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Can't Care Less...

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

I have a difficult client, a “know everything” type of guy. He flipped a condo, then bought 2 more, but then the market crashed, and he could not keep up with the payments.

He decided to declare bankruptcy. We begged him to allow us to short sell the condo prior to declaring bankruptcy, but he did not listen.

The court was in New York and the property was in Florida. The lender did not foreclose, so the condo was still in his name, and the maintenance fees and taxes started accruing.

I warned him, but he said it was their problem. He said he couldn’t care less.

Few years forward, unpaid association dues and late fees, which started accumulating from the day of bankruptcy, were already in the tens of thousand, and taxes were not paid for 3 years.

The guy kept saying he couldn’t care less.

Then the condo was sold at Tax Deed Sale…Can't care less

He called me a few days ago. He is trying to buy a house in New York. He is married now and has a child, and a 1-bedroom condo is too small for him. He applied for the mortgage. Everything seemed fine, but then something did not work out, so the whole process started from scratch, and while it was supposed to close a week ago, it was still not closed. The mortgage broker made them pay extra money, pay off all credit cards, so they spent more than what they were anticipating, and yet they could not close…

I listened to him trying to put together the pieces, and eventually I realized that the condo, which he “gave to the Bankruptcy Court” and couldn’t care less about, was his problem. The Tax Deed Sale was less than 3 years ago, FHA dropped him, and it seems that it somehow affected him with conventional loan…

He is frustrated. He asked me what to do.

Well, do the short sale before the bankruptcy. He would have no problem, if he followed the advice.

When you can’t care less today, it may bite you tomorrow.

The guy is a difficult client. He is a sharpshooter, who never misses his foot…

Image is by David Goehring via Flickr.com

 

Andrey Sokurec
Homestead Road - Minneapolis, MN
Owner at Homestead Road a leading house buyer MN

Great inspirational story, Can't Care Less lols :D 

Thank you for sharing this here

Sep 22, 2016 03:34 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

What is the old saying where is Sympathy in the Dictionary?:)) not wanting to be calloused ... some people deserve what they get...Endre

Sep 22, 2016 03:39 PM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

Well, now it is kind of too late  to ask for an advice... 

Sep 22, 2016 04:00 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Andrey Sokure - it is a sad story, not really inspirational. Вы не иначе как выходец из России?

Sep 22, 2016 11:23 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Endre Barath, Jr. - now all is left for me is being sympathetic. Now I can't go back and undo what has been done.

What I hate I hate is that we were suggesting then was easy to do. After all, if you can't care less, do it so that you would minimize potential unpleasant surprises in the future

Sep 22, 2016 11:26 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Inna Ivchenko - sort of. Every time something happens to him, he calls, and every time I ask him, why he did not call BEFORE he starts doing something...

Like if he decided to buy a house, why not call and say that he decided to buy a house? Why not ask for advice on the agent, on the mortgage broker, anything?

Why every time the conversation ends in "I did not think about it. Next time I will"?

Sometimes there is no next time...

Sep 22, 2016 11:29 PM
Jack Mossman - The Nines Team at Keller Williams in Lodi
The Nines Team at Keller Williams in Lodi - Lodi, CA
The Nines Team in Lodi

Jon - I am frequently frustrated with folks with real property issues that can be salvaged ... if you act now.  BUT too often they wait until the options are more limited than then we hear "but you said ..." Yup, we aid it then, this is now ... the story is not the same ... I know for most of them it is fear that prevent them from moving forward, but then there are those like your former client ... noting that today is not the rest of their life ... but it may very well impact it!

Sep 23, 2016 02:42 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Jon - That's probably my least favorite type of client - our expertise goes unused and unappreciated, and there's really not a lot of pleasure in "I told you so!".

Sep 23, 2016 03:55 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Dick Greenberg - absolutely not. What is do not like in people is when they do not value professionals (and I do not imply some unreachable heights, but simply mean people, who do it for living). Can't stand when people bought one house and now they know everything in real estate.

In Florida they joke that you may not have a driver's license, but everyone sure has RE license. Those, who have, but never practiced, are those that know everything about real estate... at least this is what they think.

Sep 23, 2016 10:22 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Jack Mossman - The Nines Team at Keller Williams in Lodi - I do not get people who say that this is their doctor's problem, or that this is their lawyer's problem.

It is our life and death, and not the doctor's, and it is us who may have trouble with the law, and not our lawyer.

I think this is how my client thinks.

He is not really a former client, he is a son of a friend, so I am somehow attached to all crazy things he does. After each of the crazy bouts we talk, and every time he says that now he understands, but is somehow does not register too well.

Sep 23, 2016 10:26 AM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

Jon, it is frustrating when someone ignores your advice, then calls back surprised that things didn't work out as they planned. 

Foolish, but understandable because I think that some people prefer to stick their heads in the sand and hope it all goes away. Some do it because they are overwhelmed, and some because they truly don't care. 

It really is no fun telling someone "I told you so". It would be great if we never had the opportunity. 

Sep 26, 2016 11:00 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Andrea Swiedler - Of course. When the guy calls and starts venting about how everything went wrong with his real estate deal, and I ask him, why didn't he call me BEFORE jumping in, he is surprised. He is asking me ehat difference could it make.

Oh, it would make a heck of the difference. No, I am not that stupid to represent him in New York, I would refer, but I would stay in the picture, see the documents, have the right to ask question. Both the agent, and their mortgage broker...

Sep 27, 2016 10:31 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

The same kind of thing also happens to copywriters.

I've just been reading a manuscript about nightmare clients from Bob Bly and a couple of other top marketers, and one of the topics is people who don't listen to your advice. 

All writers with more than a few months' experience have had it happen where a client hires them to write something, then re-writes and destroys it before they use it, and blames the writer because it didn't work. 

Oct 28, 2016 02:14 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Marte Cliff - I believe it happens to everybody, even to the attorneys. Why people can't follow the advice to which they agree, but then change it anyway? I do not know.

Oct 30, 2016 01:40 PM
Marte Cliff

That's one of life's mysteries, Jon. 

Oct 31, 2016 03:20 AM