What is it and how can it work for you?
In a Short Sale, you have to negotiate with the bank holding the mortgage, and get them to accept less than what the seller owes.  We are seeing a lot of transactions like this in the current market.  Your buyers and sellers may have questions regarding the advantages and dis-advantages of the Short Sale.  One thing for sure, you might have to be in it for the long sail.

In my humble opinion, I think it's better to do a Short Sale, than a foreclosure or bankruptcy.  I feel that the advantages of the Short Sale far out-weigh the advantages of a foreclosure or bankruptcy on your record.  A foreclosure does affect your credit and the ability to purchase another home anytime in the near future.  I'd like to share some notes I took from last weeks seminar regarding these transaction types.  You can also go see the short sales expert.

Why do banks negotiate and accept  Short Sales?
There are many reasons banks that will agree to a Short Sale but the most common include:

  • The mortgage is past due or in a foreclosure
  • The property is in poor condition
  • The owner has suffered a hardship and can't make the payments
  • The area or neighborhood has depreciated in valueSan Francisco Bay Sailing
  • New homes built are being chosen over the resale properties
  • The banks shareholders are concerned when there are too many
    defaulting loans on the books
  • Some banks are required to prove a loss each month
  • An REO is a liability, not an asset.  Too many liabilities will cause
    any business to go under if not dealt with properly and quickly

What are the steps to a successful Short Sale?
Each bank may have different requirements and regulations, this is just a sample scenario

  1. Find a distressed property
  2. Meet with the homeowner to put something together
  3. Get a signed "Authorization to Release Form"
  4. Create a contract to reflect your offer to the bank
  5. Call the loss mitigation dept. at the bank
  6. Fax them your offer along with the following:
    a. Cover Letter explanation of why you can't offer full price
    b. The owners signed sales contract
    c. Justified Sales Comps of the area
    d. Pictures of the property condition
    e. An estimated net sheet or closing statement
    f. A hardship letter from the homeowner concerned of bankruptcy
    g. Detailed list of estimated costs for needed repairs

What happens to the homeowners credit?
When you negotiate a successful Short Sale, remember that the agreed upon price is payment in full.  However, the homeowners may still owe the difference between the mortgage balance and the discounted amount if the bank pursues the owners via a "deficiency judgement".  If granted, this judgement will affect the homeowners and their credit report just as any judgment would.  You must get the bank to agree to accept "payment in full without pursuit of any deficiency judgment." 

In addition, you need to explain to the homeowner that the discounted amount (the difference between the mortgage balance and the Short Sale) may be declared as income on their tax return by means of a "1099".  The homeowners should always consult with their accountant or a legal professional for advice.

This information is being provided to you based on a recent "Short Sale / Foreclosure" seminar, in which agents were informed of different marketing ideas regarding distressed and Bank owned properties (REO's).  This post was created to share those ideas and concepts, and hopefully provide a better understanding of the Short Sale for you and your clients.  Here is what other members have posted regarding Short Sales on Active Rain.


  

 
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44 Comments on The Short Sale - Can be a Long Sail...

APR
15
2007
257,860 Points 18 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Brad,

We're getting more and more requests to sell homes that owe more than they'll sell for so this is all timely info. I always enjpy your articles - thanks for the info (have 2 potential short sales right now...)

1:47am • #1

Hi Cyndee, we had 3 opened by one agent last week. That was just in my branch.  We are starting to do classes now in the RE offices.  Our Escrow staff are having to run updates weekly to check for defaults etc.  These usually take a little longer to close, but sure helps consumers that need the help. 

I always enjoy your comments, thanks for leaving me one  :-)
PS.  Please tell Jack I said Hi!  Thanks!

1:50am • #2
223,869 Points 2 Featured Posts Outside Blog
I just represented the seller in my first short sale closing. It is quite the challenge! But, in the end it beats foreclosure. I learned this one on my own as there was not a lot of experience around.... I wish I had attended a seminar earlier!
8:29am • #3
390,779 Points 74 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Brad,

Great post, you are always helping people understand the difficult things in Real estate...I have onlt had the pleasure of doing one short sale and although it was a lot of waiting and negotiating..I was able to get the bank to reduce the sellers balance of what they needed to bring to closing, it was originally $10,000,we got it down to $450.00

I had it under contract at the time I found out that they were 1 week from losing the house, I was able to quickly get the bank to pay us and get the sellers out of a bad situation.

I have had alot of calls regarding these types of problems which seem to be more frequent.

I am going to include this in my week in review top 25 posts today.

8:43am • #4

Thanks Neal,  I think we are going to see more of this kinda market for a while.  I think May will pick-up once tax time has past.  Anytime you can help out a seller in this situation, it comes back 10 fold.  They will always tells others what you did to help them out, and that can really help your referral business.  

Thanks for including me in your week in review top 25 posts.  I think that's awesome that you do a post like that.  The more members that join activerain, the harder it gets to come up with creative and unique posts.  Too many great minds out there and alot of us do think alike.  Make it a great day friend!

10:26am • #5

Gary, short sales are a bit of a challenge.  I would always recommend taking advantage of any classes or seminars that are going on in your area.  The best class is the one you took with your seller.  First hand experience and on the job training.  Experience it seems will be what sets you apart from others when it comes time to represent more sellers on this type of transaction. (Believe me, there are more coming).

I also have to agree with you (as I said in my post), I would much rather see a seller go through a short sale than to go through a foreclosure.  Congrats on your first SS closing.  I wish you continued success!  :-)

10:34am • #6
288,240 Points 40 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Thanks for the information Brad. It is going to be more and more important to understand how to work with REO properties as more foreclosures hit the market.
11:22am • #7

Hey Teri - it does seem to be a National Epidemic right now.  You're welcome for the info.  Glad to share!

12:47pm • #8
390,779 Points 74 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Cool ,hopefully it will be pretty good, please check it out when I post it!
1:54pm • #9
MAY
14
2007
After short sell is completed and a year or 2 down the road you want to buy a home again, what will be the points \ interest rates assessed?
SS in SD
9:13am • #10
SS in SD, you'd need to talk with a lender on that one. I don't think anyone can predict points and interest rates 2 years down the road, but they might be able to share how credit or other terms may be affected.
5:54pm • #11
JUL
12
2007
I have taken a series of Short Slae course for the Austin, Tx areas and have found with a system a short sale can be smooth and clean. The banks are more willing to help when the agent is educated with short sales. I am willing to help if anyone needs it 512-923-5214
Sandy Pope
5:25pm • #12

Hi, Brad!

Thanks for sharing us your knowledge on short sale.  This is something I'd like to do in the very near future.  It is unfortunate that this topic affects so many homeowners.  I intend to attend a seminar on short sale soon.  This post is definitely going to be bookmarked and be given a "5"!

10:00pm • #13
241,727 Points 6 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router
I'm working a short sale through Countrywide right now and am shocked by how little they communicate with us.  Working a SS can be pretty frustrating, especially for those used to easy settlements. 
11:51pm • #14
JUL
13
2007
Sandy, that is very kind of you.  I have already received calls from this post via Localism.com and have been able to help an individual because of this. Thank You Active Rain, and the client thanks you too!!
5:03am • #15
Emilie - thanks for the High 5!!  There are some great classes available, and lot's of information online.  If you need more info, and don't want to take a class per se, let me know, I'll send you what I have either by mail, or electronically.  Thanks for your comment, and best of luck to you. :-)
5:05am • #16
Jeff - sorry to hear that things aren't going smoothly for you and your clients.  Short sales are not much fun when the lender doesn't step up to the plate.  Countrywide is typically a great firm to work with, I have some great friend there locally, wish I could help you more...you'd let me know if I could right?  Thanks!
5:08am • #17
241,727 Points 6 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router
Absolutely!  The office we're dealing with is in Plano, TX if you've got any pull there...supposedly the rep is working on 150 cases right now!
11:15pm • #18
JUL
14
2007
The only guy I know that would have any pull (if any at all) is local here in the Bay Area, I will forward this text to him in an email and see if he replies.  If he does, I'll contact you directly.  Thanks Jeff and again, I wish I could do more.  If it were First American you needed help with, that's different, it would be a done deal!!  :-)
1:26pm • #19
108,958 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hi Brad,

I see lots of posts on short sales on AR but too few that discuss the negatives of a short sale both for the buyer and seller. I have done several such posts. My last called short sale revisited discussed the problems faced by a seller who got a stated/stated or other low doc loan.

This is a situation that may also have consequences for the listing agent.

Please everybody beware. And only do a short sale as an absolute last alternative.

Bill Roberts

5:20pm • #20
241,727 Points 6 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router
I'll keep the First American tip in my pocket, we deal with them as well.
11:52pm • #21
JUL
15
2007
Bill - Excellent comment!! I agree that short sales, foreclosures and bankruptcies should all be avoided if possible dues to the consequences that can come from them, unfortunately, many are not in a position to be able to avoid it.  Helping them understand all the repercussions is very important!  Thanks for your comment, very much appreciated!  :-)
10:23am • #22
Jeff - Thanks for keeping the tip in your pocket, keep my number and email there too, and use it if you ever need to!!  :-)
10:25am • #23
JUL
17
2007

Brad,

This was a really good post that said a lot.  Well organized and well presented.

I wish I could be more concise in my writing - instead I just ramble to say what I have to say - but you know different people learn differently and I know I help many, so what the heck - it is what it is.

Hoping to make your California Real Estate Investment...
A Pleasant and Profitable Experience,

John Occhi, Hemet CA REALTOR 
Realtor Consultant to Foreclosure Investors
Mission Grove Realty

PS - this is my other blog

12:40am • #24
Thanks John - appreciate that compliment very much!
8:32am • #25
AUG
02
2007

Hi Brad,

This is an excellent post not only for Realtors but for Mtg brokers as well.  I have a client who bought a home in foreclosure and we were able to negotiate a short sale with the bank.  This worked out great for my buyer.

Thanks for your information. 

   

 

4:09pm • #26
206,695 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Brad,

Very thorough post on short sales. They can be profitable for a buyer, but there is a lot of work involved, as you outline. If you don't approach the bank in the right manner, they won't even look at your proposal. At times it appears the banks are not acting in their own best interest. And the possible tax consequence to the seller is often overlooked.

4:18pm • #27
AUG
03
2007
Lisette - glad that worked out for you and your client. This post is good for anyone in our industry who has the need to really understand the short sale. I appreciate your comment, and I am glad things worked out well for your buyer. Thanks!!
11:27am • #28
Esko - excellent comment and very true.  I have a connection here in the Bay Area that actually helps the Brokers and Agents with this whole process.  He has investors that get the ball rolling with the banks and he handles all the Loss Mitigation with the appropriate lenders. He does ask a fee, but what a load off the seller and the agent.  He is quite successful marketing his service to companies in my area, especially in this market.
11:30am • #29
AUG
04
2007
Brad, very informing.  There are many SS's going on here in SW Florida and I am trying to learn more. Question:  when the SS is finally closed and all parties go their own way, is the original mortgage replaced with a brand new mortgage from a lender of the buyer's choice?
4:47pm • #30

Steve, I know you asked Brad...  Brad, I hope you don't mind but the answer is yes. Occasionally the Bank will the original loan will try to sweeten the deal by offering an 8th less on the rate just to get the deal. client. 

The short answer is, yes, Buyers Choice.

Brad, the reason for my post was to inform your readers about a company located in Southern Calif. that actually processes short sale transactions for agents and assists in their marketing efforts to establish them as a short sale specialist.

We handle all the phone calls, paperwork, negotiations, etc... with the lenders, title, escrow, buyers and sellers. Deal with price reductions with the seller, include two BPO's from nationally recognised BPO companies, -1 at inception and an update if necessary, assigned a processor (paperwork) and a representative (consultations), just to mention a few things. Basically every step to take it from Listing to Close.

This will allow the agent to focus on what they do best, find homeowners and deligate the paperwork processing to a company who has the relationships and expertise in place to get the job done.

We are in many states already. Additionally we are not investors or real estate agents. We don't step on anyones toes, you keep your relationships with your vendors. We will use your title and escrow for example.

The owner/founder is Ron Garber, his name should be familiar to those who where in the last Foreclosure/REO market. He was an Asset Mngr. for a financial institutions entire West Coast REO portfolio and worked with 26 other lending institutions REO properties. The rest of his bio along with Vanessa Liddel bio -who brings over 25 years of escrow experience and is the company President can be seen at the company site.

www.shortsaleplan.com

Sorry if this sounded like a paid announcement, that would be because I am the Dir. of Business Development for ShortSalePlan.com. Sincerely though, short sales are everywhere, most Expired and FSBO's are short sales.  Agents need to either have the processing system and expertise in place or align with a company that does.  Brokerage firms will not survive this market shift unless they close a majority of their short sales. We are filling that niche on a national scale.

Feel free to call with any questions or visit the website. We are obviously constantly updating the site and building an FAQ area in an effort to assist the the call volume. Our site will become more VR regarding the  progress of the agents transaction.

Thank you Brad for maintaining a quality blog with current a relavent information on this shifting market.

Ron Petruccione

Dir. of Business Develpoment

ShortSalePlan.com

888-265-5652

customerservice@shortsaleplan.com

Ron Petruccione
8:21pm • #31
AUG
05
2007
Thanks, I heard of one realtor listing 17 SS's in one month because he approached a bank and offered to move their distressed properties.  This is going to be big for a while.
5:56pm • #32

Stephen - I think you are correct in saying that this is going to be big for a while.  In some cases, we have seen hundreds of these transactions opened in a branch in a single area.  I hope that this information is useful to those who need to understand the short sale and the process or options!

Ron - your comment might be considered by many here on AR to be spam, but under these conditions, and because of it's relevance, I am going to leave it here on my blog.  Also, for the record, Ron did call me on my cell this weekend to ask me permission to comment in this manner.  I approved and am grateful he added this valuable information.  I have a client that does the same thing here in Central California, and has been able to help many brokers and agents with the whole short sale process as broken down by Ron's comment.  Thanks Ron, you're a gentleman and a scholar.  I hope we can network and do some business together in the near and distant future! Thanks!!

9:57pm • #33
AUG
06
2007
178,839 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router
Out did yourself again! Great post.  I'll bookmark.
12:09am • #34

Thanks Rosemary - nice to hear from you again, I have been very busy, and not much time for blogging these days!  I hope all is well with you and your family...miss our little parties! LOL! :-)

12:37am • #35
AUG
09
2007
where home values are solid, we have been called in to negotiate with lenders on the short sales in Woodside, etc. 
12:15pm • #36
thanks for the information regarding the Peninsula and in Woodside. I think there are short sales everywhere.  some are past that and have gone into foreclosure.  :-(
7:12pm • #37
AUG
10
2007
18 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Brad, I have not had any experience with short sales yet and your post made it much clearer in my mind. I was wandering if and how in particular can a real estate agent  be helpful to clients contemplating short sale, since the way I understand it, the process is not to market the property but to negotiate with the bank.

I checked out your site and am very impressed that you are doing what 101 marketing says, but few of us do - your offer information useful to your clients. If it's useful, they will stay on the site (as I did); no hyper marketing required. Thanks.  

11:09am • #38

Faina - the more you know and understand the short sale process, the better you'll be able to help your clients. I will never claim to be the expert, but there are quite a few out there.  I just close the deals that are opened with us.  Hopefully this post gives you a bit more insight and information to work with.

Thanks you for your kind words in your comment and for the compliment!!  B-)

3:55pm • #39
JAN
02
2008

Thank you, corrections have been made to this posts thanks to Yvonne.  I had made some typos that she caught and informed me needed to be changed.  Only spelling typos, the data and information is still accurate!

7:53pm • #40
SEP
29

Sylvia McFadden - please do not add your comments and spam to members' posts on AR.  Feel free to join our Network and create Blog posts of your own.  Your comments are just getting deleted by members and reported as SPAM, and as a result, wasting all your time and efforts.  Respectfully, Thanks. :-)

12:27pm • #43
OCT
06

Most people don't believe me but I had a short sale take over a year.  The bank was going through a restructering and they kept changing their policies mid stream.  It was a nightmare but the discount was worth the trouble.

Jon Christopher
9:53pm • #47

Jon - I have seen them take even longer, that's why I have connected to some really great people on AR who know what they're doing and can handle these for my friends and clients.  They are truly anything BUT a short sale!  Thanks for the comment.  :-)

10:42pm • #48

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