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Will We Need To Bring This To Mediation Or Arbitration?

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Will We Need To Bring This To Mediation Or Arbitration?

In our Oregon sales agreement, there is an entire page just for explanation of how things will be handled should a Will We Need To Bring This To Mediation Or Arbitration? buyer or seller feel that they weren't dealt with fairly during the sale or purchase of their home. In most cases, mediation and arbitration are their first recourse besides small claims court.

Of course when you enter into the sales agreement, the last thing you're thinking about are things going bad, but it does happen which is why a whole page is dedicated to this. Here are a few scenarios. What do you think? Some might seem like minor issues, but not so to these buyers and sellers.

Scenario one: The Seller's Property disclosures mention nothing about a leak in the master bedroom shower. The buyer moves in and hops in the remodeled shower and when stepping out notes that there is a huge puddle on the bathroom floor from water that seeped through the door. Not just a little puddle..a two towel soaker. There were other issues also noted that were not mentioned in the Seller's Disclosures, but the buyer thinks that the seller's should have at least been aware of the master shower leak. Seller also took the pump to the small water feature that was working when buyer purchased the home. Does the buyer have a reason to mediate costs of repairs and replacement for this and other items not mentioned...or is it buyer beware?

Scenario Two: Listing data sheet states that the HOA fees (Home owners association) are a certain amount each month and to include Sewer, Water, Cable, Management and commons. The sales agreement called for the seller to provide all HOA information which the listing Cable TVagent received from the HOA representative to supply to the buyer and which the buyer read and signed off on.

Home closes and the Buyer receives mail stating that they need to pay for the cable over and above the HOA amount stated on the listing sheet. She contacts the HOA and submits the HOA documents received before purchase where it states that the cable is an expense of the HOA as well as a copy of the listing data sheet, but the representive sends her another document that states each homeowner is required to pay a certain amount above the listed HOA monthly amount which was never given to the listing agent nor buyer for review. The owner says the cable is included, but the HOA representative still insists that the buyer pay cable seperate.

Does this buyer need to go to mediation? Is the listing agent responsible or does the "Info deemed reliable but not guaranteed" written on the bottom of the MLS listing sheet cover her? Should the buyer's agent have put all of the listed HOA items on the listing sheet in the sales agreement?

Our goal as agents is to have our clients be happy when they buy or sell a home. Sometimes, things aren't apparent until after things close and your only option is to either except it as a loss and move on or you'll need to bring this to mediation or arbitration or take the other party to small claims court. Hopefully you won't ever need to go to this level, but with any legal and binding agreement, things can happen.

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Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

Dealing with personality difference is probably the most valuable skill I'm learning in my career.

Jun 20, 2013 01:49 PM
Cindy Westfall
Premiere Property Group,LLC Portland Metro & Suburbs Oregon - Tualatin, OR
ABR,GRI Your Tualatin & Portland Metro Real Estate

Hi Laura, That is always a big part of what we do when dealing with the public. In any real estate transaction, there are many different people involved and they all have their quirks and personalities. It sure does make for never getting bored.

Jun 20, 2013 01:58 PM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Cindy, When it closes in Tennessee it is closed. If there is suspicion of fraud now that is a different story but it is not mediation.

Jun 20, 2013 02:40 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Cindy, I'm not sure but I'm counting on "all info deemed reliable but not guaranteed" as being enough to keep us out of a mess.

Jun 21, 2013 03:40 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Cindy,

Scenario One: Absolutely, the seller should have known about the water leaking through the shower door and disclosed it.  Taking the pump to the water feature is bait and switch unless it was specifically excluded from the sale.  Buyers do have a reason to mediate if they care to spend the time and expense to do so.

Jun 21, 2013 11:52 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Cindy,

Scenario Two: This is a bit sticky.  The person from the HOA sent the new owner “another document that states each homeowner is required to pay a certain amount above the listed HOA monthly amount which was never given to the listing agent nor buyer for review.”  Clearly the sellers knew this, or should have known this, and did not disclose it.  The HOA did not include it with their HOA disclosure docs either. So, we have two parties that did not disclose.


All I have to say is good luck dealing with the HOA on this one!    I am still not clear on if only a portion of the cable is paid outside of the HOA fees (which in itself is lame – why not just include it all and increase the HOA fees) or all of the cable is paid outside the HOA. Either way, it was known and not disclosed.
 

Jun 21, 2013 12:48 PM
Cindy Westfall
Premiere Property Group,LLC Portland Metro & Suburbs Oregon - Tualatin, OR
ABR,GRI Your Tualatin & Portland Metro Real Estate

Hi Debbie, In our sue happy society, mediation and arbitration do cut down on things by trying to settle it out of court,but it's good to know that if the client really had a valid reason, there are recourses.

Jun 22, 2013 01:52 AM
Cindy Westfall
Premiere Property Group,LLC Portland Metro & Suburbs Oregon - Tualatin, OR
ABR,GRI Your Tualatin & Portland Metro Real Estate

Hi Jill, My guess is that would be the case as well. Buyer is ultimately responsible for doing their own due diligence.

Jun 22, 2013 01:53 AM
Cindy Westfall
Premiere Property Group,LLC Portland Metro & Suburbs Oregon - Tualatin, OR
ABR,GRI Your Tualatin & Portland Metro Real Estate

Hi Kathleen, The pond pump was not excluded, so the buyer was taken aback when it wasn't there. There are just some things that you don't see or realize until after the sale. How often does an inspector run the shower long enough to see if there is major puddling..and even if they did, if a person was not actually standing in the shower for the water to bounce off off..how would you know. The sellers should have since it was a main bathroom. Agreed on the HOA's, it will be interesting how this was pans out for the buyer.

 

Jun 22, 2013 02:00 AM