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The Scary Part….It works!

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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

Many people in my experience love to DIY. Many more fancy themselves as DIY experts. There is no doubt with each finished project comes more confidence in ones abilities. Sometimes it’s over confidence.

Incorrectly wired electric panel in a Connecticut garageNow I have no issue with anyone putting on a tool belt and tackling a home project. The thing I do have a problem with is when people delve into areas that absolutely should be left to the professionals. This would also include certain contractors as well.

The other afternoon while inspecting a home, I discovered one of the most horribly unsafe electric panels I have seen in some time. Anyone can tell the work is 100% amateur. It’s a mess, but…..

It works!

Which is the scary part of electricity and wiring, even when it’s wrong it will work. This of course this gives the installer a false sense of accomplishment. Really it’s not the electricity that’s wrong, it’s the method employed to harness it safely. After all electricity is a force of nature, it doesn’t conform to any of mans’ rules.

Incorrectly wired electric panelAs bad as this first panel looks there was a second panel in the basement that looked beautiful.

It was also incorrectly wired.

The second panel was added for the newer kitchen and bathroom. I was told the person who did the work on the kitchen and bathroom was a master carpenter. The work looked very professional. I would also guess the master carpenter decided to perform the electrical work. The work in the rooms upstairs was neat and professional, so was the work in the electric panel. To the untrained eye everything would look okay.

And everything works!

It is also once again potentially unsafe.

When it comes to electricity, one should remember that if it works, doesn’t mean it’s safe.

 

James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
NRSB #8SS0022
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

 ASHI Certified Inspector

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Joshua Frederick
Home Inspector for ASPEC Residential Services, LLC - Defiance, OH
Home Inspector in Defiance & all of Northwest Ohio

Your pics just gave me an idea for dinner tonight.... spaghetti!  Thanks!

Feb 02, 2012 12:37 AM
Gabrielle Kamahele Rhind
KGC Properties LLC, Tucson Property Management & Real Estate - Tucson, AZ
Broker/Owner

GOOD MORNING JAMES!  You've been to my in-laws home!  Ha ha ha!  Oh yeah - that is scary!

Feb 02, 2012 12:46 AM
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REAL ESTATE REFERRAL NETWORK - Asheville, NC
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OH MY GOODNESS! The first photo almost made my hair sizzle...just looking at it! As you say,j ust because it works (when it comes to electricity ) does NOT mean it is safe!

 

 

 

Feb 02, 2012 12:47 AM
Chris Hardy
Elevations Real Estate, LLC www.BuyFortCollinsHomes.com - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Real Estate

James - I'm one of those DIY enthusiasts (and former contractor).  Aren't you amazed that more stuff doesn't just burn down?  Great photos!  As a matter of curiosity is the main problem with the sub-panel the fact that he used thinline breakers for the 220 feeds rather than specific 220 breakers?  Great post!  

Feb 02, 2012 01:08 AM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Good morning James,

Once again, a perfect blog to point out the importance of having a professional home inspection...just because it looks good, doesn't mean it is good.

 

Feb 02, 2012 01:09 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

gotta love the "can-o-worms" panels---can take a lot of time to sort out what is going on---or result in the electrician having to come and figure it out

Feb 02, 2012 05:22 AM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

A lot of them work until they heat up and then it is "911 What is your emergency?" time.

Feb 02, 2012 08:49 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jim, Hey if it work, well no still not right. It does remind me of the documentary on these shanty town electricians in South America wiring up homes from poles. I was thinking "how long is the average installers life?", I guess if you are older and still doing it a while you are good ;)

Feb 02, 2012 04:31 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Extremely poor workmanship, but much more common that we think. The sad part about this, it isn't always done by a do-it-yourselfer.

Feb 02, 2012 11:30 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Joshua, It sure looks like spaghetti.

Gabrielle, No yours is scarier :)

Janeanne, Yep, that's a sizzler all right :)

Chris, No those are single pole, space saver breakers (110). The issue with the panel is at the neutral terminal.

Lisa, Yes indeed. Looks can be deceiving. 

Charlie, This one was easy, get an electrician to sort all out :)

Jack, Lol. For sure.

Don, Or lucky.

Joe, No it's not. In fact I believe it's done way more by the "professional". 

Feb 03, 2012 08:30 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

 I learned in math that two negatives make a positive, so this case should get a pass.

Mother Nature will enforce her codes though with impunity.

Like I said, with impunity.

Feb 03, 2012 11:26 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Jay, Remember you don't fool with mother nature. She don't play :)

Feb 04, 2012 12:04 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

That upper panel looks just like the way my dad's FPE panel was wired when he built his house; it was just a rat's nest of wires.  He has since replaced it, of course.

Feb 05, 2012 01:44 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Reuben, Now that sounds scary. 

Feb 06, 2012 12:25 AM