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Regarding the Golfing Buddy Who Wants to Buy Your House

By
Managing Real Estate Broker with Howard Hanna Rand Realty License # 49FA1074963

A commitment to playing, even in the rain.There is a real estate axiom I was reminded of recently by Bill Lublin that goes like this: every piece of privately owned property in the country is for sale. It might not be listed, but it's for sale. If you knock on the owner's door and offer them market value plus enough of a premium, you get the keys. It could be a dollar, it could be $4 million. But if you offer someone enough money, they'll sell. 

There is a corollary to this, which is, of course, that everyone is a buyer if they can get a good enough deal. I am not currently looking for a beachfront property or a condo in Manhattan, but if you deed one over to me for my pool table and $500, I'll sign today. 

There are two kinds of buyers in any market. Those that are looking, and those that aren't. Those buyers who are looking are probably willing to pay market value. Those that aren't looking, well... do I have to tell you?

If you have an acquaintance who expresses interest in your home over golf or cocktails, you should ask yourself first why they are just finding out about it at golf or happy hour. Strange, no? Because someone who is looking would know you are for sale if they have a pulse (especially if you are listed with me). What does this tell us? Your friend will buy your place. And he'll clean your clock. Because the only reason he'll close is if he can get a steal. 

If you have a buyer for your property the real work begins in many ways. It isn't all downhill after a meeting of the minds necessarily, because many of these accidental buyers are among the most difficult I have ever dealt with.

  • They could not be as qualified as they think they are, because they haven't bothered to speak to a lender yet. 
  • They might not be very cooperative, because they think they are doing you a favor. This can create havoc in a transaction, because unresponsive or entitled buyers frankly suck. 
  • You could ruin your friendship. Ever do business with a friend? 
Someone who expresses casual interest in your home in an unconventional setting does not make things easier for you or your agent. We still have to navigate contracts, inspections, financing, title and code compliance, the foibles of humans in a high dollar transaction and plenty of other pitfall-laden territory. For these and many other reasons they aren't an automatic exclusion or reduction with your broker, and they may not end up being "the one." But an expensive distraction? I've had plenty of those. 

In New York virtually all listing agreements stipulate that sellers will refer all interested parties to the broker. If there is a sale there, I'll make it. And if there is a headache or distraction to avoid, I'll weed it out. There is fools gold in any industry, and in ours it often comes from casual interest from acquaintances who were never looking to begin with, but would pause a brief moment for a steal at your expense. 

 


Gay E. Rosen
Julia B. Fee Sotheby's International Realty - Larchmont, NY
As Real as Real Estate Gets!

Phil - excellent post.. How mnay times as we heard that a 'friend called them' and is interested in the house.... and then they disappear but throw enough wrenches into the works by stating 'the house is underpriced' ' why hasn't it sold yet - it is such a great house'  "I would love this house' and on and on...

Jun 14, 2011 04:43 AM
Cory Barbee
San Diego, CA
Broker (760) 563-4022

Nice post...I like talking to people who are too smart for their own good...I like to just call them out in the first 30 seconds of that conversation and just look at the expression on their faces....it sucks for them when they come accross an intelligent agent.

Jun 14, 2011 05:16 AM
Tim Maitski
Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage - Atlanta, GA
Truth, Excellence and a Good Deal

Good post.  It's so true that there is a buyer for everything, it all depends on  price.

Jun 14, 2011 05:36 AM
Mike Jones
SUNSTREET MORTGAGE, LLC (BK-0907366, NMLS 145171) - Tucson, AZ
Mike Jones NMLS 223495

Phil,

I particularly like the line that says "...if there is a headache or distraction to avoid, I'll weed it out."  A big part of a REALTOR's value is just that ~ running interference for the seller.  Congratulations on the feature!

Mike in Tucson

Jun 14, 2011 06:01 AM
Margaret Goss
@Properties - Winnetka, IL
Chicago's North Shore & Winnetka Real Estate

There is also the "buyer" who seems to be interested just as you're about to sign the listing agreement.  I've had to explain that NO, this buyer cannot indefinetely wait on the sidelines while we list and market the home. 

Jun 14, 2011 06:12 AM
Brad Rachielles
CENTURY 21 Peak, Ca BRE# 01489453 - Upland, CA
REALTOR, CDPE, Upland, CA

Very good perspective. Have never run into one of those surprise buyers or sellers. I'll be watching.

That original revelation of the surprise buyer should indicate that the purchase may not be as easy as the friendship would suggest and that the seller requires the same treatment be given the friend that he gives a stranger.

Jun 14, 2011 06:48 AM
Kathy Stankard
Coldwell Banker, Franklin,MA/508-369-5131 - Franklin, MA
Years of Experience, Years of Results

Wow, do I want to find those kind of friends?

Jun 14, 2011 07:20 AM
Anonymous
Brian Park

Of course most of the time unsolicited buyers are a waste of time but there is that once in a while one.

My first experience was a young man showed up at my front door and asked if he could go through the house because he grew up there and wanted to look at it once again. After I checked him out I walked him through the house he said his happiest years were in that house and asked if we would sell it, I added 25% to FMV to chase him away and he said yes he would take it could he move in by x date.. I found out he had started a business and was making large money and he paid us cash, he wanted to live in that house again.

Another time I was with friends at a bar watching a 49er game, and a guy overheard I was a real estate broker and asked if he could get X dollars for his house. I told him I was familiar with the outside of his house and if it was like I thought inside he could get close to that amount in the current market and proceeded to watch the game knowing most of these type contacts are just conversation and no real intent. As this guy left the bar he told me if I had a buyer bring them by if they might pay what he wants. Well the real estate gods were smiling on me that day as I sat down in the food section to eat, another guy that had been watching the game sat down and said he loved that bar and couldn't wait to move to the area. He really wanted to move there and after the game I went with him to the potential seller and knocked on his door and asked if he was serious and if so could we go through the home. Result, we sat down at the kitchen table and one sold home.

Yes they are rare but they happen, thank goodness. Just make it a point to qualify them chop-chop and decide if your going to waste any time at all with them.

Jun 14, 2011 07:28 AM
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Roger Roberge
RR and Company Realty, LLC / www.rrandcompany.com - Wilbraham, MA
MA/CT Broker, e-Pro

Lots of people think they can sell their house without the assistance of a qualified professional.  Sure, you might... but at what cost?  Time?  Money?  Friendships? (Like you said)  I see this more from people who are well connected or have a large network of associates.  I think your post covers most of the pitfalls very well.  Thanks!

Jun 14, 2011 08:14 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Really good point.  That casual acquaintance would already know about the home if they were a serious buyer.

Jun 14, 2011 09:03 AM
Susan Gaieski
Water Pointe Realty Group - Jupiter, FL
Director for Social Media & Technology

J Philip... yes this has happened to me on a few occasions.  I ask them to come on in the office and let's get the paperwork done.... boy does that work fast.... you should hear the excuses... thanks for the post.

Jun 14, 2011 09:23 AM
Lloyd Binen
Certified Realty Services - Saratoga, CA
Silicon Valley Realtor since 1976; 408-373-4411

J. Philip, Everyone's a buyer and everyone's a seller until price is discussed.

I love the picture of the kids playing barefoot in the rain with their umbrellas.  That's priceless.

Jun 14, 2011 10:27 AM
Gabrielle Kamahele Rhind
KGC Properties LLC, Tucson Property Management & Real Estate - Tucson, AZ
Broker/Owner

HI J PHILIP!  My husband always says, anything is for sale if the price is right!  Every once in a while, I find out the most casual "asker" can be the most serious - seems they spent time thinking about buying or selling!

Jun 14, 2011 10:28 AM
Doug and Teresa Johnson
Virtual Properties Realty.net - Atlanta, GA

Friends can hurt their friends with their casual remarks. Sellers will turn on us in a minute to save a dollar. Facts of our business... sad but true.....

Jun 14, 2011 02:57 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

I like your corollary about buyers more than Bill Lubin's Real Estate Axiom.

I visit a Hindu Temple on Saturdays -  and many of them know, I am in Real Estate. You know the question they'd ask me, week after week....and my answer to them is not 'it depends' like many gurus teach us! Seriously, it's the season for weeds to grow and for us to use pasticides for those weeds.

Jun 14, 2011 03:17 PM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

Thanks to Praful for his reblog of your feature.

I have heard this tale when buyer's come to my listings. Yes they have a home to sell but their neighbor, boss, doctor, poker buddy, friend, aunt's uncle has knows the buyer..not to worry. It will be sold in no time.

Margaret

Jun 14, 2011 03:40 PM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Phil, never thought of it that way - that everything is for sale and that everyone could be a buyer. At some point, everyone will sell if the price is right. There is an orange grove next to one of only two public boat ramps to the Butler Chain of Lakes in the SW Orlando area of Windermere (think Tiger Woods, Shaquille O'Neal, Mark O'Meara, Arnold Palmer, etc.). The city desparaately needs parking since a new shopping center took the overflow. The family won't sell. Guess the $$$ hasn't been right yet..

Sharon

Jun 14, 2011 03:45 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

J. Philip - If you know someone who wants to sell beach front property for $500 plus a pool table, sign me up (as long as it isn't in Arizona ; )

 

Seriously, I think there are many valid points in your post.

Jun 14, 2011 06:05 PM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

This is such a great blog and a topic not often touched.  I can't tell you how many people sat around waiting on friends or family to make an offer on their home because they said they were interested.  And rarely does it happen.

Jun 14, 2011 10:49 PM
Christine Hooks
Pino Agency - Pennsville, NJ
Celebrating 25 Years in Real Estate!

Well said, Philip...well said.

Jun 20, 2011 03:13 PM