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I'm Sorry * Bullying ME Does Not Get YOU the Keys to My Client's Property

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Property Manager with Gibson Management Group, Ltd.

I showed a nice lady a condo last week that is perfect for her and her trans-plant husband moving into the area for new new Job.

She met the nice "adult" neighbor and she was going to call her husband to view the home online ASAP.

About an hour later, I get a call from her that they want their family trust to be the tenant and while I said I would take anyone's check, she and her husband would be required to complete applications.  I gave her application forms and advised her that her husband could download one from my website.

Fast forward 5 days and I get an INCOMPLETE application IN THE MAIL from their SON who is in charge of their family trust.  The application has no financial information * does not contain the parents' names AND is POORLY written.

I called him when I received his application and left a message that 1) I need paperwork from his parents; and 2) I need them ASAP if they want to complete the process by their anticipated move-in date.

An hour later, I received a phone call from the father saying that they did not want to complete the application paperwork, that it asked for too much personal and financial information (HUH?) and that they would not be the tenants.  He proceeded to raise his voice at me when I suggested that I could not do my business that way and protect my client from my giving keys to NON-screened residents.


He indicated that he or his son had never seen such a rental process as it was intrusive.  

I am very sorry for his attitude and it is doubly unfortunate that he did not review my process online while his wife was still in the area looking for rental homes.

Yelling at me, belittling my process and BULLYING won't get him the keys to this very nice rental unit without ME doing my job and screening them. 

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Wallace S. Gibson is a Certified Property Manager with over 50 years of property management experience and expertise.  She maintains a specialized property management business in Central Virginia serving Albemarle, Greene, Fluvanna and Louisa counties  

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Comments(64)

Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi Wallace, sounds like the phone call screened out that tenant automaticallly.

Oct 15, 2012 02:42 AM
David Evans
RE/MAX TOWN AND COUNTRY - Cumming, GA
HUD NLB Cumming GA

We treat all prospects the same and the guidelines are also. When people act like bullies, the outcome is their fault. Excellent post and good for you to hold the line. ;)

Oct 15, 2012 03:11 AM
Rob Renk
Center Street Lending - McKinney, TX
AE | Fast Fix/Flip Loans for Residential Investors

What you were asking for was not out of line and it is good thatyou stood your ground.

Oct 15, 2012 03:12 AM
Jennifer Spanbauer Brodoway
Lethbridge Real Estate.com - Lethbridge, AB
just call jen

Well, it's good that you don't have to deal with them anymore.  Too bad about the time you have already invested.

Oct 15, 2012 04:20 AM
Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

The process used in Texas is similar to your process.  Something was not right about this transaction!  You are fortunate that you have a process in place to protect your clients!

Oct 15, 2012 05:35 AM
M. Lynn Delatte
Developers Realty - Broadview Heights, OH

You have to protect your clients. That means having the information to know if the tenants can pay the rent, and will do so.  Can you imagine having them as tenants?  What would they do if there were any problems?  What if they caused the problem?  Continue to protect your clients from renters like this.

Oct 15, 2012 06:00 AM
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Wallace,

 

I think you dodged a bullet by not being able to rent to those people.

Oct 15, 2012 06:01 AM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

So glad this got featured!  Some people are so rude.   I guess they just think they are above the rules the rest of us have to live by.   If it were their property that was being leased, I'm sure they would want the screening process!

Oct 15, 2012 06:47 AM
Ric Mills
Keller Williams Southern Az - Tucson, AZ
Integrity, Honesty, and Vast Real Estate Knowledge

Greaqt job. Obviously either they don't undersatnd the process or just like to try and bully their way  in.  Great job protecting your clients.

Oct 15, 2012 07:26 AM
Spectrum Inspection Group
Spectrum Inspection Group - Las Vegas, NV

That sounds like a pretty NORMAL application process to me lol.  Sounds like they were trying to do something suspicious..

Oct 15, 2012 08:46 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

That IS a very normal application process and the same one we use.  I would have done the same thing.  You go girl!

Oct 15, 2012 09:36 AM
Virginia (Ginger) Schott
Cabins & Canoes - Port Jervis, NY
Assoc. Broker, CBR, CHMS

No Credit check no Renatl Application filled out no lease or keys. 

Oct 15, 2012 10:05 AM
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

My guess is they ahve things to hide that woiuld probably disqualify them, or make it hard for them to get approved? Tenants like that aren't worth the hassle that comes along with dealing with them on a regular basis.

Oct 15, 2012 10:03 PM
Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

I would not have put up with the son and husband had I not liked her and wanted to help her...they are back to square one I suspect.

Oct 15, 2012 11:26 PM
C. Lloyd McKenzie
Living Albuquerque - Albuquerque, NM
Living Albuquerque

Good Morning Wallace,

That interesting, if he felt like it was too intrusive, what's the big deal?  All he has to do is go try to rent from another company.  He will soon realize that he does not qualify to rent with anyone

Oct 16, 2012 01:09 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

It sounds to me that this guy has something to hide. Funny how some people think they can "win through intimidation."

Oct 16, 2012 02:50 AM
Nan Jester
Exit Real Estate Gallery Jacksonville Beach, FL - Jacksonville Beach, FL
Realtor, Exit Real Estate Gallery

It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant the public is of the process we must follow to do our job.

Oct 16, 2012 05:56 AM
Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

I went as far as I did * calling son on Sunday AM * because I knew the mother wanted the unit.  That may have made me look anxious to get the unit rented; however, I really wanted to get their applications in first before others showed up since there was a 5 day delay 

Oct 16, 2012 07:29 AM
Brad Baylor
ERA Coup Agency - Milton, PA

Wallace - There's a lot of red flags here to consider.  You are absolutely right in protecting your clients in this manner, and no, bullying does not work with me either.  Whenever it starts, I remain calm, wait for an opportunity, and then ask "are you having a bad day today?  Would you like to talk about it?"  This has always worked for me.  The bully seems to calm down immediately and begins speaking in a normal voice, and we can usually work something out.

Oct 17, 2012 12:44 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Even if they do complete the application the behavior should be a real Red Flag.

Oct 19, 2012 08:28 AM