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What is IRR? Spreadsheet for APOD and IRR Here.

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Real Estate Agent with Market America Realty and Investments, Inc. F3319348

Ok. Let's talk IRR - Internal rates of return - on a real estate investment. I have previously covered CAP rate.  (Click Here) You might want to start by reviewing that post.

When I first started buying rental properties here in Fort Myers, Florida, I never used CAP rates to compare properties. I did not trust the numbers that were given to me and quite frankly had never been taught CAP rates.   Instead, I evaluated every property I bought on a spread sheet.  Into this excel spreadsheet I plugged all my variables:  Purchase price, down payment, interest rates, terms, expected capital improvements, and other items like vacancy and credit loss.  I would then have a number of spread sheets and make "what if?" scenarios.

On the same sheet I put an expected appreciation rate and my anticipated tax rate.  (I forecast when I was going to sell the asset and at what price).  What I was building, without really knowing what it was called, was an internal rate of return analysis.  I wanted to know that the annual return was on my investment after I had cashed out of it, in say, five years at an annual appreciation of say 5% on the asset.

An internal rate of return is called internal, because it ignores how you might invest periodic cash flow once it is out of the investment. It only looks at return that is internal to the investment.

CAP rates tell you what the annual rate of return is on an investment while you own it ( ignoring debt); The IRR will tell me what the return is on the total investment when you are out, in present value terms.

The IRR evaluates a series of cash flow streams.  The first year there is an outlay. This is the year you buy the project. Every economic period there after (Months or Years) there is either an income or a loss. The final year, when you sell the property, you also have an income ( or, God forbid, a loss).  IRR takes into account all of these cash flow streams (both positive and negative)  and puts a present value on it.  IRR's are best calculated in a spread sheet or a financial calculator. Here is a link to a good primer on the subject: ( Click Here).   I use the Gary Tharp,  CCIM prepared APOD  ( Annual Property Operating Data) that includes an IRR calculation for my commercial investments.  I always prepare one of these for my clients for every potential investment.  (Gary Tharp has made it available for use HERE)

What does all this mean?  An investment with an 11% CAP rate and 9% cash on cash is good, but if, at the end of your ownership period, you cannot sell this property because of functional obsolescence, (A restaurant that is outdated, for example, or better yet, a dirt mine that is depleted)   then your IRR will be lower  (Your cash flow stream will be functionally zero at the end).  On the other hand if you have a decent cap rate and great appreciation and are able to sell and get a goodly bump on cash flow the last year - then your IRR well be excellent.

Cape rates are good. IRR is better. Learn to use both.

 

Gregg Fous

Fort Myers, Florida Real Estate Broker

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Jim W Hildreth
Jim W Hildreth Real Estate Brokerage & Mediation Services - Sonora, CA
Real Estate Mediation Services

For many residential agents cap rates, IRR may be boring, I wanted to personally thank you for your detailed information and the value of your article.

Jul 30, 2008 02:35 PM
Lisa Friedman
Alliance Realtors - Bedminster, NJ
Central New Jersey Real Estate

Gregg, interesting blog.  I am an investor of single family homes and have never really numbers this technically before.

Jul 30, 2008 02:46 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Gregg, I also use Gary Tharp's APOD form. It is a great tool for presenting to clients. Thanks, good info.

Jul 31, 2008 01:50 AM
Michael "Mike" Miller
EXIT REALTY SERVICES - Moon Township, PA
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Gregg,  Thanks for sharing this important information.   I'll look over the spreadsheets and hope to make good use of them.  Mike

Jul 31, 2008 02:17 AM
Gregg Fous
Market America Realty and Investments, Inc. - Fort Myers, FL

This CCIM spreadsheet has been around a long time and has become an industry standard.  Banks like it as well as the buyers.

Aug 02, 2008 09:57 PM
JM Padron, CCIM, CCP
THE JMTEAM NETWORK - Destin, FL
CCIM, CCP, International Commercial Broker

Gregg,

 

Excellent article, I believe that spreading the basic commercial concepts will be benefeicial to both investors and realtors.

 

JM Padron, CCIM, CRB

Aug 03, 2008 04:55 AM
Gregg Fous
Market America Realty and Investments, Inc. - Fort Myers, FL

Numbers keep the logic in the buy decision. Thanks 

Aug 22, 2008 11:58 PM
Troy Jowers
Pogo Realty, LLC - New Orleans, LA
New Orleans Realtor

Something great to anchor down some of my buyers who want to buy "emotionally." Though a good entrepreneur can never ignore their gut, the black and white of these numbers will be a good temperment to any deceptive "wow" factors. Thanks again, Gregg.

Aug 24, 2008 07:51 AM
David W. Bolick
Network Real Estate, Inc. - Little Rock, AR

Gregg, that's where real estate agents get lost as a goose in a hailstorm when they jump from residential property to "income producing property".  If you're selling income producing property, you're selling "cash flow" plain and simple and you've got to measure cash flow using RIO (Return on Investment) for those not familiar.

As you are aware, the IRR is defined as "equating cost, to the present value of a series of cash flow", which of course includes the reversion amount.  The CAP rate is no different than "what is the amount of return on an all cash deal stated in terms of a percent".  If you treat all purchases as though they were "cash" then it makes more sense to an average buyer I think. 

It's interesting that the calculation for a Straight Amortization of a loan is identical to the calculation of IRR, except IRR allows for an "Unlevel Series of Payments" where Amortization has to have "Level Payments".

Very good blog.  I hope everyone reads your links as well.

Aug 25, 2008 01:39 PM
Cliff Jones
KW Commercial - Keller Williams Realty International - Hendersonville, TN

I very much appreciate this blog.  I consider it a gift.

This is great information and links for even more great information.  I will be referencing this information for days/weeks to come.

Thank you,

Cliff

Nov 16, 2009 04:54 AM