belk Realtors Dalton GA - Dalton, GA

Charles, I'm going to re-blog you as well -- it's getting harder to finance a condo here in North Georgia as well. Thanks for the post.

Feb 23, 2010 08:32 AM
Dana Scanlon
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Bethesda, MD
Bethesda MD- Award-Winning Bethesda Realtor

Thanks, I have a new really nice condo listing in DC in the Chevy Chase area and its not FHA approved (I checked before starting up my marketing). So options are limited for the buyers with little down payment. If you have options for this, let me know!!!

I would love to re-blog you, but have never done this before and don't quite know the rules...

Feb 23, 2010 09:00 AM
Rodney Mason, VP of Mtg Lending
Guaranteed Rate NMLS# 2611 - Atlanta, GA
AL,AR,AZ,CA,CO,FL,GA,IN,MI,MS,NC,NV,SC,TN,TX,VA,WA

Just one more reason to work with truly experienced individuals.  Condos are getting tougher and you have to know the in's and out's.

Feb 23, 2010 12:37 PM