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Stigmatized Properties - Do You Disclose?

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Real Estate Agent with Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 anitaclark160@gmail.com

What do murder, suicide, paranormal activity, sexual deviation, cult activity, famous adulteries and divorces, misfortune, violent crimes, and AIDS (see note), have in common?  

Stigmatized Property - Do You Disclose? - Courtesy of Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA, Warner Robins Real Estate, Warner Robins Realtors, Robins AFB RealtorAll have the potential to ruin a real estate deal because of the public perception associated with being a stigmatized property.  According to the National Association of Realtors®, stigmatized properties "are homes where a real or rumored event occurred that didn't physically affect the property but could adversely impact its desirability". 

Since Caveat Emptor (let the buyer beware) has been the generally accepted property law doctrine for buying pre-existing homes in the U.S. (exceptions include seller hiding material defects or making misrepresentations), does the seller have to disclose the non-material stigma?  Is the agent/broker bound to disclose this information to prospective buyers?  The answer to both is murky clear...Maybe, based on the state you live in. 

Stigmatized Property - Do You Disclose? - Courtesy of Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA, Warner Robins Real Estate, Warner Robins Realtors, Robins AFB RealtorCurrently, the majority of states have passed laws affecting stigmatized property disclosure but consensus has not been realized.  For instance, in Georgia, no disclosure is required unless the buyer (or buyers' agent) specifically asks for the information (Georgia Code 44-1-16).  Some states require phenomena get reported, others only require that murder be disclosed, some states call for other variations, while still others have no provisions at all.  The rules are often confusing with factors such as community ethics, consumer perception, and religious beliefs having an impact.  When in doubt, and authorized, it's usually best to disclose the information, even at the risk of losing the sale.         

If you decide to list or show a stigmatized property, here are a few general guidelines to follow:

  1. Check with your real estate commission to determine your state's disclosure laws
  2. When statutory guidance does not exist, separate fact from fiction, and determine the impact disclosure will have on the buyer, seller, and price of the property
  3. Consider not taking or retaining a listing when the seller refuses to disclose stigmatized information and/or prohibits you from discussing it
  4. Always maintain trust with your buyers by disclosing facts.  In instances where disclosure is not mandatory or prohibited, it's usually wise to provide the information anyway.

It's widely reported that stigmatized properties are often unsellable or sell for a fraction of their listed price, even several years after the incident and subsequent media attention.  While this is often true for highly publicized stigmatized listings, most properties only see a short-term reduction in purchase price.  According to a 2000 Wright State University study performed on over 100 stigmatized homes, the properties sold for only 3% less than comparable listings but stayed on the market 45% longer.  As the old adage goes, "time does heal all wounds".  

Lalaurie Mansion in New Orleans - Courtesy of Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA, Warner Robins Real Estate, Warner Robins Realtors, Robins AFB RealtorFamous stigmatized properties include the home sensationalized in the movie The Amityville Horror (112 Ocean Ave), the Lalaurie Mansion in New Orleans (recently owned by actor Nicholas Cage), the Ackley house in Nyack NY, the LA property where Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman were murdered, The Ramsey house (JonBenet), the CA compound where 39 Heaven's Gate cult members committed suicide, and even disgraced financier Bernie Madoff's houses.  

While most stigmatized homes are less appealing to potential buyers, a few do benefit from the notoriety.  For instance, The home of Heidi Fleiss (Hollywood Madame) sold for its asking price (appraised for more) and the Lizzie Borden residence in MA is now a successful Bed & Breakfast (with Lizzie Borden gift shop) that publicizes and allows guests to sleep in the rooms where the axe murders took place (Note: Lizzie was acquitted).  

The takeaway...

  1. As a buyer, always ask whether a property is stigmatized.  If it is, ask why
  2. As a seller, disclose everything that affects buyer willingness to purchase the home or changes the amount they are willing to pay
  3. As an agent, disclose everything you're allowed to.  Losing a potential sale is not worth losing your license over. 

Note: HIV patients are identified as disabled according to the Americans with Disabilities Act and are now protected from discrimination under the Federal Housing Act.  Disclosing a person has AIDS is breaking the law. 

 

Comments(31)

Kara Casamassina
International Property Management Group, LLC - Aiken, SC
Boomers and beyond

awesome post Anita :)  disclose disclose disclose is what I always say!!  

Oct 11, 2010 05:36 AM
Gail C. Harris
Resource Network, LLC SFR, AHWD, ACRE, SMAR Board Director - Chesapeake Beach, MD
Reach the BEACH with Gail C. Harris (cell: 703.868

Disclose, disclose, disclose.  :)

Oct 11, 2010 11:33 AM
Bob & Leilani Souza
Souza Realty 916.408.5500 - Roseville, CA
Greater Sacramento Area Homes, Land & Investments

Excellent post, Anita! I think that secrets are hard to keep among neighbors, so whatever is "not" disclosed by the seller will more than likely eventually be disclosed by a neighbor...it's just a matter of time. Disclose, disclose, disclose! :)

Leilani

Oct 11, 2010 11:52 PM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Gail...can't be any more clear that that.  Disclose!

Leilani...thanks.  Absolutely true.  The neighbors will happily disclose anything that was missed.

Oct 12, 2010 12:10 AM
Todd Clark - Retired
eXp Realty LLC - Tigard, OR
Principle Broker Oregon

Always a danger as you never know how the value might be affected by different events. I've heard it argued every way possible and I agree with both sides, It is a dangerous line to walk when it comes to states regulating such disclosures as their is no physical attribute that is wrong with the house, it is just a view. But, usually if you want to know about a house, the best person to ask is a neighbor, they will tell you anything and everything about a house even if you don't want to know.


Oct 14, 2010 08:34 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Todd...Isn't that the truth about neighbors!

Oct 14, 2010 11:11 AM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator

Just mentioned your article at the end of http://www.cinchcast.com/georgiafha/101710 :) I called it "Haunted Houses"

Oct 15, 2010 10:27 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Ken...THANKS so much for the "shout out".  I hope those that wander here because of your endorsement find the article informative.

I reciprocated by writing a comment on my Facebook page with a link to your CinchCast so others can listen to your full message.

Oct 15, 2010 11:01 AM
Anonymous
Janet Fowler

Yes I agree, always err on the side of disclosure!

Oct 15, 2010 11:47 AM
#21
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Janet...I absolutely agree.  When in doubt, disclose.

Oct 15, 2010 12:44 PM
Bob & Leilani Souza
Souza Realty 916.408.5500 - Roseville, CA
Greater Sacramento Area Homes, Land & Investments

Anita, in the spirit of Halloween and haunted houses, I am re-blogging your post! :)

Leilani

Oct 22, 2010 10:24 PM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Thank you Leilani!  I appreciate it (and you).

Oct 23, 2010 12:30 AM
Don Spera
CR Property Group, LLC - East York, PA
Serving York and Adams County, PA

I make it a point to disclose all that I know.  I would rather tell them everything before they buy the home.  It would be nothing worse than the Buyer talking to the neighbor next door and finding out something of a critical nature.  Remember, they do "Sue All The Bastards".

Oct 23, 2010 12:31 AM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Anita, I have suggested this post. Great thought provoking post.

Apr 30, 2011 01:47 AM
Carol Zingone
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Florida Network Realty - Jacksonville Beach, FL
Global Realtor in Jax Beach, FL - ABR, CRS, CIPS

Anita, a great post, and it's smart as we all know to disclose; otherwise, the buyers find out after the sale, and that is not a good way to do business.

Apr 30, 2011 01:53 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Absolutely right Don, disclose when unsure.

Gita...thanks for the nudge.  ;-)

Carol...definitely not the way to conduct our business nor is it worth losing our licence over.  Disclose!

Apr 30, 2011 01:55 AM
Sally Dunbar
Lyon Real Estate, Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento Area) - Fair Oaks, CA
Fair Oaks Realtor - Fair Oaks Homes for Sale

Anita - great question, but the answer isn't always obvious when you are faced with it as a listing agent.

I once listed a home where unknown to the seller, there had been a murder suicide there about 30 years ago.  I knew, because I had lived in the area then.  Do I disclose what has now become a total shock to my sellers???

I asked our attorneys (California) and they said that there are no case laws or statutes that require me to disclose a death older than 3 years.  Further, to do so would potentially bring harm to my sellers with no law requiring me to do so.

So the attorneys said to not disclose unless my sellers wanted me to.

Back to when I told my sellers.... they were shocked, but after thinking about it a few minutes, they said "We know where it happened!  Our daughter came to visit after we bought our home.  After spending the night, she refused to go into the XXX room again.  She said it gave her a creepy feeling!"  enter the woo-woo ghost music.....

Apr 30, 2011 02:15 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Great response Sally.  If your sellers didn't want it disclosed, the event was over 30 years ago, and your lawyer was onboard, it sounds like you took the right course of action for this property. 

Is something that happened 30 years ago going to matter to most buyers...I doubt it but everyone is different and like you said, your daughter got the creeps.

Apr 30, 2011 02:44 AM
Anne M. Costello
Weidel Realtors - Yardley, PA

Sally raised a very interesting dilemma - especially after the disclose, disclose, disclose. Can the seller prevent you from disclosing the information when it is not a material defect? Who decides the material defect. Also, in the age of google, what is ever kept sercet?

 

 

Apr 30, 2011 12:42 PM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Anne...It's possible something that happened 30 years ago that only got limited local exposure may not be on Google (or at least very easy to locate) but you're right too.  LOL  Personally, unless prohibited I will disclose everything and err on the side of caution. 

Apr 30, 2011 12:53 PM