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Right wing conservative evangelicals like me pick Huckabee for VP!

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Carousel Realty of Dyer County Tn 248435000

My trainer, Jackie Keeling gave me the results of a poll taken on the American Family Association website for your choice for VP running mate for McCain.

This is not a scientific poll but a poll done among the Christian voters who frequent this website.

I am pretty surprised at the number of people who picked Huckabee, 13,693 at the time of Jackie's vote. Jackie told me he voted for him and I mentioned that I voted in Tennessee primary for Huckabee.

Second on the list is Mitt Romney at 6,113. Third is Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska. Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana is next.

McCain is expected to make an announcement sometime in the next week of who he is picking for his running mate. I sure hope it is a conservative!

Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Jeffrey ~ Good for you, dear one. For your information Bush is not the leader of the religious right. There is a group of individuals in this country who are spiritual, who love theor country and want this country to be a shining light once again. Liberals promise freedom, but in the end we as a country will be in the same bondage communism has on a society.

Isreal ~ You have been bashing Christians long enough here in the Rain, and its time you stop.

Aug 25, 2008 12:48 PM
Anonymous
Jeffrey Tucker

I never meant to imply that Bush was a leader of any religious group.  But he has used religion for his benefit.  I remember before his first term in office there was an evangelical preacher who stood in the pulpit and said something to the effect of: "I can't tell you who to vote for but I can tell you this.  The choices are Mr. Gore and Brother Bush."  It is the religious right that got him elected and after eight years they are still in love with the guy.  It's insane - just because he has the reputation of being a Christian, a fact which I believe to be untrue, many religious people love the guy.  Just because he supposedly is a Christian!  I don't think God looks too kindly on those who use election to get rich or get elected.

I'm one of the group you just mentioned.  I'm spiritual and I love America.  That being said I disagree with Bush on about 99% of everything he does and says.  Bush has made this country less free, not more free.  He promised less government and delivered the opposite.  He said we shouldn't be policing the world, an issue that I like many conservatives, didn't like about the Clinton administration.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm no Democrat.  I do agree with Bush on a few issues.  I'm against affirmative action and I think his plan for social security didn't go anywhere near far enough.

Aug 25, 2008 04:10 PM
#27
Trey Thurmond
BCR Realtors - College Station, TX
College Station , Texas Homes

Me too. It will be interesting to see who it is!

Aug 25, 2008 04:15 PM
Israel Barden
RE/MAX Big Bear Village - Big Bear Lake, CA

Nicholas- You aren't making sense. There  was no bashing of any kind in this thread. You calling me names was the only blemish on an otherwise stimulating conversation.

Back to the topic at hand. I don't see how you can dispute the fact that most Americans are middle of the road in their political beliefs. They already had eight years of the far right and all the polls say that we are unhappy about it. So the question is, does the Republican party stay the course with a far right, evangelical ticket or do they take a more moderate course. Conventional wisdom suggests a more middle of the road approach has a greater chance of success.

I am a perfect example of this. I don't really like Obama very much. I think he is too far left and I am sure my taxes will go up considerably under an Obama Presidency. At this point McCain seems like a better option. However, if McCain was to pick an evangelical running mate and swerve towards the far right, I will vote for Obama. I think the last eight years have been a disaster for our country and more of the same is even worse.

Aug 26, 2008 05:21 AM
Anonymous
Jeffrey Tucker

Israel, I agree with you on some things, so I don't want you to take this as an attack, but your last paragraph left me a little confused.  Why would you vote for Obama if you think he would be bad for this country?

Aug 26, 2008 06:17 AM
#30
Israel Barden
RE/MAX Big Bear Village - Big Bear Lake, CA

If I think McCain is going to be the same as Bush, than that is worse to me than anything Obama will do. If McCain takes a moderate approach and doesn't go way right, than he gets my vote. I don't want a continuation of the policies of the last administration.

Aug 26, 2008 08:31 AM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Jeffrey ~ Israel is a closet liberal...lol

Israel ~ You have been attacking the Christian right as long as I have known you. Don't suddenly now take the offensive and say I put a blemish on this thread.

Aug 26, 2008 08:41 AM
Simon Conway
Orlando Area Real Estate Services - Orlando, FL

I thought you were voting for Bob Barr Israel? As for me, I really don't see how anything could be worse than a far left socialist (most liberal member of Congress) teamed up with the third most liberal member of Congress who doesn't think the guy at the head of the ticket has the experience to do the job!

Aug 26, 2008 08:45 AM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Simon ~ Well said, and thank you. You are truly a man of principle whereas some members here in the Rain say they are Conservatives and say they will vote for Obama. Nothing further from the truth.

Aug 26, 2008 09:06 AM
Israel Barden
RE/MAX Big Bear Village - Big Bear Lake, CA

Nope. A continuation of Bushs policies is not only the worst thing that could happen to this country,it is the worst thing that could happen to the world. If McCain picks a moderate v.p. and tones down his pro-war rhetoric, I will vote for him. A vote for Bob Barr is a waste of a vote. I would pencil in Ron Paul if I wanted to go that route. If McCain panders to the religious right and picks Huckabeeor some other evangelical type, I will see the writing on the wall.

Aug 26, 2008 10:04 AM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Spoken like a true Christian bigot.

Aug 26, 2008 12:35 PM
Mike Frazier
Carousel Realty of Dyer County - Dyersburg, TN
Northwest Tennessee Realtor

Israel,

I kept looking for you at the democratic convention on tv. Lots of Bush bashing going on! I believe you would fit right in with that bunch!

Aug 26, 2008 01:35 PM
Anonymous
Jeffrey Tucker

I don’t like Bob Barr that much. I agree with him on a few issues, but for a libertarian he sure is philosophically inconsistent. Ron Paul was a much better choice in my opinion. Really he was the only true conservative in the Republican party that wanted the nomination. I don’t plan on voting for Barr, but right now I’m not sure who I’m voting for. I do know that I won’t be voting for McCain or Obama.

“If McCain picks a moderate v.p. and tones down his pro-war rhetoric, I will vote for him.”

Before the first election Bush was talking a lot about how we shouldn’t try to police the world like Clinton was trying to do. If McCain tones down his pro war rhetoric, what makes you think he will keep his word once he gets into office? He has already said he is ready to stay in Iraq for the next 100 years.

I guess my point is that I don’t see any substantive difference between McCain or Obama. Both will be bad leaders, just in different ways. I don’t understand why people continue to vote for the lesser of two evils. If you don’t think someone will do a good job, don’t vote for them just because you’ve always liked the party they belong to. Don’t vote for someone because the other guy is really bad.

I think Israel has brought up a good point. If McCain decides to play the religion card and go with Huckabee, he will get the “religious right” vote. I don’t see how saying that makes anyone a bigot. Like the original post said, Huckabee has a lot of evangelical support, that’s just a fact. Will it be enough to win an election? I don’t know and won’t speculate.

Aug 26, 2008 03:05 PM
#38
Cheri Smith
Prudential Gary Greene, Cypress TX - Cypress, TX
Realtor Prudential Gary Greene

Israel, perhaps you would prefer we had three parties, the Republicans, Evangelicals and the Democrats. Would you be seeing RED then because no one would get anything accomplished? . We are being taken for a RIDE right now with the Republicans, Independents, Dems and Evangelicals. They are all promises and no results. What I would like to see is NO parties. Yep, I said it again.

I want to see a complete restructuring of our govmt that includes no congress, no senate. One where each person votes on issues, laws, budgets, etc individually. If you stop paying senators and congressmen then you can come up with an affordable way for us to speak our own minds be it via the internet, at polling locations, over the phone, wherever.

We are still running this country like it's 1908 and it's 2008!

I want change, only REAL change not Obama change.

The American people are intelligent enough to run their own country, to vote on their own issues, to decide for themselves how they want the country ran down to how much the first lady spends on Christmas trees. We no longer need a senate and congress. The sooner people realize that and we do something about it the sooner we can turn this country around.

Aug 27, 2008 03:01 AM
Anonymous
Jeffrey Tucker

Cheri - you have some good ideas.

Aug 27, 2008 03:09 AM
#40
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Cheri ~ This is a representaive form of government otherwise we would have anarchy. Problem is that the people who we elect to represent us forget who voted for them and what were the issues that got them elected in the first place.

Aug 27, 2008 06:01 AM
Anonymous
Jeffrey Tucker

Nicholas - Anarchy doesn't mean chaous. It just means "no government" that's all. There are more than two choices - not just anarchy and representative government. It seems like Cheri is advocating a form of direct democracy, and I would have to agree that such a system would be better than what we have now. Not the best type of system but better.

Aug 27, 2008 04:00 PM
#42
Israel Barden
RE/MAX Big Bear Village - Big Bear Lake, CA

Mike- Bush deserves to be bashed. The worst President of all time.

Nick- You aren't getting it. You don't even realize that just because you think something is right, doesn't mean somebody else doesn't. You are willing to go along with whatever the Bush administration tells you too because they purport to be Christians. If you are truly a Christian Conservative, you should be madder than anybody else over the way your party has been hijacked.

Cheri- I like the fact that you are thinking outside the box. Your ideas might be nearly impossible to implement, but I agree things have to change. All the parties are feeding us the same kool aid, it just comes in different looking packages.

Jeffery- You make some good points. You will quickly realize that it is easier for some people to make accusations than to have to think things through. Sean Hannity would be so proud.........

Aug 28, 2008 08:07 AM
Anonymous
Jeffrey Tucker

Well, I don't know if I would call Bush the worst President ever.  Lincoln, FDR and Alexander Hamilton were worse.

Aug 29, 2008 03:46 PM
#44
Mike Frazier
Carousel Realty of Dyer County - Dyersburg, TN
Northwest Tennessee Realtor

Israel,

History will record Bush as being a great president!

Sep 02, 2008 02:18 AM