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IF YOU'VE BEEN VIOLATED BY A COPYRIGHT THIEF, DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

This post inspired by Tracy Santrock's excellent post describing her experience discovering that her content had been stolen and used by a competitor.   I could surely identify with her feelings of shock, disappointment and finally outrage.  I have felt those same emotions many times, each time I discover one of my location maps on a competitor's web site.  Not unlike my experience, Tracy discovered her content on a competitor's blog by accident. 

CONSIDER THE IRONY.  In my case, I was reviewing Baltimore real estate agents' web sites looking for a referral agent.  I saw a comprehensive web site for the area of my search and when I started to tour the web site, I ran into not just one, not just 3, but between 11-13 of my maps on that web site.  He has also used my unique demographic presentation.  This was about 4 years ago.  How I discovered my unique maps on another agent's web site was as interesting as what transpired following.  I love irony. 

I came to a web site and saw a link to Baltimore County and "BAM", right in the solar plexus, MY BALTIMORE COUNTY MAP.  So I looked at other links on the site;  Anne Arundel County, MY MAP, Montgomery County, MY MAP and so on.  It's been some time now but I believe that there were 11-13 of my maps on that agent's web site.  I contacted my attorney and my copyright adventure began that day.  Not only did the agent lose the opportunity to receive 4-6 Baltimore County referrals each month, he eventually paid me $41,000 in damages for Copyright Infringement.  His broker paid about $10,500 and two other agents who were sharing that web site paid about $7,500 each. 

PRE-ACTIVERAIN.   Before ActiveRain, I often review local web sites and contact site owners looking for good referral agents.  My Internet presence generates far more business than I or the brokers in my network can help.   Needless to say, that agent was not invited to join the Homefinders.com Referral Network.  That cost him too. 

You gotta love the irony.

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Comments(39)

Randy L. Prothero
eXp Realty - Hollister, MO
Missouri REALTOR, (808) 384-5645

Like they say a copyright is only as good as you are willing to defend it.  You have been an inspiration and a great tutor to many of us.  Thank you!

Nov 27, 2008 04:52 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Randy.  The thought of someone sitting with a smug grin on their face thinking how smart they are to just find, right click and use anything they want on the Internet infuriates me.  I refuse to let them get away with it.

Jeremy.  Maybe you should.

 

Nov 27, 2008 08:46 PM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Lenn.... as always, you put out some good information on this.... and it kills me that someone would steal your stuff... well, anyone's stuff... and as I mentioned, even blurbs of someone's stuff, just to gain SEO to their site to sell stuff to others...

PS... did you get my e-mail about that?  In regards to the same person stealing my stuff, but how to go about it, since there are no contact information. Just a site to gain SEO so people click on the links to sell stuff.  thanks

jeff belonger

Nov 28, 2008 12:23 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jeff.  I did NOT get any e-mail from you about the matter.  Send it again to

lennharley@mris.com

I'm cleaning out some malware today, so I may not get to it until later.

Lenn

 

Nov 28, 2008 12:36 AM
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer

Lenn:  I would be interested in your response to Jeff's issue.  I talked to Jeff about this and I have had the same issue so if you could write a blanket post about it, that would be super!

Nov 28, 2008 04:07 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Also, I believe you do have copyright protected stuff on your web site.  Even a list is copyright protected.

Lenn... if you could let me know what you think is copyright protected... I'll look into it and remove it if you're right.  I am not interested in purposely copyright infringment.

thanx

Nov 28, 2008 05:46 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Renee.  As soon as someone can explain the problem to me, I'll see if I can figure it out. 

Lenn

Nov 28, 2008 05:51 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Lenn... I just went through my blog, and the few lists I have there were either created entirely by me... or gleaned from many many lists on the internet (a bullet point here, and a bullet point there)... not taken from any single e-mail, or website... so I don't see how they would be infringement.

You are allowed to "clip" small portions from copyrighted materials (you are supposed to reference them... but when they arrive as jokes, anonymous emails, etc... how are you to do that?).

Nov 28, 2008 05:54 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Alan.  You wrote:  I don't have pages full of copyright protected stuff on my website).

I looked at your Coldwell Banker web site and saw a number of lists, which are copyright protected by YOU. 

That's what I meant.  I suspect that you meant copyright by others.  You site is quite clean from what I saw. 

The reason I wrote what I wrote is because I've read where someone would advice that lists cannot be copyrighted.  That's not so.  Lists are copyright protected when the writer creates a list themselves.  However, if someone copies that list and put's it on their web site, they would have violated the copyright of the person who created the list. 

We were talking about two different "copyright" meanings.

 

Nov 28, 2008 05:56 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

ahh... you're right... I was referring to my having "stolen" copyright materials.   But I'm sure there are plenty of things on our CB site that are copyright protected by CB.

Nov 28, 2008 06:42 AM
Rebecca Levinson, Real Estate Marketing and Online Advertising Consultant
Real Skillz-Clear Marketing for Your Real Estate Vision - Lake Geneva, WI

Laziness can be a costly mistake.  Lack of integrity, even greater.

Nov 28, 2008 11:38 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Lenn- Good for you, you go! When they pay out of their pocketbook, they will think twice about ever doing copy and pasting your work again. Happy Thanksgiving, back to putting up our lights.

Nov 28, 2008 12:57 PM
John Novak
Keller Williams Realty The Marketplace - Las Vegas, NV
Henderson, Las Vegas and Summerlin Real Estate

If an agent is so arrogant or lazy to steal someone else's content, that tells me a couple of things -- 1) they don't appreciate the time and effort it takes to create original content, and 2) they probably cut corners and bend (or break) rules in other areas of their business. That's definitely not the kind of agent I want to do business with.

Nov 28, 2008 01:14 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

John.  You focus on an important matter, honesty.  An agent who would steal the creative content of another agent would surely not have the ethics and standards of conduct we expect and rely upon in fellow agents and brokers.

Katerina.  Thanks.  Hopefully, they will think about taking the creative property of anyone. 

Rebecca.  Thanks you.  I try to put a financial hurt on anyone who steals my intellectual property.  The more they take from me, the more I want to take in $$$$ from them.

Alan.  Good.   We're on the same page.  What you can use of CB property is between you and CB.

 

Nov 28, 2008 08:33 PM
Tracy Santrock
Santrock Realty Group Inc. , - Cary, NC
Raleigh - Cary Broker

I'm glad I'm not the only one that ran into this problem.  I appreciate your generous words of advice and encouragement regarding my case.  Thanks to your advice I have a plan to make sure this doesn't happen again in the futture.

 

Nov 29, 2008 03:03 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Tracy.  Thanks.  We have to keep these content thieves in line.

 

Nov 29, 2008 07:44 AM
Tina Gleisner
Home Tips for Women - Portsmouth, NH
Home Tips for Women

Very interesting. I wonder though how much time should be invested (or maybe use Copyscape) to protect my content?

Sep 27, 2009 03:19 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Tina.  I don't bother to protect my text content.  It changes often and I'm not sure it's worth bothering with .

My map images, however, are unique, copyright protected and I make any map thief pay.

Sep 27, 2009 03:21 AM
Tina Gleisner
Home Tips for Women - Portsmouth, NH
Home Tips for Women

Lenn, After several emails I finally learned that the folks at HomeRenovationGuide.com decided that if they were getting my newsletter, then it was okay to lift my articles and publish them on their site. The mistake they made was to give credit to my franchisor rather than me as the author (they said they thought it was corporate material which it's not).

I've left the article there now that I'm getting the bio box and link. I've got tons more to learn in this space, that's for sure so I know I'll be back here looking for advice soon.

 

Oct 29, 2009 09:20 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Tina.  One important thing to keep in mind.

Credit or attribution is not PERMISSION.  Just giving a person credit for the original isn't enough.

I found two of my maps this week on different service company's web sites.  I e-mailed them and told them to revove my copyright protected map or give me a back link. 

They gave me a back link.  Of course, if they had been real estate licensees using my maps to compete with me, I wouldn't have contacted them.  My attorney would. 

 

 

Oct 29, 2009 09:55 AM