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A lender DID NOT SAY THAT! WoW

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Mortgage and Lending with Gateway Mortgage Group NMLS# 1290123

OK, so after hanging up the phone with a client in trouble, I felt obligated to write a quick post about this. I will not use names or any personal information but this is a real live situation. I am completely AMAZED that a servicing lender would make such a comment. This person happens to be in the mortgage business as a loan officer but can't do the loan through their company so I have been contacted for assistance.

A troubled home owner in AZ contacted me to see what options might be available to them in order to keep their home by refinancing it or even sell it to avoid foreclosure. The problem was the current loan was an adjustable rate and had adjusted twice. This caused the interest rate to increase by like 4%. The home owner was current on the mortgage but the increased interest payments were causing late payments on other debts. I evaluated the financial situation and there just is not enough money coming in to pay everything every month so something is in need. I looked at refinancing the home and it was over 125% loan to value so this was not an option. I may be listing this property as a short sale in the near future but figured the owner should contact the lender to see if they would be willing to reduce the interest rate or convert it into a fixed loan without looking at the loan to value. There are several options the lender can offer in order to save the clients home and prevent getting the home back through foreclosure. 

I had the owner submit a complete financial statement to the lenders loss mitigation department for them to review. When they contacted the home owner to discuss this situation, the representative said to the home owner......"With all due respect, with you being in the mortgage industry, why in the world did you select an ARM as your loan program?" The owner did not have a good reply other than they felt values would allow a refinance when the arm was due, but, that was not the case. All I could say was I am sorry and shocked. The lender then went on to say well why don't you short sale the property along with another mind boggling statement. The statement was well since you are not currently late on your payments, there is nothing we can do.

No come on, we all know arm's are risky but doesn't this servicer buy loans? Didn't they buy this adjustable rate mortgage the home owner is in? I think this is a totally ridiculous statement this servicing lender would make about a loan program they are servicing. I told the owner to contact one of the media companies as they would love to eat up this servicer but they did not want to be exposed of their situation, which is understandable.

I also told the owner they should have said "you know, you are right and do you mind if I ask why would you service a loan that is going to end up in foreclosure where you will lose 50k or more? How many ARM's are you currently servicing? If you knew they were bad, why would you sell them or purchase them on the secondary market?"

I am at a loss for this specific situation having a lender who is trying to buy homes through foreclosure. Thank goodness, I know who this servicer is and will not send any loans to them or make sure my loan doesn't go to them because in this market, that is how you go out of business. I guess we can say good luck to you servicer and best wishes trying to make you money back on this one!!!

Posted by

Michael Martell

Licensed Mortgage Originator (AZ and WA)

Stearns Lending

NMLS# 1290123

7850

Frances C. Rokicki
Fran Rokicki Realty, LLC - Bolton, CT
Broker-Mentor,CRS
In all honesty, no one has a crystal ball.  If the market had kept up at the pace it was going, these folks would probably have been okay with the refinance. So many folks put their home last and go out and buy, buy, buy on credit.  When the bills get high again, the easy answer used to be refi.  Get rid of that credit card debt.  What happened to buying what you could afford?  Paying in cash.  I bet more folks will do that now. I do feel bad for the folks who have over extended themselves.  I would suggest that they cut back on their lifestyle and try to keep on a strict budget.  As far as this lender who was rude to you, that is totally uncalled for. We all need to work together as a team to help the folks that we can.
Oct 27, 2007 09:27 AM
Lisa Epstein
Jay Epstein State Farm Insurance - Ukiah, CA
Mike,You say you won't ever use that servicer again, but who has control over the end servicing of their loan?  Maybe you meant that you would never originate with them again.  I'd have to disagree with that line of thinking, though.  The situation you describe could happen with any lender and any loan servicing company. You have to keep in mind that while the person your client spoke with on the phone is an employee of the servicing company; he/she is definitely NOT the loan servicer, only a low level customer service rep.  That low-level employee probably has no grasp of the complexity of the mortgage market and is not cognizant of the way the mortgage industry works outside his/her own cubicle/scripted responses and the people calling and trying to get out of their adjustable rates.  The irony in that whole exchange doesn't escape me, but getting upset at the stupidity of the csr is like knocking the uneducated peasant down for something his king is doing.  This servicer is no different than any of the others - the bottom line in the entire liquidity crisis is founded on greed, nothing less.  Everyone in our industry felt it and it fed off of itself.  No  matter what was in the borrower's best interest.  A couple of years ago, many borrowers were not interested in being educated about what type of loan might be in their best interest - they wanted the lowest rate and the most money - period.Liquidity Crisis/Servicing Bad Loans and Greed:  Borrowers wanted bigger houses and more money to spend so they could keep up with the Jones's.  Lenders dangled big YSPs and even bigger ones when LO's added a prepay to the loan.  Brokers and LO's yapped up the Lender's YSP bait while investors and servicers ate up the multi million dollars in packaged loans drooling over the enormous short and long term yields.  Meanwhile, that poor little uneducated CSR is probably sitting on a huge house payment and mounting credit card debt while getting some kind of sick joy out of chastising down-on-their-luck customers.  The pot loves to call the kettle...
Nov 04, 2007 09:23 AM