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Why LABOR over LIBOR?

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Education & Training with Tech and Social Media Consultant
 Part of what I do is educate clients and readers.  The topics range from topical news stories to mortgage planning strategies, to warnings of potential scams and frauds.  This last month had the liquidity crisis on the front pages.  

So naturally, I spent a good deal explaining how lenders sell their pools of loans, how those loans are securitized.  I also explained what happened to Jumbo loans, Alt-A loans, and the like.

This month may be the month of the LIBOR.  It's just starting to hit the mainstream news.  So here's your official

 "What the heck is a LIBOR and why should I care?"

explanation.

LIBOR is an index.  LIBOR stands for London Interbank Offered Rate. It's the interest rate on dollar denominated loans that one London bank might make to another.  London?  As in London,  England?  Yeah.  Weird, eh?

LIBOR is considered a "cost of funds" styled index.  Actually, it's sometimes called one of the best because it tracks the borrowing cost for some of the most credit worthy, well established banks.   Did you know that 20% of all international bank lending goes through the London banking system?

LIBOR is about short term rates.  It deals in loans from overnight to one year out.  The rates are determined by the British Bankers Association (BBA) each day over tea.  Ok, I made the tea part up.  Call it embellishment.

So Mike, what does this have to with mortgages?

LIBOR is widely used as an index for setting the rates on ARM loans, especially of A and Alt-A quality borrowers. 

Remember the math on computing ARM rates?  Index + Margin = Rate.

Also remember that we have a tremendous amount of ARMs in the US that are going to reset in the near future.

Normally, the LIBOR rate follows closely with the federal-funds rate, (which is the overnight lending rate managed by the Federal Reserve). So why is LIBOR going to be the new buzz word?  The two rates are now diverging, (Fed Funds and LIBOR).  Yesterday, the rate hit 5.7%, marking the rate's fastest rise in several years!  That caught the attention of many in the know as well and in doing so the news media.

Why did it bump so dramatically? 

Here's a great quote I found,

"One reason the LIBOR is trading so high is that banks, many of them in Europe, have heavy commitments tied to struggling commercial-paper markets. They are reluctant to lend out dollars, and that is driving up short-term borrowing rates. Some are also worried that their counterparties in these trades, other banks, might be too weak to pay back the loans!"

Lock that last statement into the back of your mind.  Too weak to pay back loans?  The LIBOR is short term right?  Overnight to 12 months out.  These big multinational banks are worried that other big multinational banks might not be able to cover their payments in the over the next year?

So now you know more than the guy in next cubicle about LIBOR.  Heck, you may now know more about LIBOR than your last loan officer.  That's a scary thought isn't it?


Comments(10)

Laura Jecker
Prudential New Jersey Properties - Vernon, NJ

Incredible,

Thank you for the lesson in LIBOR. And who is regulating these banks?  LOL

Sep 06, 2007 02:42 AM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Laura - Good question, I'll hazard to guess it's the Knight's who say Nee


Sep 06, 2007 03:03 AM
Thomas Weiss
Thomas R. Weiss - West Palm Beach, FL

Mike,

The pay option Arms deal with the Index and Margin, and I think thats where the less expirenced brokers, Messed up, they didn't understand how these worked, and these are what we are supposed to be trained in, it's really sad.. Good Post on Libors though!!!

Tom Weiss

Sep 06, 2007 03:21 AM
Kim Murphy
Draper and Kramer - Lombard, IL
Mortgage Loans in DuPage, Kane, Cook, Lake, Will C
Mike, Awesome job explaining LIBOR!  Love the BBA meeting over tea!
Sep 06, 2007 06:49 AM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Thomas - I just realized I should have mentioned that the Index changes, the Margin does not.  oh, well. On a POA the big problem is the difference between the underlying note rate and the teaser rate.  Most POA's I've seen have larger than average Margins - that's a bad thing.  On the other hand, most POA's are probably based on different indexes.  COFI, COSI, CODI MAT, MTA and the like.  Traditional ARMs have either a Treasury or LIBOR as their index.  I don't think I've seen a POA based of the 1 yr T-Note - have you?

Kim - Did you write that with your pinky finger out?   Just checking.


 

Sep 06, 2007 06:57 AM
Thomas Weiss
Thomas R. Weiss - West Palm Beach, FL

Mike-  Your right, I may have mixed apples and oranges, the MTA was the most common, that I saw, in the POA market, I have never seen the option arm based off of the 1 year Treasury Note, because of their short terms, and their margins are strangely high, So that was a good question.. your extremely detailed, I would feel comfortable doing a Mortgage with you... Great explanations :0)

Tom Weiss

Sep 06, 2007 07:18 AM
Gary Miljour
American Financial Network, Inc. NMLS#207208 - Southern Pines, NC
Mortgage Originator NMLS Licensed in AZ and NC

Mike,

Thanks for sharing this.  I have not been watching the indices that close and did not know this.  We have a lot of clients who will need to refinance out of these loans in the next 12 months. 

Sep 06, 2007 12:26 PM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Thomas - as always thank you!

Gary - They might, and then they might not.  What is there Margin?  Caps?  Payment tolerance?  Overall, nationally yes you are correct.  As you know, not everyone who has an adjustable needs to refi out.  There are very good ARMs out there, always have been.


Sep 06, 2007 01:02 PM
Lisa Hill
Florida Property Experts - Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Beach Real Estate
OK. I think I got it. But now my brain hurts again.
Sep 06, 2007 01:47 PM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Excellent, excellent, work Mike.  If this isn't a 5, I don't know what is.

Sep 07, 2007 03:49 AM