Ask An Ambassador: Wallflower or Participant

Real Estate Agent with RE/MAX Elite 513.520.5305 SAL.2002007747

Welcome to ActiveRain!

Now what?

You have choices to make.

You can quietly lurk.  Learn how things work, figure out who the go to people are, the techniques, etc.  Find the tips about how to blog and be productive.

Or you can do a full gainer off the diving platform and go headfirst into participating and learn as you go.

For MOST Rainers, I suspect the wallflower approach is more common.  And every now and then I see some new members who would have been better off taking the wallflower approach!  In particular there seems to be a group of new members wanting to push the "I buy houses and you don't need a real estate agent to sell!!!" business model.  And that business model has its place, and IMO that place isn't this community.  Someone wanting to come into the Rain and push how worthless real estate agents are is about as welcome as a robber walking into a cop's bar.  Things aren't going to end well for the intruder.

And speaking of things ending well, another key choice every new member has to make is Rainer or Rainmaker.  Rainer is the free level of account, Rainmaker is paid, and there's a VERY BIG KEY DIFFERENCE. 

If you're a Rainer, your blogging is ONLY published to the members of ActiveRain.  Your posts do NOT get indexed by Google and they're NOT visible to home buyers and sellers.  So you might write a masterpiece about your local market, but your phone will NOT ring because your target audience never had a chance to see the post.  However, if you're on a paid Rainmaker account, your work IS indexed and findable by the public.

So depending on your target audience, perhaps you don't need a Rainmaker account.  If you're trying to provide a service to real estate agents,  Rainer probably gets the job done.  If you want to tell the world how they don't need an agent and only have a Rainer account, you're wizzing into a Cat 5 windstorm.

And once you have a Rainmaker account, how much or how little you participate is still up to you.  Blog daily, weekly, monthly or never.  Comment often or little.  Publish 230 market reports a week with comments disabled, maybe that works for you.

Bottom line, the full benefits of this community come from participating.  Building relationships, having experts just a click away that can help you with problems or support you through some rough times.

Or you can stay a wallflower.  Your choice.

Until next Tuesday, just Ask An Ambassador if you need help,

Bill of Bill & Liz aka BLiz

Posted by

Serving Warren County Ohio & Adjacent Areas


The Liz Spear Team of RE/MAX Elite
Elizabeth Spear, ABR, CRS, Ohio License SAL.2002007747

William (Bill) Spear, CRS, Ohio License SAL.2004011109  Kentucky 77938
Ask for us by name if you visit the office!

EHO Two locations: Lebanon & Mason, OH
Bill Direct:  513-520-5305
Liz Direct: 513-265-3004     
Fax: 866-302-8418


Search Homes:  Https://

Our Website:

 FacebooktwitterWordpressYouTube Pinterest






View Liz Spear Team of RE/MAX Elite Primary Service Area in a larger map


This entry hasn't been re-blogged:

Re-Blogged By Re-Blogged At
ActiveRain Community
Active Rain Newbies
Ask An Ambassador
ask an ambassador

Spam prevention
Show All Comments
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Hello Bill(and Liz) - finding the ActiveRain "secret sauce" is often elusive...kinda like going to that first dance while standing in the corner.  You have presented some good options for stepping out and onto the dance floor.  One foot in...

Nov 19, 2019 08:24 AM #1
Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

Good morning Liz and Bill Spear, excellent post. When I first joined ActiveRain, I was actively lurking for months. I didn't even know what I expected but just jumped in. On this platform, we can learn each and every day but most importantly, we can build relationships that will last a lifetime.

Nov 19, 2019 08:38 AM #2
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

Hi Bill,
Usually, a short time as a lurker is a good thing... figuring things out how one might fit into it all.  Then it's time to jump right in.  There is a place for everyone in the industry who is respectful of the value others bring to the table. 

As for the "you don't need a real estate agent", that's because they don't want the seller to be protected by being represented by their own agent with a fiduciary responsibility to them.

Nov 19, 2019 09:34 AM #3
Charita Cadenhead
Keller Williams Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

It's all about choice but choose wisely.  I was eaten alive by AR members after my 1st or 2nd choice.  Lucky for me I had a really good sense of humor.  But I agree that if lurking suits newbies best, then it's best that they take that route and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.  We all go at our own pace but when you take that first step it may be helpful to tread lightly.

Nov 19, 2019 11:06 AM #4
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Haha, we do live in interesting times around here!

I'm a sunflower! 🌻

So let's rock! 💃🎸🤟

Nov 19, 2019 11:30 AM #5
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I was never a wallflower here, but I did just stick my toe in.  I'm happy that the people where in 2008 made me feel welcome... of course I wasn't telling them they were worthless greedy people. LOL.  Within a month of being here I had asked for help on a couple of things and both times people came through with some good information. 

Nov 19, 2019 12:48 PM #6
Anna Banana Kruchten CRB, CRS
Phoenix Property Shoppe - Phoenix, AZ

Hi Bliz I joined in 2006 and did squat until 2008. At that point I drove in from the high board and never looked back. As for the other folks.....they're becomming more and more common in my neck of the woods.  Agency?  What agency and taking fiduciary duties seriously?

Nov 19, 2019 01:32 PM #7
Kathy Streib
Room Service Home Staging - Delray Beach, FL
Home Stager - Palm Beach County,FL -561-914-6224

Very well said Bill. I was a lurker until I could get the lay of the land. I haven't regretted one moment of it. IMO those who would cast negative thoughts about the worth of agents and embrace that business profile might be better off at one of the other social media sites like, dare I say, Facebook. 

Nov 19, 2019 02:49 PM #8
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Informative posting thank you

Nov 19, 2019 04:49 PM #9
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA

I am in it for the fun. I enjoy the repartee. I enjoyed learning. I enjoy knowing that real estate is of interest across the U.S. and in Canada but customs, rules, laws and expectations vary. So do the personalities in AR and that is delightful.

Nov 19, 2019 05:05 PM #10
Sham Reddy CRS
H E R Realty, Dayton, OH - Dayton, OH

Love this community of Rainers!

Another key choice every new member has to make is Rainer or Rainmaker.  Rainer is the free level of account, Rainmaker is paid, and there's a VERY BIG KEY DIFFERENCE. 

Nov 20, 2019 04:20 AM #11
Scott Seaton Jr. Bourbonnais Kankakee IL Home Inspector
SLS Home Inspections-Bradley Bourbonnais Kankakee Manteno - Bourbonnais, IL
The Home Inspector With a Heart!

I lurked for a while, but I love writing so it wasn't long before I wanted to start telling my stories, and I have a bunch of them. Gotta be a rainmaker.

Nov 20, 2019 06:13 AM #12
Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667,, Broker, Blackstone Realty Group - brokered by eXp Realty - Kalispell, MT
The House Kat

I think communication and participation are the key to coming back (and back and back) to AR!

Nov 20, 2019 06:29 AM #13
Carla Freund
Keller Williams Preferred Realty - Raleigh, NC
Carolina Life RealEstate & Relocation 919-602-8489

Great points here Bill & Liz. Everyone has to make a choice as to how they engage in the rain.

Nov 20, 2019 09:56 AM #14
Nick Vandekar, 610-203-4543
Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400 - Devon, PA
Tredyffrin Easttown Realtor, Philly Main Line

Good points and knowing your audience as always is vitally important.

Nov 20, 2019 10:17 AM #15
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®
Vision Quest Realty - Lewisburg, WV
Lewisburg WV, the go to agent for all real estate

I joined AR in 2008 and started blogging two months later... reading posts and comments really got me to start.

Nov 20, 2019 08:10 PM #16
Mimi Foster
Falcon Property Solutions - Colorado Springs, CO
Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor

Perfect post. Participate or don't. Rainmaker or don't. It's what you make of it. There are some of us who took years to get the hang of it. Glad I stuck around.

Nov 21, 2019 03:04 PM #17
Show All Comments

What's the reason you're reporting this blog entry?

Are you sure you want to report this blog entry as spam?


Liz and Bill Spear

RE/MAX Elite Warren County OH (Cincinnati/Dayton)
How Can We Help You? Just Let Us Know!
Spam prevention

Additional Information