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DPA's ............... Not A Good Idea

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Mortgage and Lending with George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages NMLS #65149

As you know, AmeriDream, Nehemiah and other Down Payment Assistance programs (DPA's) were eliminated October 1, 2008.  FHA had been trying to eliminate these programs for years, and they were heavily opposed not only by the organizations that provided this service, but also by many Brokers and Loan Officers who made a very good living as a result of their Borrowers utilizing the DPA's.  The two sides went at it pretty hot and heavy but when the smoke cleared and Bill H.R. 3221 was past, FHA came out on the winning side.

The merit of DPA's has been blogged about here in the Rain many times since October 1, 2008, mainly by those who support this concept, and have vowed to keep on fighting to bring them back.  To-date they have not managed to do that, and I for one hope that these programs do not come back.  I am all for the State Bonded Programs Like CHFA here in Connecticut, but I for one think that the DPA Programs like AmeriDream, and Nehemiah were and still are a bad idea.

My reasons for being opposed to these programs are like me, very simple.  In my opinion these programs were an out right violation of the FHA guidelines in regards to who my provide downpayment assistance.  Section 302 of the FHA Guidelines states:

Gift Funds. An outright gift of the cash investment is acceptable if the donor is the borrower's relative, the borrower's employer or labor union, a charitable organization, a governmental agency or public entity that has a program to provide homeownership assistance to low-and moderate-income families or first-time homebuyers, or a close friend with a clearly defined and documented interest in the borrower.

The gift donor may not be a person or entity with an interest in the sale of the property, such as the seller, real estate agent or broker, builder, or any entity associated with them.  Gifts from these sources are considered inducements to purchase and must be subtracted from the sales price.

So where is the violation?  For those of you that are not familiar with how DPA's like AmeriDream, and Nehemiah work, let me just give you a very brief and simple explanation.

A Buyer is interested in purchasing a home but does not have the downpayment, or for that matter the closing costs either.  The Seller, who by the guideline above cannot contribute to the downpayment, goes to an organization that is set up to provide downpayment assistance (DPA), and gives them the money that the Buyer needs for the downpayment and/or closing costs.  The DPA them gifts it to the Buyer under its name.  By the way the DPA does not do this out of the kindness of their heart, they receive a fee for their services.

So there you have it the "charitable organization" which is allowed to provide "Gift Funds" gets the money from a "Seller" who is not allowed to privide "Gift Funds" and gives it to the Buyer, there by doing an end run around the loop hole in the rule, and violating the intent of the rule.

Now do I have a problem with Sellers contributing towards a downpayment, not at all.  But I do have a big problem with using loop holes to violate the intent of the rules.

In my opinion since FHA allows a Seller to presently contribute up to 6% of the Sales Price towards closing costs, then why not allow the Seller to include in that 6% the downpayment as well. Therefore, eliminating the DPA's, their paper work, and their added costs.

I don't know if I am the only one experiencing this, but these days when I am doing a loan I hold my breath until the appraisal comes in.  More often then not it is coming right in at the Sales Price.  Now inflate the Sales Price to include the added cost of the DPA's fees, and possibly the Seller wanting more because they are having to contribute more then they wanted to, and you have a recipe for either the house not appraising or possible fraud.

I said I would keep it simple and I have already gone on longer then I planned.  If needed I will write another blog to go indeeper into my opinion about DPA's, but for now I thought that at least another view point should be put out there as to why DPA's might not be such a good thing.

I would expect that many of the comments on this post will be in defense of theDPA Programs, and while I recognize why some may support them, I do not share their opinion, and in the end that is what it all comes down to opposing opinions.

 

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Comments(11)

Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Why go through all that rather than just insert a special contingency in the contract for seller to credit buyer X amount for closing costs?

Am I missing something?

Mar 13, 2009 07:43 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Sally what you are missing is that Sellers can contribut up to 6% towards closing costs, but they can not contribute towards downpaymen.  FHA requires that Buyers have a minimun of 3.5% downpayment which can came from their own funds or it can be "Gifted".  So unless FHA and other Loan Programs change their Reg's to allow for Sellers to also contribute towards downpayment, the Buyer will not be able to apply any of the money (even in a special contingency in the contract) towards their downpayment.

Mar 13, 2009 07:51 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

Interesting... I had no idea how these programs work or how the FHA rules apply.  I am surprised this was allowed in the first place.  What is you opinion of the bonding programs (e.g., in New Hampshire we have New Hampshire Housing which has a downpayment program for "low income" buyers which can be combined with an FHA loan)?

Mar 13, 2009 07:54 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Oh....contributing for down payment.  I say that if they don't have the $ for the 3.5% and the seller is contributing up to 6%...then maybe it's not the right time to buy.

Mar 13, 2009 07:58 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Joan, I am in favor of the Stated Bonded Programs, which are for first time homebuyers.  We have CHFA nere in Connecticut, and it is an excellent program.  They allow the Borrower to borrow the downpayment and closing costs as a second loan at the same rate as the first, which is a lower rate then the other 30 year fixed loans.  Also the State Bonded Programs generally have tighter guidelines to try to keep Borrowers from over extending themselves.

Sally glad I cleared that up for you :)

Mar 13, 2009 08:16 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Sorry...glitch went on when submitting last comment...didn't want to hog your comment section so deleted two of the three :)

Thanks for such great info...I learn...and glad you're writing more...you do good :)

Mar 13, 2009 09:37 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Sally no problem it is always good to see your face come up on my blogs even in repeat comments :) :)

Mar 13, 2009 10:56 AM
Esko Kiuru
Bethesda, MD

George,

That's about it. DPAs were largely abused and it was better to eliminate them altogether.

Mar 14, 2009 01:45 PM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Esko I am glad that we both see it the same way, but I am sure there are a number of other Loan Officers out there that would disagree with us.  One of the things that contributed to some of this mess we are in was more concern about closing loans then how they were getting closed.

Mar 14, 2009 03:09 PM
Anonymous
interested

George,


Thanks for your post. I, for one, support the DPA programs. I have worked with them for years and that is not how the programs work. The sellers do not go to the charity with money for a specific buyer. In fact, the money for the downpayment comes from previous sellers that is co-mingled with other funds. It has to be that way because, as you pointed out, FHA regulations prohibit sellers from giving the buyers a down payment. The HUD Office of General Counsel reviewed these programs and determined them to be within FHA guidelines, issuing a legal opinion stating that is allowed. You seem to be missing the point of the "intent" of the law. The down payment requirement was put in place as a way for the borrower to demonstrate their ability to carry a mortgage note. Over time it has been shown that borrowers with higher FICO scores were less likely to default or foreclose. With more emphasis put on the FICO and other factors, not the down payment, to determine the likelihood of success or failure the down payment became less and less of a factor - when using a reasonable set of underwriting requirements and verifying information with full documentation, as most all single-family FHA purchases do. That is why it is currently allowed to have down payment help from third party sources, because the down payment is less of a deciding success factor. If you have a job and can reasonably afford the payment when you qualify, you reasonably will continue to pay the mortgage.

 
I will be the first to admit that these programs were not ideal. But as I understand the leaders of this non-profit sector had been going to HUD for years trying to get them to put in some standards for these entities. HUD/FHA (who were at 2% of market share) on the other hand decided instead that they wanted to put in place a 100+% financing program to better compete with subprime.

Mar 17, 2009 11:11 PM
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George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Interested, I don't know why you would not identify yourself by your real name, but I respect your opinion even though we disagree.

First of all claiming that the funds do not come from the Seller of the property, but from other Sellers, by saying that "the money for the downpayment comes from previous sellers that is co-mingled with other funds", is just a play-on-words, it is coming from the Seller.  The fact is that it is coming from a Seller, and the Buyer would most likely not have received downpayment assistance funds if their Seller had not agreed to donate to this fund (there are probably except, but not the norm).

I appreciate your explanation about the role that FICO plays into this, but FHA does not have a minimun FICO.  These days we are seeing minumum FICO requirements, but that is coming from investors not FHA.

As far as FHA being in favor of downpayment assistance from DPA's.  FHA does not have any problem with gift money coming from third party, as long as that source is not being used as a vehicle for Sellers to contribute the down payment.  Section 302 also state:

"we are not concerned with how the donor obtains the gift funds, provided they are not derived in any manner from a party to the sales transaction."

Further down this section:

"NOTE: FHA does not "approve" down payment assistance programs in the form of gifts administered by charitable organization (i.e. non-profits)."

They then go into a long explanation of this which I will not include here, it would be longer than the blog.

I will close my response to you by say I do not have a problem with DPA's that are provided by State Bonded Programs through bonds, and I do not have a problem with gift money for downpayment if it fits within the FHA guidelines.  But I do have a problem with using play-on-words to get around the rule, and violate the spirit of the rule, if not out right the rule its self.

Please identify yourself in the future if you respond or I will delete the comment, thank you.

Mar 18, 2009 12:32 AM