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Thinking About An Investment Property? Work the Numbers First

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. BK629999

thinking about buying an investment property

Today many buyers are looking for "that perfect deal".  We've seen deals in various price ranges. 

Investors have gotten back in the market. Some are looking for houses to use as rentals, while others are flipping properties for profit.

Many investors are looking to buy properties that need work, so they can build sweat equity.  Some will buy a house that needs a new roof, or a new A/C, one that needs flooring or a new kitchen, perhaps a coat of paint or new bathrooms. Each investor may be looking for something a bit different. However, they are all looking for a great deal.  

Investors are in the business to make money, today or sometime in the future. They know they make their money when they buy. Some are pros that can rehab a house in under a month.  If they can get in and out and do the work affordably enough they are able to build some serious sweat equity.

On the other hand, there are novices looking for their first property.

In buying a property for investment, it's important to buy one with the right things wrong with it.  Investors that aren't very handy, that have to hire everything out, should talk to a professional that knows the ins and outs of the business, first.  They have to be careful they don't buy a house that burns a hole in their pocketbook. It will be the first and the last house they ever buy.

In buying an investment property there are many considerations:

Will you be doing the work yourself?

How long will it take to complete the job?

How much will it cost in materials?

Will you be paying yourself to do the work? Or could you be working somewhere else and making more money?

Consider what your closing costs will be to purchase the house.

How much will holding costs be?  If it takes 9 months to do the job, how much does that amount to in mortgage payments?  What about monthly water bills, electric bills, gas bills?  And, homeowners association fees?

If the house is going to be resold, how much will the closing costs be to sell?  How long will the property be on the market before it sells? Add that and the monthly utility bills to the holding costs.

Consider this, if it takes 9 months to do the work and the plan is to use the property as a rental, why not just buy a house with a tenant already in place?  You'll be collecting rent from day one. And, the tenant will be paying the mortgage. Be sure the house being considered has positive cash flow.  If the tenant is in place, you won't be putting money in immediately for fix up, either.

Or how about this...why not pay $10,000 to $15,000 more for a house, provided the numbers work, and buy a nicer property, one that doesn't need a major overhaul, but perhaps just some elbow grease and a coat of paint?  Get the work finished in a couple of weeks, and get a tenant in it right away. Check the numbers first. For some people it pays to save the headache of trying to do the work themselves. They'll save in fix up expenses and many extra months of holding costs.

When I got into investing 14 years ago, my broker told me when considering a property to figure the numbers on paper first.  If the numbers don't work, don't bother looking at the property. 

We hear about sweat equity and it adding to the value of a property. But, in some situations, for new investors or those that aren't so handy, it may make more sense to think smarter, instead of working harder.

Sandy Shores REALTOR®, Melbourne/Palm Bay FL Real Estate

Brevard County Real Estate and Investing

I specialize in Residential, Investment & Relocations. 

We have a team of professionals to facilitate your Short Sale.

I buy, sell, rent, own and manage Investment Property.

Caren Wallace
Premier Property Group LLC - Tualatin, OR
Portland Caren Real Estate

Sandy, you have written a very comprehensive outline of what to expect when considering investing in real estate. Investing is not something to enter into lightly, it can be a boon or a bust very quickly!

Mar 22, 2010 10:46 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Sandy, you make some excellent points.  An investor needs to check potential costs and the expected revenue.  When it comes to fixer uppers, always allow for the unexpected.  Do all of your homework first.  This is where experienced agents can be a valuable asset.

Mar 22, 2010 11:38 PM
Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Eighteen Years Experience in Brevard County

The prices do make the opportunity for investors very appealing, at least in our area. As long as they know what they are getting into- and you have done a good job of pointing it out.

Mar 23, 2010 12:57 AM
Ann Hayden 636-399-7544
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Select Properties-St. Louis Missouri - Des Peres, MO
SelectAnn.com

Sandy,

Easy money is never really easy!

Ann Hayden in Wildwood, MO

Mar 23, 2010 03:17 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Caren, Thanks, it's important that potential investors know what to consider and what to look for before making that first purchase.

Hi Gabe, It's important to check those costs ahead of time. And great point, always expect the unexpected.

Hi Gary, Our prices do make it attractive in considering an investment property purchase. I know many have jumped in and done well with it.

Ann, I agree, there's nothing easy about investing in real estate.

Mar 23, 2010 04:30 AM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Oh yes - the ole number crunch that analyzes whether a property at a certain price in good condition, might be a better deal than a similar property in bad condition but at a lower price - a VERY important consideration!

Mar 23, 2010 02:50 PM
John Walters
Frank Rubi Real Estate - Slidell, LA
Licensed in Louisiana

Sandy the only thing i might add is to buy something close enough to where you live so you can keep an eye on it.

Mar 24, 2010 01:36 PM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Hi Sandy, All good points.  Putting it on paper and crunching numbers is definitely a must and for the novice investor, having a professional like you is a must, too!

Mar 24, 2010 04:45 PM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

It is amazing how many nice properties you can actually fine right now.  Many of these foreclosures and short sales don't need any work beyond paint and cosmetic repairs.  I generally try to stay away from the true junkers unless the price is super low.  Your points are well taken.

Mar 25, 2010 01:34 AM
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Sandy,

Very good advice.  I wish more agents would share information like this with their first time investors.

Mar 25, 2010 01:34 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Myrl, So important to look at the numbers first. If the numbers don't work, skip the property. It will suck you dry.

John, Excellent point and one that should have been included in this post. All of our rentals are within 5 miles of our home.  Buying outside the area makes management much more difficult.

Mary, I think that every investor should work with an agent that has owned investment property of their own. There is so much to know and so much to learn. Investing is so different than what people think it is when they are just getting started.

Rob, You're right, there are some nice deals on the market today. I don't really care for the true junkers either. Too much work, too much down time and you're not paying yourself for your sweat equity.

Richard, I agree. Investing can be complex and difficult.  Many have a distorted concept of it when going in.

Mar 26, 2010 10:43 AM
Jeremy Butts
Real Estate Entrepreneur - Louisville, KY
Investor

Sandy -
What a great post! This is essential information for new investors. Have you ever noticed on the FLIP TV shows, they never include the closing costs and the holding costs when they calculate the "profit"?!!!
Best regards,
J. Butts - Flips In Focus

Mar 27, 2010 04:47 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Jeremy, Yes, I always notice that on the Flip TV shows they never include any closing costs or holding costs when calculating the profit on those properties. Unfortunately this gives a distorted view to people watching that want to go out and beginning flipping houses.

Mar 27, 2010 11:11 AM
Ann Hayden 636-399-7544
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Select Properties-St. Louis Missouri - Des Peres, MO
SelectAnn.com

Sandy,

Investing can be good or it can be an eye opening experience...

Ann Hayden in Wildwood, MO

Mar 28, 2010 03:39 PM