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Zillow - You Are Driving Me Nuts

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Real Estate Agent with eXp Realty of California, Inc. CA DRE #01490977

This is a follow-up post to an excellent article by Lola Audu about agents’ listing data. I would strongly encourage you to read it and comment. She raises some excellent issues that all should keep in mind regarding where your listing data are sitting.

Lola’s post got me thinking more about my own listing data, and in particular my listings on Zillow.

Zillow gets tons of traffic, as we all know, and having a presence there makes sense, at some level, for being in front of consumers. Like other folks here, I have used their EZ Adz to gain exposure for listings as well as my services. At $.01 per impression you can’t beat the cost.

Searching for a home - You may not get what you thinkMy real beef with Zillow has to do with the listings they are displaying under my profile. It seems that, like their Zestimates, accuracy is not necessarily something they are striving for. If they are, well, they are missing the boat.

Case in point:

  • Zillow shows me as having 7 listings – I HAVE 4
  • My multifamily listing is now listed 3 times, with different DOMs (a couple of days ago it was just listed twice)
  • My newest listing on 6324 Greenhaven in Carlsbad has been on the MLS for 5 daysZillow proudly displays a DOM of 55 days. Guess I got the listing earlier than I thought I did.
  • A listing of mine at 1262 Farmington Place in San Marcos THAT SOLD back in March miraculously appears as an active listing with a DOM of 24 days.

So you tell me. How is this providing accurate information to consumers, and helping me and my sellers?

Searching on-lineMy other gripe? Well, try doing a search in one of the zip codes where these listings are located. DO THEY SHOW UP? Well, some do and some don’t. Good thing is the one listed 3 times only shows once. And the one THEY say is active but which sold 2 months ago shows up. Hmmm. Guess Zillow decides what to show, where and how, not me, the Listing agent.

Now many sites where we can advertise allow you to edit some of these things. Can’t seem to make that happen at Zillow, at least not for all the information that counts. I can change the number of bedrooms, and price (thank goodness), and that sort of thing but other data? Nope. I tried using the EDIT STATUS button to, again, change the status of my previously sold listing; but since the true sold date of 3/18/08 is before the Zillow “list date” of 5/2/08, well you can guess they won’t accept the change. And of course there doesn’t seem to be a way to get in touch with anyone to try to get these issues corrected. I must be doing something wrong.

I rather liked the possibility of having my listings in front of a whole bunch of on-line folks.

And I tried to set them up accurately for my clients. And took care with my profile so when folks viewed it they got to know me a bit. Seems Zillow has other ideas. Now viewers see inaccurate listing information. But maybe they can tell the 3 listings ARE all the same. But what if they fall in love with the listing that has already sold?!

So you have to wonder where else are there these inaccuracies where we assume what we input is accurate. And that other inaccurate information has made an appearance without our knowledge.

Has anyone else had such issues? Any success I getting them corrected?

UPDATE:

The former listing that previously sold has now been removed - note Drew's comments below.

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Debbie Summers
Charles Rutenberg Realty - New Smyrna Beach, FL

Jeff, I can't keep track of all the listings I have syndicated.  Zillow for the most part has worked well for me...  I feel your pain.

May 12, 2008 09:25 AM
June Watson
Weichert Realtors, ProSouth - Florence, AL
Realtor , NW Alabama

I was also having issues with some postings on Zillow in the past. Totally agree with everyone's assesment of Zestimate. They should totally just get rid of it.

DREW! Thanks for jumping into the fire! Kudos to you!!!!

May 12, 2008 10:06 AM
Rick Belben
Belben Realty Group - Orlando, FL
Orlando Real Estate - Belben Realty Group

Jeff,  Yes I have had the same problems with my zillow account.  Don't like it.

May 12, 2008 12:34 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

As Zillow and others and the others that feed Zillow continue to pass the inaccuracies on to each other, the information on line will be more and more corrupted. 

We agents that deal with the public who get information from the Internet will have to continue to verify the accuracy or lack thereof of listing information.  It's already started.  Wait, it started with Realtor.com when they continued to post and continue to post sold or expired listings. 

Complaining about the numerous innacuracies on Zillow is like complaining that the information you get from a gossip who heard it from the 5th source is not true. 

Zillow's mission is not delivering accurate information.  Zillow's job is using the content on it's web site to generate traffic to sell advertising.  Accuracy is not their forte.  Accuracy is not even critical to their mission. 

In the grand scheme of things, the problem revealed by Lola is far more harmful to real estate practitioners who advertise on the Internet.  We feed content to Zillow which Zillow uses to generate advertising revenue.  Zillow then fails to reciprocate by blocking the back links.  The policy Zillow follows with respect to back links is good SEO for Zillow.  However, it clearly thumbs it's nose at the very population that feeds it. 

 

May 12, 2008 12:48 PM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

Looks like there is some tweeking to be done by Zillow -- and by agents to make the information as accurate as possible.  I am afraid to trust what I see on Zillow at this juncture. 

May 12, 2008 12:48 PM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Jeff sounds like they got a lot of work to do if they want to trust the info that is on their site.  If they do not correct the problems soon it will lose credibility and people will most likely stop using it.

May 12, 2008 01:53 PM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

We have had problems with inaccuracies in Zillow listings as well. Duplicate listings and also having listings we had set up with photos and info, only to have the info we had vanish or be added to when Zillow picked up some other feed about the property. We tried to manually change things to get them back current and accurate, but it was never really possible to correct. Someone at zillow did send me an e-mail that talked about they would try and fix things, but then time passed and not much actually happened.  Frustrating.

May 12, 2008 06:15 PM
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer

There is a listing on Zillow that I cannot take down to save my life!  I have the same issues (obviously) and we need to be able to edit for accuracy!

May 13, 2008 12:53 AM
Drew Meyers
Geek Estate - Seattle, WA
Drew Meyers

@Lenn-

I wanted to address a couple things from your response. First, Zillow does not block back-links to your site (you can read through the comments on this post for background). Secondly, on the subject of accuracy -- you're incorrect to say that accuracy is not critical to Zillow's mission. Quite the opposite of that is true -- if we do not have accurate information, particularly listings, we lose credibility with out users.

Bob & Carolin-

What is the address of the listing you've had trouble with?

Renee-

While logged into your zillow account, navigate to the home details page of your listing, then click the "edit status" link right next to the for sale price. Select the option "no longer for sale" and then click submit at the bottom of the page. If you'd rather post the address, I can help you remove it from zillow.

May 13, 2008 03:31 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Becky - good point. The Internet has changed the face of searching for homes in so many ways. As listing agents we need to understand where our listings are and what information is being shared. We should also understand how the websites consumers are using work.

Jeff

May 13, 2008 04:00 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Geordie - sounds like you are having some other issues!

Jwff

May 13, 2008 04:02 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Stewart - well this has been a complaitn from day 1. Some are very high, some seem on target, and others are very low. Clearly one should only use this data as PART of the overall picture and not rely on it as the gospel.

Jeff

May 13, 2008 04:05 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

PMZ Real Estate - well I would be cautious no matter where you post to make sure what you post is what shows up on the site and what consumers will see. Understanding how these sites operate helps us to be better prepared. But obviously some things are out of our control.

Jeff

May 13, 2008 04:07 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Cindy - well that was part of my discussion with Drew...taht errors that WE cannot fix make US look bad in front of our clients, but it also impacts the credibility of the site itself.

Jeff

May 13, 2008 04:08 AM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Jeff- I have not seen the incorrect information like you have but do realize that all the syndication that has been going on does create a problem with the days on the market. It is frustrating too that when a listing is syndicated in multiple sources the last place it was syndicated to wipes out everything else. I am constantly going to Zillow to add my own website back in as the main link instead of the syndication site.

May 13, 2008 04:21 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Jessica - couldn't agree with you more.The dilemma is keeping up with all the sites that do syndicate listings. I find it impossible to know everywhere a listing might show up nor where they are syndicating from and,hence, one cannot ensure their accuracy. It does continue to make us look bad. Now that I know Zillow pulls a feed from Z57 I just have to be sure my listings on my website are accurate and up to date.

Jeff

May 13, 2008 05:23 AM
Drew Meyers
Geek Estate - Seattle, WA
Drew Meyers

Jeff-

I agree it is sometimes hard for agents to know where all their listings are being syndicated to. Are real estate technology providers such as z57 not notifying agents when they add new distribution partners?

May 13, 2008 05:27 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Drew - good queston on Z57. That info may be buried somewhere on their site but I don't recall seeing anything (they talk about Oodle and Trulia but not Zillow). The problem is that you have to review all the marekting information in order to find out what they offer, where they syndicate, etc.. If one has time to do that, great, but so often I don't. They may have sent an email but I don't recall seeing one. Clearly I need to pay more attention when I have the time.

Jeff

May 13, 2008 05:50 AM
Kristen Blanchet
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
CDPE, SRES, Broker Associate, MA & NH

I've had the same problem with Zillow....very frustrating! I haven't had luck fixing the issues on the site. What really drives me nuts are the values they come up with for my area. I've had a few listing appointments this month where the owners truly believe their home is worth $40,000 more than  the actual value because Zillow told them!

May 15, 2008 06:09 AM
Jennifer Butz
Not yet determined - Lilburn, GA

I am so glad to see someone from Zillow on here commenting and helping fix problems. I have an issue with Zillow and that's the values really don't reflect the greatest. I guess it depends on the neighborhood you are in.

May 22, 2008 01:43 AM