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PAYING FOR FLOOD INSURANCE AT LAKE SINCLAIR? Maybe you don't need it.

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 GREC# 169695

Well, one of our deals has hit a snag.  Surprise Surprise.  This time it's flood insurance.  I've been posting about this issue for a couple of years.  In 2008 FEMA mapped Putnam County.  The maps are perhaps (how can I say this nicely) a little LESS than accurate.

It's a catch 22.  You can't avoid lender flood insurance without a LOMA (Letter of Map Amendment) after you submit an Elevation Certificate to FEMA for review(this is a lengthy process).  You can't get flood insurance in the amount you need from your insurance company unless you provide an Elevation Certificate putting you in the flood zone.  So for a buyer it usually means delays in closing.

Today I talked with a seller and explained the new lender was requiring flood insurance even though the seller and I both know that his house is clearly above the "magic" number that puts it out of the flood zone.  The insurance company for the purchaser will not issue flood insurance unless it is IN the flood zone.  So our alternative is to get the Elevation Certificate (in the sellers name) and have him apply for the LOMA) which typically takes 60 to 90 days.  BUMMER. 

This seller was already paying for flood insurance after his own current lender made him two years ago.  Could he have NOT paid it these past two years and NOT had a problem at closing?  WHY yes!

If you live on Lake Sinclair and are currently paying for flood insurance you MAY NOT NEED IT.  It is worth the cost of an elevation certificate, a few photographs and applying for a Letter of Map Amendment to get your property removed from the flood zone.  Call me and I'll be happy to explain the process a little better if you don't understand what you need to do.

Or just call a local surveyor and get started.  Out of the approximately 100 people I've assisted with getting started on this process only ONE owner still has to have flood insurance.  And even if you don't have a mortgage and are not paying for flood insurance if you plan to sell your home, you should address this issue now.  The seller I talked to today wishes he had known how to take care of this issue, and we'd be closing on Monday.

PS- it's not my seller (we represent the buyer on this property)

Also if you need to have a surveyor issue a "Certification letter" for your property or dwelling several are now doing this for less than the price of a full survey.  This is a list of local surveyors from our "preferred" list.

Edwin Thompson 478-414-1241

J.E. Smith 478-452-1182

Ogletree and Chivers (Philip Chivers) 478-453-3454

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Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Living near the water I can imagine this is something you would be very familiar with. You are certainly well versed on the ins and outs of the snafus.

Oct 05, 2010 08:08 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

I believe that if I were the buyer, unless the lender waived that condition, I'd be looking at another lender.

Oct 05, 2010 08:40 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Hi Tammy,

I'm with Lenn on this one...I'd be searching for another lender ASAP if he didn't waive that condition.

Oct 05, 2010 08:47 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

Chris Ann- I know a LOT more about it than I did 2 years ago, that's for sure.

Lenn- It's an issue with every lender because the county flood maps show part of the property in the flood zone.  It's not the lender.

Dorie- Unfortunately it's all lenders when the FEMA map shows it's in the flood zone.  Just another great accomplishment by our government officials.

Oct 05, 2010 09:05 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Ah ha! 

I had one of them once.  The flood map grid showed water no more than 40 feet from the house. 

Problem, that water was at the bottom of a 60 foot ravine where a small creek flowed.  It would take a 40 day and 40 night flood to rise the water out of the ravine.

My buyers had to pay an extra $1500 for flood insurance, settle and then appeal the matter.  They did an succeeded and the insurance company adjusted their insurance.  However, it caused everyone some angst.

Oct 05, 2010 11:08 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

Lenn- that's the process we were doing.  But now all of a sudden, I suppose after all the policies issued for closing and then canceled once it was established property was indeed NOT in the flood zone the local insurance companies have stopped issuing the policies UNLESS the surveyor says YES it is in the flood zone. 

The saddest part is the ONE lady who was helpful in our courthouse was fired last month due to budget cuts.  The person doing that job now... not so helpful.

Oct 05, 2010 11:30 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

This is crazy. Why can't you get flood insurance through the National Flood Insurance Program? In California, for example, you don't have to be in a flood zone to get flood insurance. That's because floods can happen when there's too much rain or a river overflows.

Oct 05, 2010 02:42 PM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

It is crazy, but there's a $30,000. limit unless you are in a flood zone. (or so the insurance folks tell me)  Granted, this house ISN'T going to flood.  Well unless we need an ark again.  Hopefully we will make some headway tomorrow.  It's been a very frustrating ordeal getting this one closed.  Not the best experience I've had with a loan officer. 

Oct 05, 2010 04:33 PM
Marchel Peterson
Results Realty - Spring, TX
Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro

Tammy, Living in such a low lying area this is something we constantly have to deal with also.  I don't understand why you can't get flood insurance through the National program either.  Here you have to wait a month for it to go in to affect but pretty much anyone can get it.  I have it myself as we almost street flooded once.  When you live so low a good hurricane could take you out. 

Oct 05, 2010 04:53 PM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I have no idea... But the national program will be something I will be asking about tomorrow.  We're not really "low" here at all.  The shore of our man made lake is 340 feet above sea level.  This house is about 18 feet above that at the foot of the foundation and the living space much higher than that.

Oct 05, 2010 05:38 PM