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AAH! THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD!

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Real Estate Agent with Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 NRDS ID#641625055

AAH! THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD!

 

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Many years ago, my husband and I bought a unit in a Homeowner's Association. We lived there for a total of 9 years. We were happy there for a total of 3, after which, we couldn't wait to get out.

 

It was brand new and being built in 3 stages. We were the 2nd family to move into Stage 1. Over the next couple of months, it filled up. We lived on a construction site.

 

We were a diverse group back then and we bonded over a shared decision to take a chance on the community and the challenges of moving into one still being built. They called us Pioneers.

 

Way before a cellphone or two could be found in everyone's pocket, a community in progress meant no electricity. Those early months translated into no phone or T.V. service, streetlights, etc. We moved in on the 4th of July. Late fall, power was finally installed.

 

It took several years for the entire complex to be finished. Way before it was completed, the community lost its magic. Where were the homeowners who used to gather at the clubhouse, the pool or in front of their homes just to catch up with each other's lives and chitchat about local events? What about the children who played together with no regard to age/gender or shared cultural history?

 

They had been replaced with gossiping, back-stabbing individuals; each with his own agenda. The ones who came after didn't understand that the ones who came before used to genuinely like each other. They forced the early homeowners to take sides. Communication broke down; rivalry sprang up.

 

It was never designed nor advertised as a 55+ community, nevertheless, older homeowners protested the entrance of school buses on the premises. They would have preferred the children wait on the main street.  The mature residents argued a playground in the common area would be an eyesore, although, after it was built, they took great pride in bringing their grandchildren. "Nostalgic America" refused admittance to the ice cream man because his music gave them a headache. But the most egregious behavior of all, was when they pitted young against old, the Pioneers against those who came after.

 

AND I TELL YOU ALL THIS BECAUSE...

 

lately, it saddens me to see all the posts that have been written about how ActiveRain is no longer the community it used to be. Many of the founding members have left; they're not interested in writing anymore. We could  choose to give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they have enough business or they've outgrown their need to blog about their daily real estate experiences.

 

More than likely, some became dissatisfied when the community changes were coming fast and furious. With 216,000 plus members, for sure, there were growing pains. Change isn't easy and it's not always perceived for the better. In the beginning, it was uncharted territory.

 

AR, you were small, once, and anyone who hung out here knew everyone else on the site. Your members made wonderful memories with virtual parties, milestone celebrations, and the hijacking of each other's posts. At times, the articles stayed on the blogroll for hours!

 

I wasn't here in the earliest days but I've also seen a difference. In my 15 months as an AR member, even I've seen it evolve to a point where, sometimes, I just don't recognize a lot of the faces anymore. Yes, things have changed. How could they not?

 

But like the HOA I once purchased which continues to thrive to this day, AR will live on.

 

Most relationships were never meant to last forever. When the time comes for you to move on, hold the memories you made in your head and close to your heart.

 

I know you had the time of your life!

 

Posted by

Jill Sackler

 

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Graduate REALTOR Institute 

Jill Sackler, NYS Real Estate Broker Associate based on Long Island's South Shore
 
 

Sunny Isles, Fl 

       Specializing in Lifecycle Real Estate 

"When your family doesn't fit your family home, I can help."
 
 
 
 
 
   

   

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Comments(35)

Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Jill, there were 200K plus when I became active.  So, I don't know what the changes have been.  I've enjoyed the folks I've followed, as well as those I've gotten to know.  I have found it hard to keep up lately though.  So, who knows, I might look up one day and say, "Hey, who are all of these people."  8-)

Nov 09, 2011 10:02 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

As with all things, people these days grow restless with the "same old, same old" and move on to other things over time.  There are a lot of newbies here on AR who bring new fire and life.  Where the old move on, the new revive and keep the community vibrant.

Nov 09, 2011 10:04 AM
Ron Marshall
Marshall Enterprises - Saint Michael, MN
Birdhouse Builder Extraordinaire

What a great post.  I don't know what it used to be like.  But, I am still very comfortable here.

And,

Congratulations!

on the featured post!

Nov 09, 2011 10:24 AM
Kathy Clulow
Uxbridge, ON
Trusted For Experience - Respected For Results

Jill - I may well be one of those you speak about because I am concerned about some of the statistics my web guy hubby put together.

Active Rain is all about change but not all change is good

Active Rain Is Still a community in progress
the day it stops progressing is the day it dies

There is much more to AR than a place
where the members gather at the water cooler,
the blog roll or the featured posts. 

..... we aren't all right and we certainly are not all wrong

Nov 09, 2011 10:32 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Bill - I know. There's a piece in all of us that struggles to hang on to what we know.

Will - Thanks so much! My first feature voted on by my peers.

Belinda - I feel exactly the same way. Great forum - great people.

Tammie - Yes, I've had lots of opportunity to make new friendships.

LOL Donne - You always say what the rest of us are thinking.

Debbie - I left that neighborhood a long time ago and now, I'm now going anywhere.

Nov 09, 2011 10:41 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Jennifer - You're right. We never have to forget any of our experiences. They make us who we are.

Joy - Thank you. I was getting sick of it and thinking about changing it but the feedback has been so great, I've reconsidered.

Allan - It's so much fun to be here. I sign on first thing in the morning. If someone hasn't written in a while, I worry about them.

Curtis - Thanks for saying that. You've made my day. BTW, I live minutes from where you grew up. Maybe someday, I'll get to the Napa Valley.

Marge - That sounds smart. Absorb all you can while staying out of trouble.

Sandy - Like with a first love or someone who's now deceased, we sometimes elevate them to levels of perfection where, in reality, they were only human like everyone else.

Nov 09, 2011 10:54 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Hi Ray - great to hear from you. You said it best, "learn from others and get better at what you do."

Will - You're the man!

Lloyd - Rising above it can never steer you wrong.

Thanks for stopping by, Mike. I had no idea you were so new. You write like a pro.

Bryan - "Where the old move on, the new revive and keep the community vibrant." I guess that's the way it has to be, but it's also the part that makes us sad.

Hi Ron - Thank you so much. I'm comfortable here too - even more comfortable, now. lol.

Kathy - I'm not clear about the statistics you speak of, but I'd be interested in hearing more.

 

Nov 09, 2011 11:05 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Jill - I've only been here 7 months, so my AR perspective is limited, but I have experienced that same sense of change in other sites and groups I've been involved with on the web these last 15 or so years. As a newcomer, I've been surprised and delighted by what's on offer here - the knowledge and the SEO power would be awesome by themselves, but it's the community that really strikes me as special. I don't necessarily love everything here, but AR does handle diversity of styles and ideas pretty well - most things, at least to my unpracticed eyes, seem to be pretty transparent. I have no idea if it was better before, but I think it's unique right now, and still a lot of fun.

Nov 09, 2011 11:55 AM
Ellen Caruso
Daniel Gale Sotheby's International Realty - Glen Head, NY

Jill, Unfortunetly, I know what you mean. Its like a marriage after the honeymoon, you still have to work at it. For me situations change and we change but the friends I have here will not, and I'll always make time for friends!

Nov 09, 2011 12:39 PM
Michelle Francis
Tim Francis Realty LLC - Atlanta, GA
Realtor, Buckhead Atlanta Homes for Sale & Lease

Jill, 

Interesting tie in.  Nothing stays the same.  We are seeing this in various communities we belong to. 

All the best, Michelle

Nov 09, 2011 12:53 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Hi Dick - Welcome and thank you very much for your thoughtful comment. Even as a newcomer, you seem to have a good handle on how this works. The knowledge and SEO power you get from being on AR are awesome. I don't think anyone would argue that.

Hi Ellen - Great analogy. How many times have I heard someone say, "it's just not the same after you get married." I guess we have to adapt. I feel very lucky to have met so many wonderful people  like yourself. That part of AR doesn't have to change.

Michelle - I think change and the ability to adapt to it is a universal concept. For some, it may be easier than for others, but I think everyone feels it a at least a little bit and that's when emotions emerge to complicate things.

Nov 09, 2011 02:38 PM
Kathy Clulow
Uxbridge, ON
Trusted For Experience - Respected For Results

Jill - Check out my last post in response to yours there is a link there

Nov 09, 2011 03:29 PM
Michael Dagner
Brokers Guild Classic - Denver, CO
Your Denver Homes Realty Expert

AR may not be the same as it used to, but the content is always fresh and informative.  That's what makes it so attractive. 

Nov 10, 2011 02:38 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

I could not agree more, Michael. I stay on top of my game by reading what the top real estate professionals in the business write.

Nov 11, 2011 12:26 AM
Adrian Willanger
206 909-7536 AdrianWillanger-broker.com - Seattle, WA
Profit from my two decades of experience

Jill-I've always been one that has embraced change and the challenges that go along with it, yes, lately it seems changes are happening at faster pace so I've learned to just enjoy the ride. Thanks for taking the time to share your memories.

 

Best

Nov 11, 2011 12:41 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Jill - am I the "oldest" (literally and metaphorically) here? 

You started with a startling story about being Pioneers. You said that you love it 3 years and could not wait to get out the rest of your time there.

And then you talk about AR. 

It was a sad comparison to begin with. As you so well said, the new resident did not understand Pioneers. Well, the overwhelmingly "new" commenters do not understand us (and I am not a Pioneer here, I was with the second wave so to say). There is something missing in the soul, that already was missing when you came, so you are comparing what you see to ... what?

The notion that it is change because of the size is not really an issue. AR was small, but it never became 219K+. It is just a number. People who tried to make sense of the numbers come to the number of active rainers vs. inactive rainers, and it is not 200,000, and it is not 20,000. Optimistic number was 8K-12K. 219K+ is the number of open accounts, but there are so many people, who opened and never came back, and who even do not know that they are members...

Ray Wilson (#14) put it right "AR is still a viable means of expression."

I agree. It used to be Heaven.

P. S. I think the changes did not come from the growth, they came from losing the sense of direction, and clear lack of vision. Jon Washburn had the vision... It was bigger than his wallet, and he was replaces with a better wallet, better organoization, but they lost the vision... so everything is neat, and clean, but the soul is gone

Nov 11, 2011 01:53 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Jill - sorry for occupying too much space here. Of course, the change started way before Market Leader got the reigns... there was a moment when the site was not performing, and we were told that it is a minor thing (they lied), and the new server was coming... 

I remember that then they fixed it )turned out - patched) and my daughter told me that this is way more serious and way more difficult, and there is no way in hell they fixed it, and I did not believe it. Then there was an issue again, and again, and again and worse and worse. 

It got to a point when this was simply a disaster. you would send a link to a blog to a customer, and they could not open it. Members started venturing out of AR, building their own sites, or using other platforms. This was like losing virginity. Before it was all in-house. Our love was undivided, and it was right here.

To use your comparison with the HOA neighborhood, imagine that you first had your own community, and met in your clubhouse, and did your own BBQs and it was fun and you loved it. And then something happened and you all started looking for the substitute, and started venturing out.

Now you no longer are in your clubhouse, but you still bump into your neighbors in other places, and there is a bit of a sense of Nostalgia, as the best part is in the past, not in the future. You are an adult, and you know that you will be venturing further, and seeing each other less. 

Like your school-mates. Cool to see them, but they are not your circle for a very long time

Nov 11, 2011 02:42 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Adrian - Keep on enjoying the ride. Good will come from it.

 

Hi Jon - 1)Not the oldest, but with the greatest longevity, perhaps?

2) I don't know if it was startling - just true - I could tell you much worse.

3) I wasn't clear as to your use of the word "sad." Sad as in a poor comparison or Sad as in emotionally upsetting?

Believe me, I understand that you feel AR is missing its soul. But I have to respectfully disagree that it is not due to its growth. You're right, a lot of people with accounts don't even write, so I have no clue what the percentage of Active vs. Inactive ratio is, but I don't think it's really important.

My point is that it was the people who gave and still give ActiveRain soul. The size of the group is relevant because with a small community, there is intimacy, there is a feeling of belonging, there is a feeling of unity and there is a quasi feeling of "us" against "them." You lose that in a much larger setting.

Think along the lines of a mom and pop shop vs. a franchise or a small business vs. a corporation.

4) You ask what I'm comparing it to? I can't tell you I know what it was like in the beginning because I wasn't here.

And yet, I feel fairly certain that I can guess what it was like here because all of life's experiences share common threads.

5) Ray Wilson is right.

6) I'm a fan of Jon Washburn and follow him on other social media.

7) I'm not sure that AR is lacking a sense of direction and clear vision. I just think with the new leadership, it's been broadened and revised and, probably, it's still feeling its way as it moves forward and it will take some additional time to clarify the mission of the organization.

I can hear the wistfulness in your "voice." Let's give it a little longer, okay?

If we lost you on AR, we would be losing a lot.

 

 

Nov 11, 2011 02:59 AM
Cindy Westfall
Premiere Property Group,LLC Portland Metro & Suburbs Oregon - Tualatin, OR
ABR,GRI Your Tualatin & Portland Metro Real Estate

Hi Jill, First off..congrats on this feature...gave me a huge smile to see it on the feature roll! I must have missed many of the posts about the changes in the AR community..and if they were negative, I'm glad I did. You and I have been blogging here about the same time and you were the first person to reach out to me with a phone call. I love that about AR..that it's the people that make it up. Just like cliques at school, we each have our people and blogs that we follow daily and get to know on a more personal level..and every now and again we notice another new blogger that we like and welcome them into our daily lives through blogging.

I for one am very glad that I found this wonderful place. I would never have gotten to know the people I have...and you being one of them is right on top there. Things change..and it's human nature for people to resist it...but in most cases it will happen whether we embrace it or not. Great post! Again..big smiles for you over here.

Nov 11, 2011 12:33 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

So great to see you, Cindy. When I didn't see your Wednesday column, I got worried since you've been known to blog away on vacation, etc. I was hoping it wasn't Shadow. I think your analogy to cliques is spot on. Maybe we can take our cue from Google Plus and call them circles since the term "cliques" (like when we were in school) has a negative connotation. This way, we can have the best of both worlds - A tremendous presence with serious SEO power (ActiveRain) and the ability for it to feel like we are coming home when we interact with the people of our choice (circles).

Nov 13, 2011 01:31 AM