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Realtors, please STOP allowing this

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Mortgage and Lending with Cambria Mortgage NMLS 274132

In the 20+ years I've been originating loans, there has always been a bit of tension between Loan Officers and Real Estate Agents. 

While we both have some knowledge or what each other does, little things on both sides can drive us crazy. I firmly believe every Loan Officer should spend a week glued to a Real Estate Agent, and every real Estate Agent should spend a week glued to a Loan Officer.  This would give each party a better understanding of what the other person does, and they would have so much more respect.

This just happended again, prompting me to write this post... 

The wife, who is NOT on the loan, wrote the earnest money check.

THE TIP OF THE DAY

 

A non-party to the transaction can NOT write the earnest money check!

Earnest money ONLY from the buyer.  No husbands, no wives, no boyfriends, no girlfriends, no moms, no dads.

ONLY the actual buyer. Only someone on the loan please!

This is a major headache and hassle behind the scene to correct, and only delays closings when a non-party to the transaction writes the earnest money check. 

Comments(170)

Team Honeycutt
Allen Tate - Concord, NC

Great reminder. Unfortunately, I learned this the hard way several years ago. Learning it from the blog would have been much easier.

 

Betty

Jul 09, 2013 05:18 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Yes, it would be good for agents and lenders to have a better understanding of the "other guy's" job. As for the earnest money check - I haven't been an agent for several years now, but when I was, I don't recall this ever coming up. Perhaps it's a new thing? 

Jul 09, 2013 06:30 AM
Roger Stensland
Keller Williams Realty Puget Sound - Maple Valley, WA
Let's Move!

I am with you.  I purposely do not over-learn the mortgage side of things.  That is not my chosen specialty.  Whenever a client of mine asks me for mogtgage advise, I always refer him to one or two mortgage professionals with whom I work so he can get the real answer to his question.  I would rather you get the right advice the first time rather than to unlearn bad advice and then learn the correct way.

Jul 09, 2013 06:35 AM
Lloyd Binen
Certified Realty Services - Saratoga, CA
Silicon Valley Realtor since 1976; 408-373-4411

The hip glue is a good idea for lots and lots of professions, even unrelated ones.  Is that true for all financing, even 30%+ cash down conventional loans?  Or just FHA/VA?  A purchase contract can be valid and binding with a 3rd parties' deposit. 

Jul 09, 2013 07:04 AM
Steffy Hristova
HomeSmart Elite Group Tempe AZ Tel: 602.710.8161 - Tempe, AZ
Tempe AZ Realtor - Your Home Close to Your Work!

Joseph,

You have great points.

How about a scenario where the earnest money is in the form of a money order, or cashier's check. Does it matter?

 

Jul 09, 2013 08:20 AM
Rob Z
Keller Williams Buffalo Northtowns - Buffalo, NY
Let me Help You

Makes complete sense.  The cross training and the earnest money deposit

Jul 09, 2013 09:40 AM
Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

Joseph, I have been lucky to work with loan officers who communicate with Realtors and educate their Realtors and clients.  Good post and good ideas.

Jul 09, 2013 12:59 PM
Mike McCann Nebraska Land Broker
Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska - Kearney, NE
Farm & Commercial Property For Sale 308-627-3700

The thing I am impressed with is the number of people who have commented here. 

The thing I am unimpressed with is some of the self righteous and/or smug comments I have read here by more than just one or two.

Whether the issue originally referred to in the blog is accurate or not...nor whether you agree or not....the callous and rude comments of some of the responders is appalling and disappointing.

And definitely not becoming of a Professional in a Public Forum.

Jul 09, 2013 01:35 PM
Victoria CB Trees
Victoria CB Trees Real Estate Services - Chiloquin, OR
Principal Broker

In 8 years and hundreds of transactions, I guess I've never run into this!  Huh!  We put EM in our CTA, and it goes to escrow just before closing, so I'm not even sure a lender is aware of who wrote the EM check...

Jul 10, 2013 04:34 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Hmm, really... And how does the Lender knows who the Escrow check came from?

And as Lloyd said (#155), for the contract to be valid, any check would be fine.

Jul 10, 2013 07:46 AM
Joe Metzler
Cambria Mortgage - Saint Paul, MN
Sr Loan Officer

Um...  it is easy...  You see, in order to give credit for the earnest money, lenders are required to verify the earnest money check has cleared the bank...  If it was a cashiers check, were are required to prove with a bank statement the withdrawl of the money for the cashiers check.

"Hmm, really... And how does the Lender knows who the Escrow check came from?"

Jul 10, 2013 08:05 AM
Fred Cope
Reliant Realty in Nashville, TN - Nashville, TN
Looking For Homes With A Smile

Thank you, Joe.  Twenty-five years in mortgage finance taught me several things; but one thing I learned early in that career is the REALTOR® and Loan Officer have a common interest in the transaction.  Have you ever seen the cartoon of two donkeys tied together and standing between two stacks of hay.  As long as they pulled in opposite directions, neither reached their goal; but with co-operation they both enjoyed a good meal.

Now a REALTOR®, I encourage the loan officer to work with me, and I strive to provide full documentation immediately.  I stress to the buyer(s) the importance of providing all requested information immediately.

Neither REALTOR® nor Lender has all the answers, nor can they always anticipate every "curve ball" coming their way.

One of my favorite agents always told her clients, "don't worry about it, Fred will take care of that."  Point being, she had confidence in me, and I had confidence in her.  Time spent finding fault, placing blame, procrastinating, complaining, and not paying attention goes against the words we rehearse to every client: "time is of the essence."

REALTORS® and Loan Officers have a common fault--no one is perfect.  Let's not squander the opportunity to work together and correct a problem, help our mutual client, and get the deal done!!!

Jul 11, 2013 01:49 PM
Larry Lawfer
YourStories Realty Group - Newton, MA
"I listen for a living." It's all about you.

I have never felt tension between myself and the lenders I work with.  We have different jobs and your helping your agents to understand your process is part of that job.  There is great turnover in our industry on both sides. I find the people with years of experience have usually learned that it is a back and forth process with many things poppling up.  I work with the lenders who can move through them quickly and efficiently with mutual respect and ongoing communications at the heart of the relationship. 

Jul 13, 2013 07:55 PM
Andrea HoffDomin
Florida Dream Homes Realty - Fort Lauderdale, FL
- in Real Estate always on your side!

A great reminder to do it right from the beginning because that saves time later.

Jul 15, 2013 11:54 AM
Michael J. O'Connor
Diamond Ridge Realty - Corona, CA
Eastvale - 951-847-4883

Our standard contracts now include language that the buyer will be responsible for depositing the EM with escrow within three business days of acceptance.  I no longer worry about the check part but I'm going to need to remember to tell the buyer to make sure that the money does come from an account which has their name on it!

Jul 16, 2013 03:25 AM
Claude Lewis
Exp Realty - Fort Lauderdale, FL

I completely agree with you and think that everyone should try to  understand  the other sides of the business, and posts like this help to keep everyone on the same page. The things we take for granted,you would think everyone knows this! 

Jul 17, 2013 06:36 AM
Barbara Jenkins
Solid Source Realty - Loganville, GA
Its about THE house

Thanks Joe for the reminder.

It's not a problem when the spouse signs an earnest money check on a joint account, is it?

I love the cross training idea as well. I have been recently cc'd by one of my buyers on communications between her and a lender and am impressed with his expertise and service. When mortgage originator licensing became required, I was relieved to forget some of my mortgage facts and hand off all loan questions to my favorite LO's. But of course earnsest money and some contract language are common interests to us both.

Similarly, I would like to ask LO's to please not advise our clients/ customers about how they should be able to negotiate or get a certain type of deal for a property. I've overheard it many times especially when an appraisal comes in low. There is never a guarentee that a party to a contract will adjust their position.

Jul 17, 2013 08:53 AM
Robert L. Brown
www.mrbrownsellsgr.com - Grand Rapids, MI
Grand Rapids Real Estate Bellabay Realty, West Mic

This should be a no brainer. But I guess it's not.

Jul 18, 2013 03:38 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

I feel your passion and totally agree about sleeping with one another for a week or so.

Jul 19, 2013 05:50 AM
Rob Rosa
Berkshire Hathaway - Wethersfield, CT
Personal Real Estate Expert

This is a good point and I appreciate the reminder.

Aug 27, 2013 08:10 PM