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Death by Natural Causes

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with KD Realty - 408.972.1822 CA DRE#01366594

Does it really make a difference if someone dies in a home by natural causes or by illness?

A person died in one of my listed Silicon Valley homes. The woman lived there for 31 years. She died 2 weeks before her 99th Birthday.  Of course the seller disclosed the fact that there was a death in the home within the past three years. That is all a seller is required to do.  I get asked questions like:

  • Did the person die of natural causes or an illness? 
  • How old was the person? 
  • Who was the person?

Seriously, does it matter?  Last time I checked death is death? I'm sensing there may be some exceptions for people who have an issue buying a home when they know someone died there. I emphasize "know" because the disclosure requirement in California for a death in the property is within the past three years.

Is solving a buyer's curiosity by answering these questions really going to make a difference in a buyer's decision to buy the home - or are they just curious?   

I happen to be a person who completely embraces death. We are all going to die - no one gets out of life alive!  I understand that some people have a real issue with death and some people have a real issue buying a home when they know someone died in it. I honor that and would not attempt to sell anyone on the idea that "it's OK." I get that it is only OK if someone already believes it is OK. If they know someone died in the home - is that not enough? 

What are your thoughts?  What difference does it make if it was an old person, a young person, a male, a female, a baby, or a child?  Is the issue really with death or who and how they died?

Kathleen Daniels is a San Jose ~ Silicon Valley Real Estate Broker Agent serving the needs of home buyers and home sellers in San Jose and Silicon Valley ~ Santa Clara County.

 

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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Trunda - I agree - to each his own!!!  Thank you for your comment. It does boggle my mind a bit though - all the questions regarding the death. If one knows they won't buy a home that someone died in ... what difference does it make who it was or how they died. 

 Lynda - a murder or death caused by some type of crime - that makes sense. Thank you for your comment. I believe that would involve a disclosure regarding the crime as well.  No, I cannot imagine that the carpet was not removed!  My mind tends to spin a little on these issues. How many people bought homes that people did die in and they did not know about it. We don't know what we don't know - right?

Jerri - Thanks for your comment. Ghosts - spirits - it's all good. I like your point about being sensitive. I believe I am. I am simply curious why people want more information about a death if they already know they won't buy the house. I guess it's the part of human nature that causes us to "rubber-neck" at accidents.

Linsey - If I had a choice - die in my own home or the home of a loved one versus dying someone else - I would definitely choose dying in my own home. I have represented buyers who had no issues knowing someone died in the home - they did not care how - and never asked how they died. We are all different that way. I did not feel the same way about death 20 years ago. My understanding of life is greater now ... it helps with the entire death issue. Thanks for your comment.

Lucille - Thanks for your comment. As a Realtor I may want to know too however I do not believe I would ask personal questions. If the seller wanted to tell me - I would listen. My sense is that if a seller wanted to disclose the details - they would opt to cover that on the disclosure.  I know people who have experienced "spirits" in their homes as well. I do not believe it was ever a disclosure issue. The people I know talk to the spirits - clearly they don't have an issue with them. If I had a spirit I would talk to it too!

Larry - Good Point - and you are right - in California AIDS is a separate issue. I am not sure a buyer has a right to know the "details" of the death. They absolutely have a right to know if someone died in the home within three years. It is a matter of public record. People can look up the cause of death if it is really that important to them. Thanks for your comment.

Justin - Thank You. Imagine how many homes would be "thrown away" if we did that.  I just had another thought - how many people have been in a hospital bed that someone died in? Would it ever even occur to someone going into the hospital to say - I don't want to stay here if someone died here. I know its' not the same as living in a home... but the thought just did come to me so I put it out there!

LaNita - Thank you for your comment. Clearly for some it does make a difference - meaning death of an elderly woman would not be an issue but a murdered child would be out of the question.  As difficult as it may be to imagine anyone not wanting to know - I personally have represented two buyers who could not care less. It simply did not matter to them.

Robert - Thank you Robert.  I recently read a book that discussed how we see (judge) something as bad, good, right, wrong, etc. based upon our beliefs about it ... and that most of our beliefs originate from our parents. I have not always felt about death the way I do now. I do understand people have issues. Reading some of the comments has helped me to understand that some people have a place where they will draw the line and others simply will not make a decision to buy a home that they know someone died in ... no matter what. It appears the answer is it does make a difference for some people.   

 

Sep 08, 2008 03:26 PM
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz
Las Vegas, NV

Kathleen - You are so right and thank you for the reply back.

Sep 08, 2008 04:32 PM
Thesa Chambers
West + Main - Bend, OR
Principal Broker - Licensed in Oregon

we do not have to disclose this issue - but my guess is they want to know if it was a peaceful death and just do not ask the question correctly

Sep 09, 2008 11:47 AM
Chad Baird
Re/Max Spirit - Dayton, OH

I had a client break the escrow because they found out somebody had died in the house.  It was undisclosed.  We found out from a neighbor who came over during the inspection.  The neighbors tell EVERYTHING.  It was from natural causes, but still. 

Im not sure how comfortable I would be about buying a house that had a recent death in it, even natural causes. 

Sep 09, 2008 12:21 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Thesa - You bring up a good point - if the issue of death is already uncomfortable for a person - then the questions an individual asks a death may simply reflect their uneasiness about asking and yet still wanting to know.  Thank you for your comment.

Chad - I guess it is better the person found out before escrow closed - discovering a failure to disclose after the close of escrow - especially regarding a death in the home - could lead to some serious issues. You are right - neighbors will tell everything. I can appreciate anyone not being comfortable buying a home in which they knew someone died. It simply would not be an issue for me - especially knowing it was an elderly woman nearly 99 years young.  Thanks Chad for your comment.

Sep 09, 2008 12:53 PM
Elizabeth Nieves
The Elizabeth Nieves Realty Group - Durham, NC
Bilingual Raleigh - Durham North Carolina Real Estate Team

I don't understand why it would matter. IF you have a problem...okay...move on to the next house on the list. I CAN understand someone having a problem if the previous owner was murdered in the home. But...I don't know...like you, I'm just not sure why it matters if it is a death by natural causes.

GBU, Kathleen!

Sep 10, 2008 01:42 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Elizabeth - there is clearly and understandably something different about the taking of a life in a home versus one simply dying in their home. I'm sensing the issue is mostly around death itself. I have so appreciated hearing the perspective of others. It helps broaden my understanding.  Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.

Sep 11, 2008 09:52 AM
Debbie Summers
Charles Rutenberg Realty - New Smyrna Beach, FL

In Florida a seller is not required to disclose a death on the property...  It really does open up a can of worms.

Sep 13, 2008 10:12 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Hi Debbie - thank you for your comment.  I held the home open this weekend at 80% or better of the people who came through had an issue with the fact that an elderly woman - nearly 99 years young - died a peacefully of natural causes in the home. I tell people - it is what it is - and then ask them - where would you go to die or where are we supposed to die?  Hopefully these discussions with others will stimulate their thinking and come to realize that death is a natural thing - we are all going to die. Thanks again for your comment.

Sep 15, 2008 03:11 AM
Brian Foxworth SC, GA, FL, & TN Mortgage Loans
Palmetto South Mortgage - Columbia, SC

wow - i don't think I've ever seen that disclosed on a property in South Carolina

Sep 18, 2008 09:05 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Hi Brian - thanks for your comment. In California - the seller is required to disclose a death in the property within the past three years. We are not however required to disclose the cause of death. 

Sep 18, 2008 12:55 PM
The Villages Realty
The Villages Realty - San Jose, CA
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Kathleen, just going through some of your older posts.  They are quite good and very informative.   

Oct 25, 2016 01:04 AM
Eagle Ridge Realty
Eagle Ridge Realty - Gilroy, CA
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Hi Kathleen Daniels.  I was going through some of your older posts, and you truly are the "Go-To" real estate agent for San Jose, California, as well as Cambrian Park, Willow Glen, Los Gatos, Saratoga, Monte Sereno, Cupertino, and Campbell.    

Oct 25, 2016 01:46 AM
Signature Homes & Estates
Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
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Great Content.  Always great to read what you post.  It is appreciated by us.   

Dec 17, 2016 09:07 PM
Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

Hi Kathleen, just checking out some of your older posts.  We especially like the market reports.  Fun to go back in time.  The market sure has recovered.

Feb 26, 2017 09:40 AM
Eagle Ridge Real Estate Agents
Eagle Ridge Realty - Gilroy, CA
Representing Buyers and Sellers in Eagle Ridge

Nice post.  Great localized information.  Keep it up.  Good luck this selling season.

Apr 26, 2017 05:35 AM
Eagle Ridge Realty
Eagle Ridge Realty - Gilroy, CA
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Nice localized post.  This should generate some business.

May 27, 2017 06:48 AM
Signature Homes & Estates
Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
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Checking out some of your past postings.  There is plenty of good, local information on them.

Sep 05, 2017 08:22 AM
Eagle Ridge Realty
Eagle Ridge Realty - Gilroy, CA
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Hi, just taking some time to look at your past posts.  Good stuff.  

Sep 13, 2017 07:22 AM
Nancy Frimann
Eagle Ridge Realty/Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA

I love looking at your past posts.  You always have good information on them.

Aug 07, 2018 08:03 AM