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For Realtors: Realtor spam, where it comes from & how to SLOW it down.

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc

Spam, defined as “Unsolicted mass email,” is on the rise and it is directly impacting how tech savvy Realtors do business. The old days of "just delete it" or  expecting a spam filter to be flawless are gone. Now spam gets routed to cell phones interrupting business and the spam filters frequently contain real clients, or they block legitimate emails from getting through. Spam lowers profits and wastes a sizable amount of time.

Some think that there is nothing that can be done to stop it. They are right. But there are some new techniques that you can use to drastically reduce your incoming spam going forward.

The first step is figuring out where your spam comes from, then you can figure out how to reduce it.

Most of spam comes from the cultivation of email addresses by “spam spiders” that will troll the Internet looking for the @ sign. They then take those emails and sell them off to spammers.

Where are spammers getting your email address?

  1. Google it!  First try googling your own email address. If it is out there even once, you might consider starting over with a new email address. If you have your own domain name, it should be free to set up a new forwarding account. Instead of lastname@YourFancyDomain.com maybe you would start over with homes@ or Firstname@. The old email would be phased out over the next year and ultimately deleted or set up with an autoreply saying how to contact you (don't put an email address in that autoreply)
  2. Your website! Many websites publish the owner's email address in the format: you@YourFancyDomain.com That address can easily be picked up by the spiders and resold. What you need to do is use a web-based contact form that will shelter your email address. Be aware that some forms expose your email in the code, and the spiders can just as easily get that address. Look under “View” and “Source” in your web browser to see if you find the @ symbol in the underlying code.
  3. A partner's website. If the website (like Homesdatabase.com) requires a published email address, another solution is to create an email that is just published on that website (not on business cards) and only lasts 6 months. Such as Homesearch@YourFancyDomain.com. Proceed to have that email address forward to your main address. Once you start getting spam on that email address, you can delete it and create a new one. The spam to that address will no longer get through and the likelihood that somebody still has that email written manually down on paper is minimal. Meanwhile your main email address remains clean.
  4. Your MLS system! Many systems such as the MRIS give access to the entire MLS database including email addresses to “partners.” While they don't directly sell email addresses, they do receive payment for supplying all the data including email addresses. The partners are supposed to be self regulated and use the data according to MRIS's terms of use. If you have created an email such as YournameFromMRIS@...com you can be fairly certain that any spam to that address was leaked from MRIS and possibly resold to other spammers. All you need is for one partner to resell the email portion to a spammer and your email will get spammed. I change my MRIS email address every 6 months and I kill off the old address. I have reported many incidents where I was able to trace the spam back to MRIS.
  5. Your association! Your local Realtor association probably has a great privacy policy stating that they don't sell your email address when you turn it in upon registration. Problem is that that data is not sold, but given for free to VAR and NAR. At that point it is released to the public via the website when searching for Realtors. They also end up in the hands of resellers and thus result in Realtor related “targeted” spam. You can curb your spam by giving them an address that you can change every 6 months such as Assoc@YourFancyDomain.com

 

 

With mutliple free forwarding accounts you can start to see exactly how and where your email address is being redistributed and shut down that avenue of spam. When I get emails to FrankEmailedFromMLS@.....com I know how the email got out. Also never “Opt out” from a spammer that you never opted in for, as it oftentimes just confirms your email address and places a higher value on your email since it is not “confirmed.”

 

Realtor to Realtor spam. Help stop it!

While emailing is so easy and cheap, we as Realtors still need to be aware of not spamming other Realtors. Even though we are all in the same business, an email to all 10,000 NVAR Realtors about your listing in West Virginia, or a $50k piece of land in Alexandria, is still spam. Just think of it this way, if every Realtor sent out an email to every Realtor each time they had a listing, our email system would be completely unusable. This is why the MLS was created, so we can search for what we want and not have it jammed down our throat with Open House spam. So be respectful and limit emails to maybe 5 highly targeted Realtors that you think really might want your information. A mass email to over 5 in my book is spam.

 

 Quick steps to a clean 2007 and onward:

 

  1. Consider starting over with a new main email address with the goal of keeping it near-spam-free. This email address would never get used on the web. This includes when you are buying online, on your website, partner websites etc.. You can still get emails from your old address for another year or two, but start phasing it out.
  1. Set up 2 or 3 temporary email addresses that forward to your new main account. Use these online until the spam starts rolling in. At that point, shut it off and create a new account or set up an autoreply that says that the email address has been phased out due to spam and to call you or go to your web-form to contact you.

  2. Use a graphic as your email address. If you still want to publish your email address on your website consider converting it to a graphic. Instead of text that a spider can see, make your email address a graphic. You can do this by taking a screen shot of your website, pull that into a photo software and crop around your email address. Save it as a GIF and you will have your email address as a spam resistant graphic. Spiders can not see a graphic (as long as you don't make the graphic a link to an email address, which would defeat the purpose). A spammer would have to personally see your email address and add it manually to a spam list, which isn't as likely as a spider cultivating text.

  3. Complain to those distributing your email address. (email me if you want names) Many organizations such as MRIS do not make fighting spam a top priority because not enough people have expressed that this is a problem. My theory is that members that are getting spamed don't know how the spammers were getting their address, so how can they complain to the right place? However, if you change your email to IGotSpammedViaXYZ@YOurDOmain.com they won't be able to deny that they were the leak.

  4. Request that NVAR's Board addresses Realtor to Realtor spam. Have them create a
    policy and make that known to the members that spam is not acceptable. Define
    it, vote on it. "Spam is X number of unsolicited emails" Is that number 2,
    5, 10, 100? I don't know. I should be able to write to ONE person that I
    admire and say "would you like to work with me" but an entire office? Or “hey you are the Alexandria king, I am about to list a place...”, but not to ever agent that has every listed a place in the 5 mile radius.
What do you think?? Do you know where your spam is coming from? How do you fight it?

 

Frank Borges LL0SA- Broker in Virginia

Blog.FranklyRealty.com

YouTube.FranklyRealty.com 

 

PS. For those of your new to spam, here are a couple more common techniques readdressed:

  1. I use a spam filter software called Spambayes for Outlook. There are many other versions, but this one takes results from millions of customers to decide what is spam. It is NOWHERE NEAR foolproof, but it routes your spam to a folder for you to check once a day vs every 15 minutes in your inbox. Some things do slip past the filter.
  1. Never reply to a spammer to get "removed", nor click on the opt out button.

  2. If you have one particularly bad spammer, look to see if you can lock entire domains with your internet hosting account. Like block LL@SomeBadDomain.com

 

Nick M.
Certified Residential Appraiser- West Palm Beach Real Estate - West Palm Beach, FL
Realtor-Appraiser in West Palm-South Florida Real Estate Appraiser

Hey Frank.. Your points are right on. Most people dont know about email harvesting, etc. You highlighted the way to do it and why.. so its very informative for those who are clueless.  THANKS!! I'm not the only one!! I feel better knowing that others are so 'picky' about spam and email addy's. I used to constantly scold people who add to my spam.

You are right on about 'opting out' (which only verifies that its a valid addy).

This is a 'sensitive' subject to me.. so I guess you just inspired me to write a post about it.. with a link back to this post as well!! 

see you around Frank!! :))
West Palm Beach Real Estate Appraiser

Jan 17, 2007 04:57 AM
James Clark
Real Estate Professional - Potomac, MD

A more definitive explanation of SPAM involves more so the behavior and intent of the email message rather than the fact that it was sent without the recipient's knowledge or request, in my opinion. Moreover, the quantitative value of the term "mass" is subjective and may vary from individual to individual. As noted in your opinion, any "mass" email distribution with more than 5 recipients should be considered SPAM. I disagree and would not describe any email distribution with under 500 recipients to be a "mass" mailing. As I mentioned, it is subjective.

The traditional definition of "spamming" is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to send unsolicited, undesired bulk messages. The term SPAM, then refers to the actual email message sent and received in such an action. Sending unsolicited email messages does not constitute an abuse of electronic messaging systems by itself. An example of "spamming" would be attempting to attack an email system under the form of a denial of service ("DoS") tactic. Other examples of email abuse or spamming include advertising fraudulent products, pornography, unlicensed computer software, pills such as Viagra, quack medications and get-rich-quick schemes. In these cases, it is apparent that the content and intent of the email plays a larger role in it's categorization as "SPAM." The fact these messages are unsolicited is only one minor aspect that may indicate the email is SPAM-oriented. Email messages containing computer viruses and worms are SPAM products and should be shunned and banned. Unsolicited emails with a legitimate, legal business intent shouldn't be considered SPAM, in my opinion, as long as they are sent in accordance with federal and state legislation such as the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (Public Law 108-187). [1]

I feel it is important to highlight these characteristics in order to distinguish SPAM from legitimate emails stemming from legitimate email marketing campaigns.

Email marketing is one of the strongest, cost-effective marketing tools available to businesses of all types and sizes. Email marketing is 20 times more cost effective than direct mail, and can cost as little as a penny per email. Moreover, a business can easily segment its mailing lists using a variety of criteria or interest groups so that promotions go to the individuals most likely to respond to an offer. An offer can be a product or can simply be an invitation to visit a website to learn more about something of interest. Email marketing enables a business to proactively communicate with an existing customer base and also reach potential prospects.

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[1] http://www.spamlaws.com/federal/108s877.shtml

Jan 17, 2007 06:41 AM
Tricia Jumonville
Bradfield Properties - Georgetown, TX
Texas REALTOR , Agent With Horse Sense

Christian, your opinion is not the prevailing one, based on my experience.  Just about every spammer thinks that people are just panting to receive their valuable information regarding something they have for sale that will "help" them with their "problem" (in my case, frequently, I'm clearly dying for information on how to enlarge organs that I don't even have and other such things, but it is also frequently information on how to finalize my loan that I didn't apply for by just clicking and completing the information they requested or how to buy a house with a loan that I KNOW is a bad idea or any number of other such things).  Since most every spammer thinks what they're sending isn't spam and is greatly desired by at least some of the recipients, motivation of the spammer is nowhere near being the defining characteristic of spam. 

Spam is Unsolicited Commercial Email.  Unsolicited means that you didn't request it.  If you have to opt out, then it's spam, no matter what the statutes might say, and it's really likely to backfire if you're trying to get someone to trust you enough to use you for their real estate agent or loan officers.  It can be reported, with complete headers, to spam@uce.gov (new address - their old one probably had to be changed due to receiving too much spam!) - that's the FTC and they collect this information in order to help Congress write appropriate anti-spam legislation and as evidence against spammers. 

Saying "This isn't spam" doesn't make spam something other than what it is - never has, never will.

Jan 17, 2007 07:40 AM
Nick M.
Certified Residential Appraiser- West Palm Beach Real Estate - West Palm Beach, FL
Realtor-Appraiser in West Palm-South Florida Real Estate Appraiser

with Frank's permission, no disrespect..  Tricia.. you killed me with the organ comment..  HA HA.. I wish I could make that HA HA bigger, because it deserves it.

Jan 17, 2007 07:53 AM
Tricia Jumonville
Bradfield Properties - Georgetown, TX
Texas REALTOR , Agent With Horse Sense

Thanks, Nick!  I muyst say I do sometimes wonder of the Ghost of Freud is out there sending me spam. ;-)

 

Jan 17, 2007 07:58 AM
Nick M.
Certified Residential Appraiser- West Palm Beach Real Estate - West Palm Beach, FL
Realtor-Appraiser in West Palm-South Florida Real Estate Appraiser

Frank.. we just hijacked your post!!!! By the way.. you got a link back to your post from mine. >not intended to be spam< Welcome to Active Rain, Frank.

Jan 17, 2007 08:04 AM
James Clark
Real Estate Professional - Potomac, MD

Thank you for commenting on my post Tricia. Your point is well understood. However, I am unable to make assumptions on what "just about every" spammer is thinking. But, I do know that there is a difference between the motivations of someone sending 20,000 emails laced with a computer virus and a small business owner sending 100 emails about a free raffle contest at the ABC grocery store down the block next weekend.

Email marketing campaigns are a legal form of business marketing. Whether or not a business is using email marketing in a criminal fashion or a legal manner that is consistent with a business model is a different story.

A few years ago I was working on a technical research project at a local university. The project had a requirement for analysis from competent professionals with domain expertise. We decided to seek out these individuals in the academic communities throughout the country. After much research, I was able to identify 100 IT professors with relevant expertise and was able to send a Request for Participation to them via their email addresses. We received 64 responses and 33 of them were positive. We we able to utilize the analysis they provided from further email surveys and phone discussions. The project was successful.

We felt that our email campaign was legitimate and productive. The research we generated was and is a valuable resource for students at the university. We did not send SPAM, in our opinion.

 

Jan 17, 2007 01:43 PM
Nick M.
Certified Residential Appraiser- West Palm Beach Real Estate - West Palm Beach, FL
Realtor-Appraiser in West Palm-South Florida Real Estate Appraiser

Hey Christian, Its obvious you know a lot about the subject, especially having some hands on experience in email marketing. But the thing is that this post is not so much about email marketing, its about spam.

We have to hide our emails in graphics, behind cgi forms, and we create aliases or filters and use other techniques because of bots that are collecting emails and spamming the crap out of us. I post a listing in the MLS and with a new email/alias and 2 days later I have unsolicited junk in my box. I get copied in the 'TO' field to a bunch of people and then I'm getting junk soon after.   Thats what its about, brother.. spam, where it comes from and how to dogde it. -"I dont want any cialis or viagra or other pills.. and no stock advice please. I'm not investing in it those penny stocks." (me)

Your project sounds like you found people and them emailed a targeted group. Is this correct?
You had 64 responses and 33 positive. I wonder what the other half said.. were they bothered or negative?

 

Jan 17, 2007 02:07 PM
James Clark
Real Estate Professional - Potomac, MD

Thank you Nick and I too understand your SPAM pain. It is such a distraction! One of the measures we took last year to address SPAM was to remove all email addresses from our marketing websites. We replaced them with Contact Forms, which are programmed to send emails from the web server. No email addresses are exposed anywhere. This has greatly reduced the amount of SPAM that we were getting. Once in a while, about every six months or so, someone/thing might attempt to send SPAM via the Contact Form (from some far off country), but this is manageable. My favorite (read sarcasm) used to be the one about the 100 million dollars sitting in a bank account in a country in Africa. This one is not missed!!

This post is/was about SPAM however. I added my comments to this blog because it kicked off a lot of ideas about how SPAM negatively effects business. As the practice of 'spamming' increases, the difficulties in executing a legitimate, successful email marketing campaign also increase. It is important, however, to make the distinction between the two, in my opinion.

In the project activity that I described earlier, yes, the recipients were found and included in a select/targeted group. Our Request for Participation was distributed to the group. I gathered the email addresses by reading papers and dissertations related to our topic, searched on university websites, and browsed through journals. Besides the positive responses, we received requests to be removed from our marketing lists and we received messages that stated the email was not valid. Some may have interpreted our email as SPAM ... its hard to please everybody. As I mentioned, we did not send SPAM, in our opinion.

The CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 legislation is pretty good. I would recommend getting familiar with it if a business ever decided to launch an email marketing campaign. (See news story below)

 

LA-area man first in nation convicted under anti-spam law [1]

LOS ANGELES - A man faces a sentence of up to 101 years in federal prison after being the first person in the U.S. convicted under a federal anti-spam law, authorities said.

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[1]www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/16482522.htm, www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=28260

Jan 18, 2007 04:03 AM
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:. FranklyRealty.com
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

I just started a new group dedicated to stopping spam. It is called Realtors Against Realtor Spam

I hope you will join me.

Frank 

Jan 22, 2007 01:16 PM
Andrew Hodge
Right At Home Realty Inc. - Richmond Hill, ON

Christian, you have a lot of good points.  I think the biggest difference between what you did with your research project and what usually gets counted as spam is that you actually researched who you were contacting and contacted them about something that was relevant and interesting to them, unlike the member enhancing  pill pushers who seem to plague Tricia.  What makes an email spam is very subjective.  To me it is anything that is irrelevant to my life that I did not request, and not from a friend or client, is spam.

So a REALTOR® contacting me for a referral relationship is not spam, but a U.S. Mortgage broker that cannot help my Canadian clients is spam.  Reciprocal link requests from white hat REALTOR® or real estate related websites is not spam, but requests from Black hat sites and non real estate related sites definitely get sent to my spam file.  This is one of the reasons that I like Gmail so much.  It is really easy to mark certain messages as spam and if I mark a similar message more than once it seems to push any future messages, from that person and with similar content, into my spam file which I barely scan through before dumping.

The original definition of what Spam is no longer really holds true.  Now that spam has become such a common occurrence, people are less tolerant of anything that they feel, at the time, is not important to them.  I find that there is even a fair amount of comment spam here on AR, especially over the holidays.  There was huge number of "Jingle bells..... ROAR" posts and not just on several of my blog postings.  As much as I enjoy the season these comments added nothing to the topic and I found them to be a waste of my time (reading and erasing them).  Spam comes in many forms and does not necessarily happen only in high volumes or involving "Growth Stocks" :)

Jan 22, 2007 02:31 PM
Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL

Frank, I got spammed via AgentInfoDownload.com and directly from their website:

The federal CAN-SPAM law (see www.spamlaws.com) allows you to send unsolicited commercial e-mails if these simple rules are followed:
 1. Your subject must be an accurate and honest description of the what the body of your e-mail contains.
 2. You must include instructions or a link to allow the recipient to unsubscribe and opt-out of future e-mails.
 3. Your physical business mailing address must be included in the body of the e-mail.

 How do you like that? 

 - Tchaka Owen
http://tchakaowen.blogspot.com/

 

 

Feb 03, 2007 03:51 PM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services
This was a very informative post. I had no idea there was more one could do to stop spam.  However, it seems it is almost impossible to stop!  The filters do a lot of good -- I just have to make sure I check to see they didn't catch something legitimate.  Thanks for giving me hope.
Feb 11, 2007 12:36 AM
Anonymous
Ruth Gabbard

Aloha Frank...

As an avid website and e-mail user (wouldn't dream of practicing real estate without either!), you have hit upon one of my pet peeves. About 3 years ago I learned everything I could about spam including consulting with various tech people I know. Through what I call a "spam technology cocktail", I went from about 300-400 spam/day to about 5-6/month. 

And yup - you guessed it! Those pesky 5-6/month are from real estate agents and/or affiliate members of our board (Honolulu Board of REALTORS). Part of the problem is that our board used to sell our e-mail addresses. I advised our board this had to stop. NO WHERE had I ever authorized them to sell my e-mail address. They no longer sell them, but the damage was done. HBR's head technology guy has actually told me that if the spam message was good (i.e. a good listing), then it really wasn't spam. Ha!  

I am happy to report that by using my "spam technology cocktail", in a bad month I might get 4-5 spam. In a better month, I get none. Those pesky 4-5 are from agents. Using MarketReach (from CIS Data Systems) and with the blessing of my board, I have a pre-made html e-mail I send to any HBR member or affiliate member who sends spam. It starts with a quote about spam from REALTOR Magazine.

I first try to educate - most agents aren't even aware that what they are sending is spam. If  get a second spam, they get a phone call. If I get a third spam...well, so far that hasn't happened. :-)

 

 

 

Feb 11, 2007 11:05 PM
#19
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:. FranklyRealty.com
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Hey Ruth,

Can you post a blog in my new Realtor Spam group? Maybe post your pre-made template that you send to Realtor spammers.

So do you use outlook? You recommend MarketReach? How many false positives do you get? I use Spambayes, but I need to change. I have one customer's emails that immediately get eaten up and gone forever, not even into the spam folder or delete folder. I see it for a milisecond and it is gone.

 

And for all you Realtors that don't "GET IT" that spam will hurt your regular business when regular email can't get through, you'll see soon enough. You will convert when it hits your pocket.

 

Frank
Feb 12, 2007 01:38 AM
Anonymous
Ruth Gabbard

Hi Frank, I'd be happy to post on your new REALTOR Spam group...but I'm a bit confused. I'm not sure which one that is?

I use Outlook. 

Re: MarketReach...I think all systems like this have false positives. The only time I get those is when I send out a mass mailing to my entire contact database. But on the individual spam e-mails, they're good.

Here's a link to what we send agent spammers (hope this link works in this system - if not, cut and paste). Note that the return e-mail address at the bottom has been removed - after all this is a public forum. LOL

 http://hawaii-properties.com/pdf/emailtemplate.pdf

Aloha,
~ Ruth ~

 

 

 

   

Feb 12, 2007 04:30 PM
#21
Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL

Ruth,

Are you saying that the spammers actually take your email to heart?  I get the feeling that if I sent that down here, most spammers would scoff.  Then again, people walking in Hawaii will actually stop at a redlight at a crosswalk (I was one of the few people who trekked across the street if no cars are visible). 

Thanks for sharing this, I might try to create a cocktail of my own.

 - Tchaka Owen
http://tchakaowen.blogspot.com/

Feb 13, 2007 12:26 AM
Anonymous
Ruth Gabbard

Hi Tchaka:

Yes, most do. I've only had a problem with one. He had hired a company to send the e-mails and couldn't get them to stop. I helped him get them stopped. Again, for most agents and affiliates here I think it's education that's needed most. Of course, YMMV. LOL

Careful on your jaywalking - LOL. I actually have been ticketed twice for jaywalking.

I have found there is no ONE answser to stopping spam. But the "cocktail" method works...at least for me. So far - 4 years and counting - so good.

Aloha,
~ Ruth ~

 

 

   

 

Feb 14, 2007 11:33 AM
#23
Anonymous
Matthew Rathbun
This is a great post.  I'm glad that our mutual friends told me to track down your stuff!
Feb 14, 2008 07:07 AM
#24
Delaware Junk Removal Residential And Commercial Hauling Clean Outs
Delaware Junk Removal 302-530-9186 - Wilmington, DE
Whole House Clean Outs, Basements, Garages, Attics

You know whats funny?  I just flagged a spam post on this spam blog.  balls!

Apr 01, 2010 04:30 PM