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The Potential Effect of Transparency in the Mortgage Service Industries

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Real Estate Technology with BoomTown
grim-reaper.jpg Some members of blogging and other community platforms I belong too tend to misinterpret my MO…calling me ‘negative’, an ‘idealist’, ‘mud-slinger’, etc. Contrary to popular belief, I’m not the Grim Reaper, although my posts may have a sensationalist, tongue-in-cheek, even rapine roll to them; so at times it is hard to convey what should be viewed as ’serious’ content over general and random opinion.

Few people like to entertain the guy who trashes their business model as antiquated, especially those within the industry who currently enjoy a comfortable margin of success doing business under the self-prescribed ‘right way’. So, let me simply say that I am here to help, not just pee in your Cheerios. Maybe I’m guilty of a little too much self-promotion, but you can’t get mad at the kid who tries to answer the tough questions, whether invited or not, and offers a solution for everyone else to openly poke holes in/at/through.

‘Disintermediation’, a word I filed in my vocabulary base this week thanks to others in the blogosphere, is another in the long list of progressive business practices that seem to become more debated by the day in this ‘underground’ real estate related community. As the mortgage industry moves towards the path of greater transparency, outsourcing for less expensive labor practices is becoming a required task more than an option or debatable topic. Globalization hit the mortgage service industries a few years ago, if you hadn’t noticed. Anyone can outsource file processing (from Indiana to India) at far less expense than employing an in-house processor, with less errors :| This is only the tip of the iceberg, the risk (or opportunity) is far greater.

Much like the traditional stock broker middleman, the mortgage broker/banker middleman is a species who is facing a slaughtering wave of attrition, and for very similar reasons. The mortgage bubble has popped, and as the market scales from historical demand back into some balance with supply, only the strong and/or adoptive will survive…specifically…those who can do more for less, in less time. In the case of the mortgage industry, new and inexpensive technology is mandating transparency and forcing disintermediation from traditional ways. Instead of looking over the entire landscape, many within the industry refuse to look further than past what they can currently see.

Too often I hear comments like: ‘No piece of technology is going to replace me!’, ‘I’ve been very successful for years, why would I change?’ ‘It’s not practical to do business like you suggest’, ‘My customers love the way I do business’, ‘People don’t mind paying my fee.’

The internet has only been around for apprx 11 years, it is still in it’s infancy. There were plenty of people 10 years ago that dismissed Information Technology in a similar fashion, and PC cynics before them.

The demographic that has grown up online is just now entering the mortgage marketplace. They don’t value the traditional relationship as much as information. It, not you, is recognized as the most valuable resource. If they can get around you on the cheap, they will, and someone will be there to sell it to them for less than you’re capable of. Think of it this way, fathom doing business without the net and still being as efficient and effective as you are today? Impossible.

Dot com era businesses (and their plans) blew up at the introduction of transparency into it’s inflated numbers and projections. Company’s with P/E ratios and other fundamental baseline measurements that made 0 economic sense imploded.

The stock brokers who were making huge rips under cloak were exposed and marginalized or eliminated from the industry. I got along great with my stock broker, that didn’t mean I felt obligated to pay him 2-3 times the amount I now pay to buy and sell my securities. I found a way to do it faster and cheaper. His job and fees were marginalized to the point he joined the mortgage industry. Now he’s looking at me like, ‘What’s next?’.

Quid pro-quo; What is the benefit of changing how you do business now? Market share, and alot of it. However, early adoption of disruptive technologies that promote transparency and as a result, increased loan volume, requires disintermediation from current mortgage broker labor compensation models and business processes.

The new mortgage market consumer will demand more efficient, less expensive, point and click, intuitive interfaces to gain their business. If your cost per loan acquisition is $1,200+, you have a shelf life of about 1 year.  Insist on continuing to charge points instead of a fixed fee for (multiple) services? Get relegated to fighting for ‘whats left’. Own or working for a brokerage that pays some type of 30%-70% split? You’re pricing yourself out of competition.

Seth Godin postulates that integration of new technologies, business ideas, products, and paradigms generally move into general usage/acceptance along a traditional bell curve, which seems more than reasonable to believe.

Lets put the transparent, efficient, cost effective, and intuitive mortgage business model into the curve as a whole, assuming that what I have laid out becomes remotely true.

Where will you or your Company be in this curve? Among the late majority, or cynical laggards who die a slow death or play perpetual catch-up?…or among the innovators and early adopters who are positioned to capture significant market share….a market that is primed for a huge correction, the beginning of which we are just now seeing.

The e-myth demonstrates that a business owner, and thats all of us in mortgage services nowadays, must work on his/her business, not in it, to become successful. The Innovators Dilemma discusses the dangers of getting too comfortable in your current success model, and why the big traditional players in the market fail to innovate, recognize, or implement disruptive technologies, to their detriment. The dot bomb explosion has demonstrated what happens to those pimping overvalued products, impractical revenue models, and non-transparent policies.

Disintermediation and/or transparency aren’t nouveau business process concepts whose effects have never been studied, they can be seen in a number of recent events . Considering the mortgage market is many times the size in volume over it’s equities counterpart, totaling some $8+ Trillion dollars, the overall effects and shift of wealth will be proportionately huge.

Will you get swallowed by the wave, or ride it into future sunsets?
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker
Jeff - your posts never fail to stimulate thought. You can pee in my Cheerios any ole' time.
Nov 08, 2006 09:14 AM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty
Jeff - I make similar observations about the real estate industry and pricing structure.  Popular it's not - likely it is.
Nov 08, 2006 10:31 AM
Jeff Corbett
BoomTown - Charleston, SC

I'm currently reviewing/editing/adding to a critical assessment created by an FCC attorney re: traditional real estate pricing policies (with alternative suggestions) that is to be submitted to a number of Ivy League legal journals...

We should talk! 

Nov 08, 2006 10:49 AM
Jamie Chafin
Village Bank Mortgage - Richmond, VA

Well said....great article!

Get on the bus, Gus

Make a new plan Stan

No need to be coy Roy

Just listen to Jeff

He is on the money!

Nov 08, 2006 11:29 AM
Mary McKnight
Sacrilicious Marketing - Orlando, FL

I'm not sure if I like what you have to say or how you say it better.  You're hired!  Just kidding.  As a developer, I have been involved in many a disruptive technology and as an innovator you can come under scrutiny and fire for both your motivation and methods, but the end result is that you will have transformed the way the industry does business.

When you look at the facts, transparency will improve the industry not destroy it- it is simply a more honest way of doing business that will be much appreciated by the consumer.  The fact is, the mortgage broker could go the way of the nearly extinct travel agent if the industry doens't have a complete overhaul soon.  Like you said, this generation is comfortable with online transactions and doesn't value the "relationship" so the logical move is automation or semi-automation and transparency.

Nov 08, 2006 11:43 AM
Jeff Corbett
BoomTown - Charleston, SC

The 'rapine' nature of my posts strikes again... 

Tommie, you come across as the type of broker who is well adjusted to adopting and changing with the market...so I apologize if my words rubbed a nerve.  

I do set out to provoke thought from others in this community, for my benefit as well, and so appreciate your extended insight.  

$ 32 with Merrill Lynch, using their client interfaces instead of my buddy John...

 

Some people may say this is anti-American business...so I guess you don't own a foreign TV, DVD, car, shirt....ok then....I have had success with an American Company (out of VA) that outsourced the document flow that processing is to a center in India.  

Contrary to popular belief, the individuals I dealt with on the other end were as articulate, organized, and professional as any processor I have had (except one, and always did keep one on payroll).  The people who can perform this job are among the educated elite in their country, processing mortgage files pay top $ and draws pleasantly qualified talent. 

Everyone picks on the Dell/ India communication frustration levels...Show me anyone who can explain computer repair over the telephone to a novice user already in a state of high frustration, anyone....My mom yells at me and pounds the keyboard when I try to explain how to connect to a wireless network over the phone.

Technology and it's ability to increase the lubrication of communication, can bring you closer to your clients and team, it doesn't have to dehumanize...

 

Nov 08, 2006 02:03 PM
Curt Swearengin
Restoration Construction Team - Tampa, FL

 

As a former stock broker as well (Paine Weber in the 80's) My exit from the business was when the seasoned client oriented top producers were replaced with wet behind the ears just out of college $15K per year numbers crunchers.Brought in to divide up the book of of the guy that spent 15 to 20 years building relationships. The pro who made a comfortable $200K per year could be replaced by 10 who would dazle the clients with there numbers crunching. The firm saved 50K per year and the book got more attention. But the referals left with the relationship builder.

I went to the Mortgage business to keep the belief that if you provided value to your clients and a personal touch you would be rewarded with fair compensation and referrals. How many referrals can you expect from a transparent price shoping whore transaction? I hope they throw dirt on me before I am forced to give up a relationship with a client for a faster keyboard

 

Nov 08, 2006 03:05 PM
Anonymous
Brooks Hatlin

I'm usually content to hang around without saying much, but Curt's post touches a nerve with me—as it should with anyone who's ever dealt with a broker who peddles interest rates under the guise of "relationships."

Make no mistake: The real estate finance industry has grown fat at the trough, feeding on the lifeblood of consumers who mistake relationships for friendships (hell, even a virus has a relationship with its host).

After reading everything Jeff has put up on theXBroker, which simply comes out and says what a lot of us here have been thinking for a long time, I'd say the industry has some explaining to do.

And so do you, Curt: You say you went into the mortgage business looking to be rewarded with fair compensation and referrals. Sounds reasonable enough—until we come to the definition of "fair." I don't presume to know your fee structure, but perhaps you're willing to share it with us here. 

I understand what you're saying about "price shopping whore transactions," but when's the last time you called a travel agent to book a flight? Or paid an extra 20% on a car purchase just because the salesman knows the names of your kids and sends you a birthday card every year?

Look, I know what Jeff is promoting is messing with your rice bowl. No way around that.  I would be worried if I were you, too.  But to try to build a career around the "value of relationships" in an filthy business that's been date raping consumers with impunity will only work if people continue to make decisions in the dark.

You're probably a decent guy and are good at what you do.  But if you think that somehow grants you the ability to operate against the current in an info-driven economy where the only thing that separates me from a wholesale rate mortgage and a pumped-up screw job is a sycophantic wolf in sheep's clothing, I've got a bit of advice for you:

Close your eyes and shut your mouth, because the dirt's already in the air.

 


Nov 09, 2006 12:56 AM
#8
Curt Swearengin
Restoration Construction Team - Tampa, FL

Brooks I must admit that you have opened my eyes to the reality of transparency. You must be a ghost. No profile on Active Rain. No Google results. Unless you are Bruce Hatlin the librarian in the Shawshank Redemption. ( Great Movie by the way)

I have a great respect for Jeff and Mary and I do believe that our industry is changing and to survive I must change with it. I sit here with my wireless laptop, my widescreen high definition TV playing in the background, responding to an online community and I am wondering how I made it this far in life. With all this human contact I have subjected myself to. I wonder if I never have another relationship if I will escape the common cold.

As a sycophantic wolf in sheep's clothing I guess I will have to get to close to the human element to give them the pumped up screw job you refer to. Maybe I will take your advice and get a job at Di-Tech and net screw them.

As you were kind enough to make an assumption that I was a nice enough of a guy. I am sure you are to. I am just at a disadvantage because I don't know what you do or who you are. Maybe Hal the computer from 2001( another great movie)

I like most of the Rainers actually get it that the world is changing. I come to Active Rain to learn how to best adapt to these inevitable changes. Sorry for the rant.

I have to go now. I was scheduled for some surgery but I think I will go to Web-Md and see if I can't just do it myself. What was I thinking. I don't need a professional to help me with this I've got the net.

Curt Swearengin

www.amcapholdings.com

www.icouldbeyours.com

Jan 15, 2007 06:20 PM
Jeff Corbett
BoomTown - Charleston, SC
Hmmm I cant find Brooks anywhere else around AR either....
Jan 16, 2007 02:47 AM