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New Good Faith Estimate (GFE) And Truth In Lending (TIL)

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Mortgage and Lending with George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages NMLS #65149

After almost two years since the new Good Faith Estimate (GFE) and Truth In Lending (TIL) have gone into effect, Washington is coming to the realization that everyone in the Lending Industry came to the minute that the revised forms were unveiled.  The Lending Industry has been stating for almost two years that these forms do not do what they were meant to do.  In fact these two forms not only fall short of what they were intended to do, they may even be accomplishing the opposite.

The reasoning behind the new GFE & TIL was to bring about more transparency.  So the new GFE went from a one page document to a three page document, and the TIL from a one page document to a two page document.  The TIL may have actually moved closer to accomplishing the intent of the document, but it still fell short, but at least it was a step towards more transparency.  The GFE on the other hand was a completely different story.  Here are some of the reasons why:

 

  • No where on the form is the Loan Program Listed (it was on the old form)
  • The total monthly payment (principal, interest, taxes, insurance, & MI) is not disclosed.  Only the principle, interest, and if applicable, MI are disclosed.  Borrowers want to know what their total monthly payment is going to be and not just the principal, interest, and MI (the total payment was disclosed on the old form)
  • Many of the fees are not individually disclosed, but grouped into one total (they were all individually listed on the old form).  Example:
    • Lenders Fees are combined and given as one total
    • Title Insurance and Attorney Fees are combined and given as one total.
    • Escrow for Tax and Insurance are combined and given as one total.

 

So now Washington has finally come to the realization that if they want more disclosure and transparency, that they need to talk with, and listen to the advice of those who work with these document daily.  The new effort is to combined the GFE and TIL into one document, and to clearly state, and provide the transparency that was intend with the present documents. 

The drafting of this new document is underway, with hope to roll it out in the near future.  I for one am looking forward to seeing what it looks like, and will reserve judgment until I see it.  But if the points that I made up above are address and correct, this documents will make a marked improvement to finally start to provide the transparency that is long over do in the Lending Industry.

 

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Comments(108)

John Cannata
214-728-0449 http://TexasLoanGuy.com - Frisco, TX
Texas Home Mortgage - Purchase or Refinance

They other key thing to note about the new GFE form... there is no where to sign the form. Sure, the borrower signs a letter that reads they 'received the GFE' but who is to say that the lender gave the right GFE or did not change anything? It would make more sense to have the signature right there on the form.

Sep 19, 2011 06:58 AM
Jim McCormack
Nashville Short Sale Specialist - Jim McCormack - Edge Advantage Realty, LLC - 615-796-6898 - Murfreesboro, TN
Nashville Short Sale REALTOR - Stop Foreclosure

Thank you for the heads up.

Sep 19, 2011 07:03 AM
Vickie Nagy
Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate - Palm Springs, CA
Vickie Jean the Palm Springs Condo Queen

I tend to rather know the details. For example I want my tax and insurance funds separately. Like you, however, I reserve judgement.

Sep 19, 2011 07:13 AM
Richard Dolbeare
Inactive - Wailuku, HI
Living the Hawaii Lifestyle

I've always had the opinion that forms were meant to help us rather than be our masters.  The forms in question are our masters.

Sep 19, 2011 07:48 AM
Stacey Mayer
Snohomish-Homes.com - Everett, WA
Snohomish-Homes.com

Good to know. Forms should be something we can trust, not something to be suspicious of.

Sep 19, 2011 07:58 AM
Jirius Isaac
Isaac Real Estate &TriStar Mortgage - Kenmore, WA
Real Estate & loans in Kenmore, WA

I have all the confidence in the world that they will screw it up again.  This is what we spend all our tax dollars for after all!

Sep 19, 2011 08:16 AM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

The bureaucrat that though that things would be simplified and more transparent by making the form longer is a complete moron.

Sep 19, 2011 08:52 AM
Kathleen Sheridan
WEICHERT, REALTORS ® - McCarthy Associates - Philadelphia, PA

George,

Thanks for providing this update. It's true. We knew from the minute we saw the present GFE that it wasn't done well. 

Sep 19, 2011 09:28 AM
Peggy Chirico
Prudential CT Realty - Manchester, CT
REALTOR® 860-748-8900, Hartford & Tolland County Real Estate

Hi George - It's really coincidental that this weekend I was looking over the GFE and TIL from two different lenders for someone and I thought it was not helpful that the forms weren't the same so it made comparing very difficult.  When they make up new forms, I hope that everyone uses the same one so it will be easier to compare.  Congratulations on another great featured article!

Sep 19, 2011 09:38 AM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

should we expect antyhing less form Washington???  Most in Washington believe that GFE is an acronym for GirlFriend Experience!!! LOL

Sep 19, 2011 09:46 AM
minette goldsmith
Fairway Independent Mortgage - Oro Valley, AZ

Your points are good, but in addition to that you have the arbitrary time constraints that make lenders crazy!  When you lock the loan, even if it is the same rate you initially disclosed, and you blow the 3 days- oh my! you are out of compliance!  They create havoc as the borrower wonders why he keeps getting so much mail!  

Sep 19, 2011 09:48 AM
DEBORAH STONE
Balboa Real Estate San Diego, CA - San Diego, CA

It's a start for sure. Thanks for explaining.

Sep 19, 2011 11:50 AM
Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, Broker/Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Huntsville AL - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

George, first of congrats on a well deserved feature...you really said what so many have been thinking.  I surprised that it's taken this long for the powers that be to realize what a mess that made of it.  The new UAD for appraisers...in my opinion...is going down the same path.

Sep 19, 2011 12:28 PM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

This is great.  Please keep us updated.  Thanks for the post.

Sep 19, 2011 01:17 PM
Mark Pease
First Commerce Credit Union - Tallahassee, FL

By GEORGE you have it!

Sep 19, 2011 02:49 PM
Michael Singh,Broker
Singh Real Estate - Corral de Tierra, CA

I hope its an improvement 

Sep 20, 2011 07:43 AM
EMILIA B COOPER, REALTOR® SFR.NCHSE.AHWD
LAROSA REALTY - Orlando, FL
Short Sales, Foreclosure & Bank Owned Real Estate

Great Post!! Thank you for sharing George!

Sep 20, 2011 06:13 PM
Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

It's the old -we're from the government,we're here to help you ! Taking 1 page forms up to 2-3 pages should have been their first clue !

Sep 21, 2011 02:05 AM
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

"In fact these two forms not only fall short of what they were intended to do, they may even be accomplishing the opposite."

This is exactly true.  The new GFE drives me absolutely crazy.  Even after two years and doing transaction after transaction I still think it's confusing and definitely not easier or more transparent. The fact that fees are "bundled" and aren't listed separately is ridiculous.  -Kasey

Oct 02, 2011 03:56 PM
Esko Kiuru
Bethesda, MD

George,

It is a head-scratcher, to put it mildly. You just wonder how it ever got approved. There are knowledgeable mortgage people in the government.

Oct 07, 2011 03:21 PM