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The Housing Bubble: not just an American phenomenon

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In this paper from Banque de France, Pamfili Antipa and Remy Lecat argue that home prices in France and Spain ran up to about 20% above their fundamental value by the end of 2008. Only 20%? Ha, I laugh at you France and Spain! America crushes you.

All kidding aside, what's interesting is that the paper concludes that it wasn't loose monetary policy that mostly drove the Spanish and French bubbles; it was loose lending standards that really mattered more so than low interest rates: "When enriching fundamentals with a measure of households’ borrowing capacity, most of this overvaluation, however, disappears as credit duration increased substantially in both countries since the 1990s. This emphasises that the analysis of housing prices should include banking practises much beyond interest rates. This could be extended in particular to credit standards applied to the approval of loans, when long enough time series will be available."

Housing experts here in the US (aka Monday Morning Quarterbacks) have been having this debate here, trying to decide if it was low interest rates, lax lending standards or both which created our craziness, and the subsequent fall. The study concludes the following about France and Spain:

"Hence, monetary policy [in France and Spain] has limited power to control house price dynamics. First, housing prices displays strong inertia which makes an accurate control of their movements through interest rates difficult. Second, housing prices may be sensitive to different segments of the interest rate curve within the euro area (e.g. short-term segment in Spain or long term one in France), leading to highly heterogeneous reactions of European housing markets. Finally, banking practises such as credit duration are important determinants of housing price changes."

Why does this matter? Here's the normative finale of the paper:

"In the debate on the need of monetary policy to control potentially damaging housing booms, this pleads for the use of a wider set of policy tools. A first direction in that sense could structural reforms rendering the supply of housing units flexible enough to curb down lasting house prices appreciation."

I've written before about analyses of the Canadian housing bubble and other countries' bubbles. Here in the US, the debate continues and will probably never be resolved. Should blame rest with the Fed for keeping interest rates too low during the run-up? Or with lenders for being too lax in their lending standards? It's one of the most important questions of our time, and unfortunately we'll probably never have a clear answer.

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Dagny Eason
Dagny's Real Estate - Wilton, CT
Fairfield County CT, CDPE Homes For Sale and Condo

I have bookmarked it for later reading, but it sounds fascinationg!  I have a lot of family all over Europe, and they have been saying basically the same thing....

Feb 03, 2010 11:32 PM
Dagny Eason
Dagny's Real Estate - Wilton, CT
Fairfield County CT, CDPE Homes For Sale and Condo

I have bookmarked it for later reading, but it sounds fascinationg!  I have a lot of family all over Europe, and they have been saying basically the same thing....

Feb 03, 2010 11:32 PM
Louis Cammarosano
Smaulgld LLC - Hampton, NH
Smaulgld

Hi Spencer

Thanks for this. The answer has to be all of the above (or all of the factors listed below).

Here is my list of what drives housing prices and demand

-interest rates (monetary policy)

-availability of credit (set either by lenders via the free market or in conjunction with the Federal government through guaranteed loan programs- making standards "looser" than they other wise might be)

-employement rates

-tax incentives like the mortgage interest rate deduction (this creates a housing demand as the tax incentive often tipped the balance in favor of ownership vs renting)

-Gov't stimulus like the first time home buyers credit - this is temporary

-the market for secondary derivitive mortage products  

-inventory -including "shadow inventory" which is intricately tied into govt policy on accounting rules allowing banks to mark certain mortgages to market, inhibiting forelosures 

-population growth rates

-zoning laws that either promote new housing development (keeping prices down as in Texas ) or that inhibit it (keeping prices high as in California)

-foreign investment (on the coasts-eg. Florida, California and NY),

The factors have to be taken inconjunction to determine what is driving the housing market or bubble.

One factor can not be atributed as the sole cause.

However if either low interest rates and loose credit standards or both caused the housing bubble, it seems the current policy to reflate the housing market is to follow the same fomula-keep interest rates low, encourage lending and toss in a stimulus for good measure.

The impacts of this short term seem to have stabilized the market for now.

The real question for consideration is what happens as interest rates rise, shadow inventory is released and the stimulus expires?

Feb 04, 2010 12:26 AM
Aaron Silverman
SuccessfulRental.com, Bluewater Property Management, LLC and Lowcountry Turnkey Properties, LLC - Charleston, SC
Improving Real Estate Experience through Education

Inexpensive money did not cause a good borrower to default; however, ARMs are another story.  That is where the cost of money had its impact.  Poor lending practices hurt more (which is government regulated).

Feb 04, 2010 12:55 AM
Dana Scanlon
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Bethesda, MD
Bethesda MD- Award-Winning Bethesda Realtor

Very interesting post Spencer, its important to hear about these issues outside our borders. Personally, I can't believe that low interest rates are the problem. If lending standards are sensibly strict and borrowers are forced to have some skin in the game (ie minimally 5-10% downpayments), then it keep the speculative insanity at bay. No doc loans, liar loans, ninja loans -- surely this set off the feeding frenzy.

I am curious, having just returned from a trip to Panama, if you or anyone else knows to what degree the speculative bubble  there -- which appears to be on-going -- has been affected by our meltdown.

Feb 04, 2010 12:56 AM
Dana Hollish Hill
Hollish Hill Group, JPAR Stellar Living - Bethesda, MD
REALTOR * Broker * Coach

You said it Dana. Having some skin in the game changes everything.

There have also been radio stories about the housing bubble in Japan which have been very interesting. The banks are tightening up before the bubble bursts. It is good for all of us to watch and learn if we plan to stay in real estate for the long haul.

Keep us posted on Panama.

 

Feb 04, 2010 01:08 AM
Louis Cammarosano
Smaulgld LLC - Hampton, NH
Smaulgld

@ aaron

You are correct that inexpensive money did not cause the good borrowers to default-indeed such low rates were kind to them.

Low rates do contribute to default on ARMs as borrowers borrowed more at the low rate and then were caught short when rates rose.

I would say that interest rates are also government regulated through the FED.

Indeed most of the U.S. housing market is regulated via tax incentives, stimulus plans, Federal monetary policy (interest rates), Fannie and Freddie lending standards and purchase of mortgage backed securities, FHA, HUD, land use regulations, accounting rules, etc.

I would argue the entire regulatory environment (both monetary policy and lending standards) created the bubble as each of the borrowers and lenders acted in accordance with the incentives that existed at the time.

 

Feb 04, 2010 01:46 AM
Mike Henderson
Your complete source for buying HUD homes - Littleton, CO
HUD Home Hub - 303-949-5848

Interesting analysis.  I loved comment number two.

Feb 04, 2010 01:51 AM
Sky Minor
Sky Minor Real Estate - Eagle Rock, CA

England was even harder hit than the US

Feb 04, 2010 02:27 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Our credit culture caused most of this problem.  Easy credit drove up prices beyond most people's ability to pay.

Feb 04, 2010 03:21 AM
Anonymous
karen

And now even China is beginning to fear the bubble burst in their market.  It's truly everywhere.

Feb 04, 2010 04:10 AM
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Karen Rittenhouse
www.JKKPropertyInvestors.com - Greensboro, NC
Real Estate Investor

And now even China is beginning to fear the bubble burst in their market. It's truly everywhere.

Feb 04, 2010 04:13 AM
Christianne O'Malley
Dickson Realty - Reno, NV
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Spencer - Thanks for bringing this to our collective attention. I think it's really fascinating to see how our economies are tied globally, but further than that, it's great to have other perspectives on what caused this debacle.

Inexpensive money is what caused many buyers to 'over-buy' and essentially buy more house than they could afford. Whether they would have experienced interest rate changes or not, the gas crisis and employment crisis would have caused those borrowers to default either way - because they overbought.

Feb 04, 2010 05:07 AM
Mike Carlier
Lakeville, MN
More opinions than you want to hear about.

Blame is irrelevant.  If you want to blame someone, blame America and its allies for winning WWII.  That's what caused the baby boom which progressed to today's over supply of homes.  No, I am not saying that we would have been better off losing the war, just that it did have an impact on the current worldwide real estate mess.  The cause of the real estate crisis was a unique combination of conditions, only afew preventable. We will never know which conditions, if not present, would have kept the bubble from breaking.  Now, helpless to turn the ship around, we probably need to let it run its course.

Our efforts will be much more productive if we concentrate on moving forward and consider just what are our long term goals, post recession and real estate mess.  If we really believe that a high percentage of home ownership is a worthy national goal, we need to develop programs to strive for it.  In the past, we have come up with mortgage interest deductions as a means of creating an incentive for home ownership.  Although deceptively popular, it's a dismal failure as it rewards high debt and punishes high equity.  The bigger the downpayment, the lower the tax incentive.  What's the incentive to keep your free and clear home?  A tax credit for all homeowners, regardless of debt, makes much more sense.

Feb 04, 2010 05:25 AM
Martin E. Kalisker, Esq.
Natick, MA
Real Estate Law From A Practical Perspective

The Atlanta Fed recently wrote a white paper where they found that in the Massachusetts market the cause of the crash was not led by sub-prime lending, but rather economic declines in the valuation of the housing market.  They concluded that had prices remained stable, the sub-prime loans would have had a very slight impact on foreclosures in the Commonwealth.  What does that say, and is it representative of the rest of the country?  Who knows.  But it is clear that Massachusetts legislators need to do more to improve the building permit process so that developers can build new homes, need to focus on stimulating the economy by job creation, rather than preservation, and keeping jobs in the state.  If there are jobs, there will be people who need homes.  Plain and simple.

Feb 04, 2010 06:34 AM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

There is certainly enough blame to go around. I put most of the blame in the irresponsible leveraging by Wall Street.

Feb 04, 2010 12:29 PM
Jirius Isaac
Isaac Real Estate &TriStar Mortgage - Kenmore, WA
Real Estate & loans in Kenmore, WA

Spencer,

Maybe in 5 years or so we can look back at this and understand exactly why and how this all happenned, but certainly not now.  Good to hear from you.

Feb 04, 2010 03:13 PM
Ty Lacroix
Envelope Real Estate Brokerage Inc - London, ON

Spencer

Keeping up with the Jones' , poor finacial education of the public and something for nothing attitude starting with greed seems to have all come to a head at once!

Feb 05, 2010 08:06 AM
Matt Robinson
Professional Investors Guild - Pensacola, FL
www.professionalinvestorsguild.com

I think it's clear that there is plenty of blame to go around and those who are pointing fingers have 3 pointing back at them.  This was a failure on many different levels, and at this point we need to stop blaming and start learning from our mistakes.  Great post by the way.  We need to never forget the debacle of the sub-prime era, though it's almost certainly going to happen again in 20-30 years.  Look how quickly we have forgotten the sting from 9-11-01 and started softening our terrorism guidelines.

Feb 12, 2010 05:44 AM
Jark Krysinski *PREC (Personal Real Estate Corporation)
REMAX CREST REALTY WESTSIDE - Vancouver, BC
TeamYVR Team Leader, BA,ABR,IRES,IMSD,LLB

Hi Spencer I've received my I.R.E.S. Designation in Vancouver, BC, Canada and I noticed that you have similar designations.  I'm messaging you because I want to expand my international connections.  I'm presently building a larger network so that your listings can be featured in my city (for an international exposure), and mine can be featured by you.  Presently I have approximately 20 listings which might be of interest to you.  

Interested?  Look forward to chatting some more with you with respect to co-listing each other's properties, if you are interested in speaking further?  Cheers, Jark.

Aug 29, 2012 10:27 PM