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I'm Walkin, Not Payin!

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Mortgage and Lending with Christensen Financial Mortgage 385907

I have never seen this phenomenon as prevalent in the marketplace as it is today.

Many homeowners are just packin' it in and abandoning their property.

WOW!

From my point of view we have two distinct categoies.

We have the homeowners, and we have the houseowners, those who bought houses for investments. I do hope you can recognize the difference.

Homeowners:

The homeowners bought properties for themselves and their families. While it may seem corny to some, they were reaching out for a piece of the American Dream. Going for the brass ring, so to speak. And, they got it, or so they thought. At the time of their purchases they were all smiles. They just couldn't be happier.

How things change!

Now, for many after struggling mightily and trying every way possible, they have given up. Yes, they might have refinanced once, or acquired an equity line to make payments and save their home, but their intentions were honorable. They suffered through a moral dilemma, and agonized over what to do, until they realized that they were out of options, and left.

There is another group of homeowners walkin' away who didn't suffer through any moral dilemma. They lived in the property, they used the equity in the property to live off, they sucked it dry, and now they are walkin'. It's their decision and their conscience.

Houseowners:

Also known as investors. Some bought as many properties as they could. It's just business they say. They're underwater and can't afford to carry the homes, so, so long, we're outta here. See you on the upside. I have two problems here. One is that some of these investors actually made quite a bit of money flipping before the market caught them. They didn't save any, and what they now have they are doing everything they can to hide someplace. The second problem is that many don't know or don't care about the effect that they are having over everybody else.

Okay, there are also many decent people who invested their savings and lost, and had/have very could intentions and just can't do anything about it. For them I do have some compassion.

So, how will this all play out.

Don't Know. We'll have to wait and see.

But for some the word is;

I'm walkin', Not payin' 

Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI
I agree with Hugh. Fortunately, this has not happened much in my area. Florida is really on a hole.
Feb 09, 2008 10:42 AM
Cameron Wilson
Labrum Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
The Short Guy - Murrieta,Temecula,Menifee Californ

Jay, Lucky me i,m in so.cal and right in the middle of it and in my area we had a group of scammers who formed an investment group that purchased right at 200 properties with false(liars) loans then walked with millions in kickbacks ruining the lives of 80 people who fell for their ptch and invested with them.On the bright side since the first week in january the buyers who really want to own a home have been out looking(and buying)and all they want to see are REOs to get the best prce possible.Wrote an offer today for just such a family and their offer will get accepted.Thats 6 families this year that I have had purchase a HOME not a piggybank.

Feb 09, 2008 11:47 AM
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I heard a seasoned real estate professional calling this "Jingle Mail"...because people send the keys instead of their monthly paymnet!

I saw a recent episode of 60 Minutes on the mortgage crisis...there was a couple that could clearly afford the payment, but just didn't want to because they were upside down. YIKES!

Let your yes be yes and your no be no. Anything else is evil.

Feb 09, 2008 01:25 PM
Jennifer Steck
Rocky Mountain Homescapes, Keller Williams, Denver Colorado - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate
Jay- I am one of those investors with a house that hit the market just at the wrong time and I have really struggled. I've cut out the non-essentials so I could make the payments. I am frustrated and angry with the investors and homeowners that just walk away. When I signed the papers, it was my promise to pay and I'll keep it. In the meantime, I'm keeping my fingers crossed on an increase of conforming loan limits. Who needs fake nails anyway? :)
Feb 09, 2008 02:14 PM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes
Its the families and particularly those with kids who this is the saddest for. They have to live someplace. Let us hope that things work out better in the future for them.
Feb 09, 2008 03:36 PM
Christy Powers
Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners - Pooler, GA
Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent
That is truly sad. I can't see leaving my home. Afterall, it is your credit you are playing with. Something like that stays for a long time. 
Feb 09, 2008 04:53 PM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Wayne,

in our society today the issue of personal responsibility needs to be addressed. what kind of example are we setting for our children?

Cameron,

i feel your pain all the way down here in southwest florida. our markets will correct themselves and hopefully the families that benefit will surpass those who have suffered.

as for dishonest investors and their helpers.

off with their heads!

(not really, but it sure felt good to say it)

Joey,

i'm familiar with the term and it is catchy, but i think that many will not even spring for the stamp.

maybe we could call them "counter keys" where they leave the keys on the kitchen counter on their way out.

Jennifer,

"hats off to you!" and the loud statement you are making for responsibility at no small cost.

i'm afraid too many don't understand the meaning of the words "promise to pay."

Bob & Carolin,

may the families and children not suffer greatly and when the world turns may they be given another chance if they so desire.

Christy,

some have been eaten alive from the stress and strain and just need to make it stop.

others, just don't care.

thanks

jay  

Feb 09, 2008 09:19 PM
Rhonda Cheek
Harry Norman, Realtors - Marietta, GA

I agree with David, there are so many families out there that have been effected where their situations are temporary, and now they are or have lost their American Dream.  I know a couple that bothlost their jobs in 2007, due to new ownership of the company, and they have picked up and moved on, however, they are having a difficult time catching up. People like them need someone to step in and help them hold on to their dream.

 

Feb 10, 2008 02:47 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Rhonda,

you've got to hate seeing things like that happen. some people are caught up in the mess and while they might be able to correct the situation they probably won't get the chance.

Jay

Feb 10, 2008 08:15 AM
Kathleen Lordbock
Keller Williams Realty Professionals - Baxter, MN
Keller Williams Realty Professionals

in our society today the issue of personal responsibility needs to be addressed.

I agree with this - we (the people) have become a transient irresponsible society that craves and constantly strives to fulfill its lusts in everyway. Corporations are just made up of people and people need to change. Walking away from responsibilities seems to be getting to be the norm.

Feb 10, 2008 01:12 PM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Kathleen,

unfortunately, there is way too much truth in your ststement.

however, change is always a possibility.

Jay

Feb 10, 2008 08:41 PM
Tom Engelhardt
First Choice Mortgage - Ocala, FL
Great Post. I called on a past client about a month ago and explained that he was in a position where he needed to refinance and had plenty of equity, credit, etc. in order to get it done. His response was simply, nope we are just going to let it go. He said they knew all of the ramifications pertaining to their credit and future financial situation and they decided that they would just face the music. Needless to say, I was floored, but ....To each his own! It looks like they arent the only ones.
Feb 11, 2008 02:58 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Tom,

somehow it just seems to people like it's alright. hope they CAN live with it later.

jay

Feb 11, 2008 05:04 AM
Jenniffer Lee
RE/MAX Complete Solutions - Boca Raton, FL
Broker/Owner/Realtor at RE/MAX Complete Solutions
It is a total shame how many people over extended knowingly and now claim it is not their fault. 
Feb 11, 2008 06:17 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Jenniffer,

many want to believe that they can do it. unfortunately that doesn't make it so.

others are just trying to see if they can handle the costs of owning a home with the feeling that if they can't so what, they're walkin'.

Feb 11, 2008 08:42 PM
Susan Smith
Venture Real Estate - Ashland, VA

Tom:  I think much of the blame for people walking away when they had other alternatives, even though it may have been tough, lies with the media and the constant news about how horrible the market is and all the foreclosures.  They are giving the impression that everyone is defaulting on their loan obligations and walking away, making it "okay" to do that. 

How about a few news pieces about how good the housing markets are doing in some areas of the country, how few foreclosures there actually are in those markets (here in the Richmond, VA, area foreclosures are 1 in 1103), and how great the interest rates are now for people who have taken care of theuir credit and have good scores.

Feb 12, 2008 04:38 AM
Jessica Cordell
Century 21 Hendershot Realty - Madisonville, TN
Its terrible, I cant believe it has turned out like this. So many losing thier homes.Jessica Cordell
Feb 14, 2008 02:53 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Jessica,

i can remember having conversations 2-3 years ago about these loans becoming a problem. i'm not really that surprised.

jay

Feb 14, 2008 03:15 AM
Anonymous
John Hurbon

Hi Jay,

It is a sad time in the housing market to see prices fall like they are.

Builders in Benson, Az are finding it challenging as well.

John Hurbon

Realtor

Mar 03, 2008 02:53 AM
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Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

John,

it's a big time correction for some markets, and i'm in one!

jay 

Mar 04, 2008 11:35 PM