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Who the heck would buy a home with undrinkable water and a leaky basement?

By
Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center

I did.  In 1977.  (Notice the date.  This was well before the Michigans Sellers Disclosure
Act that was signed into law in 1993)

This was also before home inspectors and agency laws.

During a tour of my first home prior to purchasing it I noticed two things that peaked
my curiosity and mentioned them both to the listing agent.

"My, there is a lot of distilled water bottles in the utility room!"  (Her response: The
seller does quite a bit of ironing
.)  Stupid me. I believed that.

"Goodness, this basement is awfully clean and dry for being so close to the river!" (Oh
yes, the cement is so clean it looks new!
)  The cement overlay was new, but we
didn't realize that until months later.

My husband and I bought the house.  The first day in our new home I put on a pot
of coffee.  After the coffee brewed and I took my first swallow I had to run for the sink
to spit it out.  It was so salty I wondered if I mistakenly added salt instead of sugar
to my cup.  No, that wasn't it.  The water was incredibly salty.   In fact, you couldn't
drink it.  The bottles of distilled water in the utility room suddenly came to my mind.

Yes, I'd been had.  I cannot put into words how sorry I was that I believed the
sellers agent and didn't stop to think to taste the water before we purchased the home.
Note:  We also weren't aware that well water could be tested.

Several months later in the early spring during the time that snow melts and
the rainy season starts our lovely basement started to leak.  And continued to leak.
There was no stopping it.  The overlay of new cement peeled and cracked and came
apart from the walls and floor. 

For the first few years we spent time, energy and $$ diverting water away from the
home, not storing anything in the basement that meant anything to us.  Our furnace
and water heater were lifted on to cement blocks to protect them. 

Things have changed considerably since I purchased my first home
We have sellers disclosure laws in affect.  Sellers must disclose material defects.
Consumers also have access to home inspectors, engineers, licensed contractors,
and well & septic inspectors.  Consumers are armed with those that can help them
determine the condition of the home they wish to purchase.

Consumers are also protected by the ability to have a real estate agent represent
them and their needs.  Buyers agents are becoming even more valued in our area.

Do I remember what happened to me when I represent a buyer?  You betcha! That
experience will never leave me nor be far from my mind.  In fact, I think it has helped
to make me a more conscientious real estate agent.

Does anyone else have a story to tell about their first home purchase and if their
experience has helped shape them as a real estate professional?

 

 

Ask me about buyers agency and how to protect yourself when purchasing a home in Macomb County MI.

Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Maureen:   Bought directly from the listing agent.  Michigan Agency laws didn't come into play until 1993 (I think that was the year...)  Heck, we had NO idea that we could have inspections.   (You'll get a kick out of how dumb we were.  The river that was outside our side door by 100 feet is the Salt River. Ding Dong!)  I was just 19 and hubby was 24.  Young and naiive.

Oct 10, 2008 11:56 PM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Karen:   I was the one who bought that home.  (Me and my hubby)  In 1977.  My how times have changed! 

Oct 10, 2008 11:57 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Salt River?  MI?

Oct 10, 2008 11:58 PM
Barry Bridges
Barry Bridges Weichert Realtors Bridges & Co. - Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Lake professional

How on earth did you sell the house.

Oct 11, 2008 12:01 AM
Richard Shuman
The Only B.S. I Have is from the University of Massachusetts - Lake Mary, FL
Real Estate Broker - Orlando Area - Love Referrals

for the right price someone will buy any home! At least I think they would?

Oct 11, 2008 12:01 AM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Maureen:   Yes.  It leads into Anchor Bay (in Lake St. Clair)

Weichert Realtors:   I didn't sell the house.  Although it wouldn't be hard to sell now.   City water came down the street in the 1990's and the basement has been fully waterproofed. 

Richard:   (I bought the house. In 1977)  Believe it or not that house was priced at the top of the market in the area at the time.

Oct 11, 2008 12:06 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Kris, yes this was before the days of disclosure, home inspections and buyer representation. Sometimes we get irritated with all the disclosures we have to deal with, but your experience with this property is the reason why we have them today. Have a good weekend!

Oct 11, 2008 12:13 AM
Barry Bridges
Barry Bridges Weichert Realtors Bridges & Co. - Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Lake professional

Anchor Bay  Wow haven't thought about that place in many years. I used to spend a lot of time on Lake St Clair My in laws lived in Algonac

Oct 11, 2008 12:15 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Sooo...do tell, what happened when YOU sold it ?  Did you have to inlcude bottled water for a year...dig a new well ? Ahhhh...just read the comment sabove...usually I am not that awake...good for you....an example of making lemonade from lemons !

Oct 11, 2008 12:22 AM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Michael:   Some of the paperwork does get tedious, but I'm happy to have it for my clients.  Much better than the way homes used to be bought and sold.  Have a great weekend also Michael!

Barry:   It's a pretty area isn't it?  Algonac is still one of my favorite summer hangouts.  LOVE to watch the freighters go by!

Sally and David:   Glad you read the comments :-)  We had Absopure delivered monthly for many many years.  Quite the added expense. It really was a nice home, just couldn't drink the water or store anything in the basement for a few years!   Would we have bought it had we known?  Probably not.  Much too much money for kids to have those kinds of repairs.

Oct 11, 2008 12:28 AM
Barry Bridges
Barry Bridges Weichert Realtors Bridges & Co. - Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Lake professional

Kris:   Those were the days. I live on a lake now but not nearly that size. Enjoy it. You live in a very special place

Oct 11, 2008 12:38 AM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Barry:   I've never visited your part of the country but from what I've heard it is incredibly beautiful.  Lucky you!

Oct 11, 2008 12:48 AM
Kathy Fey
Fey & Associates - Dacula, GA

I bought a 75 yr old home that the bank was getting ready to tear down.  The tenants lived liked pigs and the home was nasty inside - but I bought it anyway because of the potential and an excellent location.  After years of working on the house I uncovered gorgeous hand carved rosettes and wood carvings, and the leaded glass windows were spectacular.  My $25,000 inital investment parlayed into a huge windfall when I sold it. 

Oct 11, 2008 02:08 AM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

Kris, My first home purchase was awful.  And it must have been before disclosure laws....the basement also leaked but worse then that, the crawl space to the attic was in the closet--which was filled with clothes.  We were convinced we didn't have to go up (how inconvient for the poor sellers) and didn't see until after we purchased that it had red spray paint with devil symbols.  I was absolutely horrified!! 

Oct 11, 2008 02:33 PM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Kathy:   Do you have pictures of the beautiful wood carvings and leaded glass windows?  (I love that craftmanship!)    I'm so glad you could envision the beauty.   What a great story Kathy.

Carole:   OMG!   I think I would have sat and cried.  Bet you were tempted to pull out the wood and burn it instead of painting over it...yeah, that must have been before disclosure laws. 

Oct 11, 2008 11:30 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Kris, if your sellers' agent had try to pull that stunt here, even back in the 70's, she'd probably have been sued, disclosure laws or not!  

Oct 13, 2008 02:16 AM
Kevin & Maryellen Garasky
KMG Mortgage Group - Kevin & Maryellen, Idaho & Washington - Coeur d'Alene, ID
KMG Mortgage Group - ID & WA

Kris - How awful!  For this reason, and this reason alone, I hate to do FSBO transactions (I'm a mortgage broker and ALWAYS get asked agent questions when we provide financing for a FSBO).

My husband and I bought a townhouse in 1997.  We had a really BAD spring (LOTS and LOTS of rain) and the building started to fall apart.  There were 6 units attached and the 3 units on the west were tilting forward and the 3 units on the east were tilting backward - causing the two units in the middle to twist apartThe damage was horrific!  The HOA and homeowners filed a lawsuit against the builder and during the discovery process it was found out that the builder performed a water table test 20 years BEFORE construction!  During the 20 year period the water table had risen and, when we got that terrible rain, our house was literally floating on water!!!

We sold the townhouse, shortly after 9/11.  We offered our buyer to back out, disclosed it up the wazoo.  But, she still wanted it.  We don't know what happened after that.  But, at least we were clear by disclosing it!

Oct 13, 2008 10:08 AM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Patricia:   Suing didn't even seem to be an option at the time.   The sellers didn't give any information about the home (were not there doing showings) it was the agent who made the misrepresentations.  We just sucked it up and fixed things...

KMG Mortgage Group:   What's that old saying?  "There is a house for everyone..." (something like that)  As I read your story I had to shake my head.   First, disgusted that you had this happen to you also, and second, that someone was anxious to purchase it.  YOu did the right thing, you disclosed everything.   I do hope the new owner is happy there and dry :-)

Oct 13, 2008 09:37 PM
Lee Cunningham
Cunningham Team RE/MAX R.P. - Greenville, SC
Greenville SC Real Estate

Always do you due diligence in these matters.  It also seems like you bought the house from the listing agent who was not representing you and looking after your best interests.

Oct 30, 2008 01:17 AM
Russ Ravary ~ Metro Detroit Realtor call (248) 310-6239
Real Estate One - Commerce, MI
Michigan homes for sale ~ yesmyrealtor@gmail.com

Kris great information and a reminder of how far we have come in the real estate protection

Nov 27, 2008 05:14 AM