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The help and my story of living in the "Deep South"

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I am a Navy brat.... My dad joined the Navy when I was 13 in 1974 and we started a whirlwind tour that started in Pensecola, Florida....By the time I got off the "boat" I had been to four different high schools... One of them twice... 

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My parents were interested in education....So when they got to Pensacola  they asked where the best school district was....They were told Gulf Breeze.....  In retrospect it couldn't have been the stellar education.... I got easy A's there and was so far behind when we got to LeMoore, CA (another story) that I failed 4 straight algebra tests....I am actually a math whiz (though I didn't know it yet... The science teacher didn't run labs because the boys were unruly...He had the thickest Mississippi drawl that could just put you to sleep...So why was it the best?

It was considered the best because it was "lily white".  That meant it wasn't integrated and people who didn't want their kids going to school with "other" people moved to Gulf Breeze.  There was a story that when a black family tried to move there the Klan burned a cross on their lawn for a week....I don't know if it was true but I believe it probably was....  There were no black families in Gulf Breeze at the time.....The apartment complex where we lived had some nice people in it and some real "red-necks". 

Good thing about being Jewish is that you don't wear your Judaism on your skin....I have never hid my religion but it is not obvious....  Once they found I was Jewish I was checked for horns....I have never before nor ever since had my head patted to see if I had horns....I didn't even know why they were doing it....After a while they just nicked named me "the Nigger loving Pollack Jew".  When they first gave me the name I smiled and I said I was only half Polish....  I was on the pier and the leader of the rednecks was talking how bad black people (That was not the word he used) smelled.   Because I was young and I was trying to stick up for others I asked him if he got close enough to smell them...  He looked at me in horror and coined the nickname...  My poor younger brother was beaten up and chased....That redneck in our development tried to run him off the pier with his motorcycle...He thought it was funny to watch my brother dive off the pier.... As an adult I could have handled it better...I had never encountered true obvious prejudice against either black people or Jews before... I should have figured out a better way to deal with the redneck (I had no choice about dealing with him).  As an adult I am embarrassed by the bait I used but I knew he would never get close to people different than himself and their conversation truly disgusted me...  Maybe that is why my poor brother was persecuted.... See a good old boy wasn't going to phyically hurt a girl but he did hurt my younger brother...Even in our own Synagogue it was obvious that there was a true distinction between white people and black people....

You don't have to feel to sorry for me...Dad's tour of duty only went for five months....Then on to the California desert.... From this experience I have never wanted to live in the "deep" south.... I am sure it is diffenent now but I don't really want to find out.... I have always tried to fight injustice and prejudice against other people, it doesn't matter the group.... One might say I am prejudiced against prejudiced people....

Recently I saw the movie "The Help"  (I am now reading the book)... It was really good....As I sat in the movie theater in 2011 I realized that 1975 wasn't so far from 1962 (when the book supposedly took place).... Then I realized that it was only seven years before I arrived in Pensacola that Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy were shot....It was only as I watched the movie did I realize that these were current events....At 13 five years seemed like forever....I recommend the book and movie for everyone... If we do not learn from history we are destined to repeat it....

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 Debbie Holmes

John L. Scott Real Estate

  

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Doug Rogers
RE/MAX Coastal Properties - Destin, FL
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Brave post! I sold a home in our garden district this summer that had a toilet in the garage. It gets pretty cold here in winter, and summer is best not considered. I can't imagine the ignorace that lead to such practice.

 That being said, things have improved. I live in an upscale community (homes in my neighborhood don't have wheels) that is integrated. Frankly the morning bus stop resembles a mini United Nations meeting! The diversity does enhance the quality of life. We still have a long way to go, but progress is being made.

Dec 17, 2011 02:12 AM
Debbie Holmes
John L. Scott - Boise, ID
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Please excuse any socially incorrect language....I wrote it as it happened....

Dec 17, 2011 02:13 AM
Ciara Brennan
Mass Homes Realty - Hanover, MA

I just watched that movie last night. It amazes me how much time and energy people can invest into disliking someone else.  The movie was great and I would also recommend it.

Dec 17, 2011 02:14 AM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
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"The Help" is outstanding. 

Dec 17, 2011 02:33 AM
Debbie Holmes
John L. Scott - Boise, ID
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@Doug  I am not sure I am brave.... I live my life and speak my mind.....  I stand up for what I believe in.... If I stand by and watch others get hurt I am complacent.... I am silently agreeing that it is OK to hurt others.... My kids do not believe me when I worry about prejudice.... When I worry about how people think about Jews.... When I worry about other groups being singled out and hurt....They know its wrong but they have never experienced it.... THat is wonderful!  That is true Progress...

Dec 17, 2011 03:24 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Debbie - I too saw The Help and while I knew that sourthern black people were persecuted so much more than anywhere else, the movie just really drove the injustice home, as so many other movies about the south often have.  I too grew up in the 70s and do remember seeing prejudice out here in SoCA too but never to the extent that was depicted in The Help.

Dec 17, 2011 05:54 AM
Debbie Holmes
John L. Scott - Boise, ID
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Prejudice still exists in our country.... Sometimes against blacks more often against Hispanics or Arabs or even Homesexuals.... It is important to fight injustice whereever we see it.... We all know when something is just WRONG.  What we did to black people is part of our history...It is not a nice part....And it shouldn't be glossed over...

 

Dec 17, 2011 06:03 AM
Anonymous
David Salzberg

My story:

 

http://davidsalzberg.blogspot.com/2011/12/my-life-in-1975.html

 

A couple of comments, the middle school in Gulf Breeze is 88% white, and 0.47% black.  Probably nothing has chnged.

Dec 17, 2011 09:11 AM
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Debbie Holmes
John L. Scott - Boise, ID
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Thank you David (my brother) for writing your account of our stay in Gulf Breeze Florida.... Your acount is so much more harrowing than mine.

LInk to David's Story

Please read this his account his much better written then mine.....

Dec 17, 2011 09:43 AM
Cindy Westfall
Premiere Property Group,LLC Portland Metro & Suburbs Oregon - Tualatin, OR
ABR,GRI Your Tualatin & Portland Metro Real Estate

Hi Debbie, I recently saw the "The Help" on the airplane and as I watched it, I knew those predudices exsisted, but fortunately they weren't in my world growing up. It's interesting when I look back and realize that my parents (from Iowa and Maryland) introduced us to diversity very young. My Mom was a church choir leader and we would go into NYC and spend the night with people of other cultures. Our church was mixed with many from Puerto Rico and El Savador. We were raised to look at the person, not the color of their skin. I love that you stood up for others when you knew it wouldn't be good for you...it shows your character. Now off to read David's post.

Dec 17, 2011 10:10 AM
Debbie Holmes
John L. Scott - Boise, ID
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@Cindy David and I had a pretty diverse setting before moving to Gulf Breeze.... The funny thing is we didn't really to talk a lot about it.  We both knew it had happened and we were freaked out by it but we never really compared notes....I always had thought his experience was similar to mine.  I guess its sometimes good to be a girl.... I had no physical assaults (unless you call head patting an assault).  I didn't realize that David's principal was part of the problem.... Nobody ever paddled me, beat me up, threw me off the Pier,  knocked me off gym equipment .... It is funny it happened so long ago and we are close... Maybe we both wanted to forget about Gulf Breeze Florida...  It still is basically segregated with 0.47 Negro population in their school.... I guess they did not progress in the last 37 years....

Dec 17, 2011 10:52 AM
Ronald Curtis
Sapphire Associates - West Palm Beach, FL
Negotiating the best price and terms for my Buyers

Hello Debbie......

Loved your post.

As a Yankee, enrolled in the University of Florida in the '40's, I can tell you about predudice.

We had three fraternity brothers who were visiting the black neighborhood in Gainesville in 1947 to get them to enroll the blacks to be able to vote. At the time, Henry Wallace was running for president as a third party candidate. I was the president of our fraternity at the time, and I had friends in school, who told me that they better get them out of town, or they would be lynched. Anyone remember about the three kids who went to Mississippi, and would up dead courtesy of the KKK?????????? Bottom line..... a cross was burned in front of our fraternity house.

This story could go on and on, but it is not something that the majority of people want to learn about.

Again, Debbie.... Thank you for your courage to tell this story.

RJ

 

Dec 17, 2011 12:27 PM
Debbie Holmes
John L. Scott - Boise, ID
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@Ronald Thank you!   Were the three boys your frat brothers?  Read my brothers  story too... I posted it here.

Dec 17, 2011 12:41 PM