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Why the Short Sale Approval Letter Should Match the HUD

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Real Estate Agent with Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker DRE #00697006

pia the ocicatNobody likes to be backed into a corner. Which is why a buyer's agent in a short sale needs to verify whether the short sale approval letter matches the HUD. The HUD should match the purchase contract. If there are variances in the fees, guess who is likely to pay them? I'll give you a hint, it's not the seller.

In California, we have California Civil Code 580e which says, among other things, sellers can't be required to contribute to a short sale. A lender can't make a seller bring money to the table to close. This means all of the sellers' closing costs need to be paid from the proceeds of sale. There is no out-of-pocket expense. If there is it needs to be disclosed on the HUD and approved by the lender, and very few banks are approving a seller contribution. They don't want to violate the law, at least not openly.

To illustrate getting backed into a corner, the photo in my blog today is a picture of Pia at the vet yesterday. She had a small bump next to her ear. It was cancerous. She wasn't very happy about going to the vet. We had to trick her to get her into the carrier. And of course, she told the other two cats to run under the bed and stay there. She projects little kitty brain waves, and they all speak the same silent language.

As a buyer's agent, don't be silent. Speak up when you get the approval letter and ask if it matches the HUD. Ask if there are any fees the bank has not authorized the seller to pay.

Please note that if the bank has approved a credit toward the buyer's closing costs, it's kind of silly to demand that a buyer will not pay a fee on behalf of the seller. How are you going to say, hey, thanks for $6,000, but I'm not paying your $150 doc prep fee?

A buyer's agent won't know if all the fees were approved unless she asks or the listing agent volunteers the information. Not every Sacramento short sale agent understands how to do a short sale or the inner workings of a HUD. A buyer is not entitled to a copy of the seller's HUD. But a buyer is entitled to know if there are any fees that were not approved. Especially if the buyer is expected to pay.

Photo: Pia at the vet, Adam Weintraub

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Elizabeth Weintraub is co-partner of Weintraub & Wallace Team of Top Producing Realtors, an author, home buying expert at The Balance, a Land Park resident, and a veteran real estate agent who specializes in older, classic homes in Land Park, Curtis Park, Midtown, Carmichael and East Sacramento, as well as tract homes in Elk Grove, Natomas, Roseville and Lincoln. Call Elizabeth Weintraub at 916.233.6759. Put our combined 80 years of real estate experience to work for you. Broker-Associate at RE/MAX Gold. DRE License # 00697006.

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Comments(13)

Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Wish Virginia would get on board and pass some seller protection like this.  As for Pia, I hope she heals quickly and finds herself cancer free.  

Jun 27, 2012 02:33 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

Poor Pia, and ah yes, they all have to match don't they.  Recently we had to an 11th hour ammendment because the seller side closing fees were lowered. 

Jun 27, 2012 06:58 AM
Rosemary Brooks
BMC Real Estate - 209-910-3706 - Stockton, CA
The Mother & Daughter Realty Team

They all have to match is key.  Thank you for putting it so clearly.  Short sales are here to stay for a while and all outs and ins need to be clear in every transaction.

Jun 27, 2012 07:09 PM
James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

Good morning Elizabeth hope all is going well.  I do like your new photos with that being said enjoy the day I got to go

Jun 27, 2012 09:24 PM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi Elizabeth, are you saying the pre-qual has to match the HUD or the GFE.  In Florida it is the GFE.

Jul 28, 2012 11:12 PM
Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

Good word of warning, Elizabeth.

Jul 28, 2012 11:18 PM
Dorte Engel
RE/MAX Leading Edge - Bowie, MD
ABC - Annapolis, Bowie, Crofton & rest of Maryland

Dear Elizabeth,

Our HUD contains a comparison section for projected vs actual numbers.

Jul 29, 2012 01:02 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Hey Bob and Dorte: I'm talking about the HUD matching the short sale approval letter. The HUD that escrow or title prepares and submits to the lender to induce approval. If those numbers don't match, your buyer could be hosed because it means the bank did not approve the purchase offer the way it was written.

Jul 29, 2012 01:16 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

I wish all banks would send a HUD back with their approval letter.  A little more specificity would help for some. 

Last minute surprises aren't fun for any involved.  Especially in short sales where the process can already be trying for all concerned. 

Jul 29, 2012 03:34 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Good information, thanks.

Jul 29, 2012 04:07 AM
Sylvia Jonathan
Coldwell Banker Platinum Properties - Irvine, CA
Broker Associate, SFR

Excellent post, Elizabeth. The listing agent needs to communicate well with the selling agent, because the selling agent must manage the buyer's expectations.

Jul 29, 2012 04:11 AM
Manny Rosa
Rosa Agency - Belleville, NJ
New Construction - Union & Essex Counties, NJ
Agreed, Elizabeth. I would add that generally the buyer's settlement agent is responsible for preparing the HUD. In NJ, most buyers are represented by an attorney who also acts as closing agent. In my experience, most NJ attorneys won't be bothered with getting involved in the preliminary HUD preparation, they only want to prepare the final HUD. As your post illustrates, this can cause some confusion down the line. A a NJ short sale realtor with a support team, my office will often prepare the prelim HUD for short sale review purposes. It's our best effort version, but not always perfect. We try to prep all parties involved as to this point.
Jul 29, 2012 05:01 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Great post and really good info for buyers and sellers of Short Sales to know and understand.

Jul 31, 2012 01:02 PM