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Buyers - Five Things to Consider About Income

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with The Jordon Wheeler Group GA License# 264359

Rules around income requirements and income verification have tightened in the mortgage industry, and it is important for buyers to know what to expect from lenders.  Here are five general guidelines about income for buyers to consider:

  1. Lenders look at gross income (income before taxes and other deductions) when trying to qualify buyers for a mortgage.
  2. Lenders must document the source of a buyer's income for most loans.  Lenders will request two months or more of current pay check stubs from buyers.
  3. Lenders may or may not count 'extra' income depending on underwriting guidelines.  'Extra' income includes overtime pay, bonuses, special incentives, and other income that not regularly earned.  Underwriting guidelines will determine what income can be counted and what income cannot be counted.
  4. Lenders may verify income against buyers' tax return.  For this reason lenders will require permission from buyers to obtain tax returns that have been filed.  This point can be really sticky for some buyers because of the large gap between paycheck income and tax return income.  Self employed people taking large amounts of deductions can be seriously impacted by this comparison.
  5. Lenders have to compare income with expenses to determine debt to income ratio - a.k.a. DTI ratios.  There are two DTI ratios lenders calculate for buyers.  There is the front end ratio which only looks at the amount of monthly mortgage payment compared to the amount of monthly income.  And the second calculation is the back end ratio which compares all monthly expense to monthly income.

UPDATE 08/26/14 - There are some loan programs available that require no documentation of income.  They do require significant down payment (20% to 40% or more), and the interest rate tends to be higher due to the higher associated risk.  Credit scores are still a consideration.

Buyers, please note that I am not a mortgage professional or lender, but I am a professional real estate broker working to educate you for your first purchase or next purchase.  For more information on purchasing in metro Atlanta or other real estate related questions, please call 404 418 8092 or 404 246 3210.  Thank you!

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Ralph Gorgoglione
Metro Life Homes - Palm Springs, CA
California and Hawaii Real Estate (310) 497-9407

What a great post! Thank you for sharing this post.

Mar 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Diane McDermott
Realtor®, GRI, Landis e2 Real Estate, LLC - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte NC Real Estate Market

Jordan, great points for those who are considering buying a home, especially the debt ratio factor

Mar 30, 2011 11:46 AM
Kevin Kueneke
Caliber Home Loans - Encinitas, CA
San Diego Mortgage Banker

Jordon - great post for your buyers.

RE: #4...lenders WILL require federal tax returns, regardless of income source, and WILL verify with the IRS that the tax returns provided match the returns on file with the IRS.  Buyers are required to sign an IRS 4506T form which allows lenders to do the transcript verification. 

For self employed borrowers that will need their 2010 income to qualify (lenders typically use a 24 month average and maybe 2008 was very low), verifying the income with the IRS can be tricky at this time of year and will get worse as we approach April 15th.  It can take 4-8 weeks for the returns to "show up" in the IRS' system.  No transcripts, no loan. 

We request the IRS transcripts from the IRS as part of our pre-approval process, makes for a smoother escrow.

Thanks again for the post.

Mar 30, 2011 11:51 AM
Jamille King
Keller Williams Realty River Cities - Columbus, GA
Realtor & CDPE, Homes for Sale or Rent in Columbus, GA

I have started asking buyers to bring their Tax returns to me before we write any offers. Taxes are causing a lot of deals to fall apart.

Mar 30, 2011 12:32 PM
Hannah Chan, GRI
Hannah Chan,CDPE,GRI CRS, CLHMS( Cary-Raleigh Realty, Inc) - Cary, NC
Broker with a Serving Heart!

Great post and tips for buyers and realtors!

Mar 30, 2011 01:13 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Thanks for the good read tonight....  I like to get tips anytime.

 

Patric a/Seacoast NH & ME

Mar 30, 2011 01:48 PM
Rose King
David Tracy Real Estate - Friendswood, TX
Friendswood / Pearland / Houston Bay Area

This is a great post, Jordon! Buyers need to know these things ahead of time. I've had clients who seem to make plenty of money, but once the lender takes a look at things, they barely qualify! Thanks for sharing!

Mar 30, 2011 04:14 PM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

A very  well written post.  Buyers will be better off if they undertand what the lender will be looking for  and give them the opportunity to get all the needed information together.  In some cases, they may need to "clean" up some issues.

Mar 30, 2011 04:18 PM
Maya Swamy
Funds Available - Long Beach, CA
Ph.D. Long Beach, CA - fundsavailable.com

You might want to add that they must have been in their current field of work for two years. Also if they have a second job to supplement their income they will need to have hld it for at least a year. Some lenders will demand two years on the second job too.

Mar 30, 2011 06:35 PM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Jordan:

good information for first time home buyers.  Buyers need to know what price home they can qualify before they start looking.  Otherwise it is just a waste of time.

Mar 30, 2011 06:39 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Thanks for the post. I talked about the same things to two prospective buyers this week.

Mar 30, 2011 10:38 PM
Cheryl Ritchie
RE/MAX Leading Edge www.GoldenResults.com - Huntingtown, MD
Southern Maryland 301-980-7566
It is always good to review the basics. Thanks for the update on those basics.
Mar 31, 2011 01:39 AM
Randy Harden MBA
CENTURY 21 Wieder Realty - Pompano Beach, FL
www.RERandy.com

This is all really good material for a buyer to take into account. After being a Realtor for several years I decided to start doing mortgages to for a better understanding of what needs to be done in order to qualify for a loan. I see that a lot of buyers don't know or take into account their employment status. If you are in your job for less than 2 years, you are going to have a problem. If your job is elsewhere and you "telecommute" to a different state you could also get denied. It just happend in my office with two banks.

Mar 31, 2011 02:09 AM
Eric Pepper
Atlanta, GA

Jordan,

An excellent blog.  A Realtor who shows people a home without a solid pre-qual ( solid meaning the lender has seen all income and asset documents, a credit report, and run DU) is a tour guide.  It is refreshing to see a Realtor explaining all this to his clients.

A lender looks at several things: credit score, income, assets, and the collateral (value of the home).  It used to be a loan could be obtained with just one of these items.  Now, it takes all of them.

I am a mortgage loan officer and licensed financial advisor.  My responsibility, as I see it, is to get the right mortgage for my client in light of their house needs and their long and short-term financial goals.  It amazes me that after several years of "foreclosure crisis", I still see people willing to become house poor.  They have a beautiful home, but can't afford to go to Chili's for dinner and their retirement plan goes unfunded.  

Mar 31, 2011 04:37 AM
Mike Yeo
3:16 team REALTY - Frisco, TX

Great points! Most people get prequalify but you wonder if they really understand what of their financial situation was used to come to that conclusion.

Mar 31, 2011 07:05 AM
Jordon Wheeler
The Jordon Wheeler Group - Fairburn, GA
J W Group Real Estate Sales and Service

Everyone - thanks for the great comments.  I have learned even more through our shared experiences.  We definitely have to do more with our buyers in educating them along with our mortgage professionals to get deals done successfully. While I try to make the entire home buying process as simple as possible, there are many points to cover before we start looking at properties. 

'Potential' buyers sometimes get perturbed that we don't just jump in the car and go see their favorite listing while we are still waiting for a solid pre approval.  But it is to everyone's benefit that we line up the financial 'ducks' before spending time and expense looking at listings.

Best of success to everyone who has posted!

Mar 31, 2011 07:28 AM