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Another reason why gay marriage matters -- in ALL states!

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Real Estate Agent with HomeSmart Realty West CalBRE #01458572

Apparently, even if you get legally married, and your State Supreme Court declares that you are, indeed, legally married, it doesn't matter to some states, or at least some cities and their newspapers.

The Associated Press is reporting today that The Spectrum newspaper in St. George, Utah, rejected a wedding announcement for a gay couple who were legally married in California on June 17, 2008.

Tyler Barrick and Spencer Jones wanted their wedding announced prior to a family event in St. George next week. Both Barrick and Jones are from Utah, with Jones being from St. George, and both were raised in the Mormon Church.

Originally, a clerk at The Spectrum accepted the wedding announcement, as well as payment.

Donnie Welch, publisher of The Spectrum, rejected the annoucement, stating that the newspaper's policy is "to publish announcements only for marriages legal under Utah law.

Spencer Jones, an attorney, stated in an email to the publisher that their "marriage is just as real and legal and entitled to celebration as any of the others that are announced each week in the pages of The Spectrum." Welch objected: "This simply is not true. While that may be the case in some states it is not the case in the state of Utah. As our policy is to run marriage announcements recognized by Utah law, I have made the decision not to run the announcement."

Interestingly, the clerk who took the announcement information and credit card number "never disclosed such a policy" and later told Jones that "it was a new policy she had not known."

As with inter-faith marriages and inter-racial marriages which were illegal in many states at one time, we need the United States Supreme Court to put an end to the senselessness of newspapers like The Spectrum and outdated, intolerant thinking like that of Utah and Donnie Welch.

Diane Aurit
LKN Realty, LLC - Mooresville, NC
Lake Norman Real Estate

You are fighting a tough but worthy fight.  Hang in there.  Most discrimination changes took years and years but you will prevail as long as you keep fighting!

Aug 20, 2009 09:12 AM
Sidney Kutchuk - Realty Works Temecula Kutchuk - Realty Works Temecula
Realty Works Temecula - Temecula, CA
Realty Works Temecula

Russel:  Good to get your perspective...I will never understand why people get upset ..if someone wants to announce a gay marriage then let them.  Just because it's not legal in Utah, we still have Federal Free Speech and Amendment laws.  Gee...isn't it Utah that somehow gets away with multiple marriages and incest, and other crazy crap?   I hope he files and wins a discrimination lawsuit.

Aug 20, 2009 09:21 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

I can certainly understand why people care about this stuff, at least why the couples who need to have their announcements published care!   The Spectrum needs to just get over it!

Aug 20, 2009 09:44 AM
Miranda Moser
Century 21 Bamber Realty - Calgary, AB
Calgary Real Estate Agent

I agree with Diane- keep fighting!

I am a very strong believer in equal rights for ALL!!!

I can't believe the USA at one time didn't allow inter-faith and inter-racial marriages?????? I am very proud to be from a place that is alot more accepting...

No offence to my American friends... but I am proud to be Canadian~

I wish you guys all of the best!

 

Aug 20, 2009 09:49 AM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

This is such a load of crap.  Come on people...get real!  This announcement should be published like any other announcement.  This just infuriates me.

Aug 20, 2009 11:19 AM
Russel Ray, San Diego Business & Marketing Consultant & Photographer
Russel Ray - San Diego State University, CA

Hey, Diane - It is, indeed, a long journey, and one that I never thought I'd even see the beginning of during my lifetime, but after spending 14 years with Jim, commingling our lives, we were able to get legally married in California on October 30, 2008, and we have the Certificate of Marriage to prove it. Unfortunately, if we were to travel to an intolerant place like Utah, we'd have to visit our attorney to make sure that we had paperwork with us that would instruct authorities and hospitals how to treat us if something happened to one of us. It's this kind of crap that keeps us fighting on.

Hey, Jane - If Utah, Idaho, and Texas weren't so backward-thinking and intolerant, I might actually go visit my billions of Mormon and Catholic relatives in those three states.

Hey, Patricia - It's amazing that so many people worry about the sex lives of people whom they don't even know.

Hey, Miranda - The world changes, but sometimes agonizingly slowly.

Hey, Sharon - By "crap," do you mean this:

Horse dung for sale

Aug 20, 2009 01:05 PM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

Russel,

 

In Canada, this is no longer a problem. Of course, with some people the prejudice still remains, but fortunately, I think we now have a "live, and let live" philosophy.

 

Brian

Aug 20, 2009 01:14 PM
Elizabeth Bolton
RE/MAX Destiny Real Estate Cambridge, MA - Cambridge, MA
Cambridge MA Realtor

Hi Russel ~ Canada's been looking better and better to me lately.  Things are getting ugly around here. I actually think that gay rights and gay marriage have a much better chance of changing for the better than some other issues in the US.  Not to say it will be easy or immediate but I do get the sense that younger people are much less close minded re gay rights than their elders.  Would that I felt so positive about many other things on my list of outrages.   My favorite bumper sticker for years has been "If You're Not Outraged You're Not Paying Attention".  That sums up my sentiments exactly.

Liz

Aug 20, 2009 02:42 PM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Russel, I've come back to this post 3 times -- I still cannot verbalize my sadness at some people's stupidity and intolerance - I'll just have to leave it at that. I'm sorry Russel.

Aug 20, 2009 03:08 PM
Troy Jowers
Pogo Realty, LLC - New Orleans, LA
New Orleans Realtor

As you said, Russell, it's great that we even got started in our lifetimes on this, but we have so far to go. Hats off to our Canadian friends!

Aug 21, 2009 07:45 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Hmmm...and this is freedom of the what ?  Things can only get better in this regard....and while it is a frustration...they have come a long way....and with support...will go much farther...blog on !

Aug 22, 2009 12:06 AM
Kimo Stowell
HI Pro Realty LLC RB-21531 - Honolulu, HI
REALTOR Associate® RS-76763 - Honolulu Hawai'i

Aloha Russel,

Love, however expressed is beautiful and should be celebrated.

Peace,

Sep 03, 2009 03:27 PM