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A Look Back to 1985...

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When I first got into real estate sales in 1985, things were similar to the way they are now in one important way: “Nothing was selling.” At least that’s how it was in our little town.

The big difference in the market was that interest rates were high (think 12- 14%) and banks demanded 20% down for all but FHA and VA loans. And in a town filled with old homes, getting one of those loans was a real challenge. Ever hear of the “earth to wood” issue?

The way we did business was also different – far different from today.

I’m sure practices were a bit more advanced in the cities and in large real estate firms. But here’s a little look back at small town real estate in the late 80’s…

To communicate with clients and prospects, we wrote letters – by hand, or with a typewriter. My broker really frowned on using the telephone, because someone might want to be calling in. So… we were instructed to “Stay off the phone unless it’s absolutely necessary to get information right now.”

We did have three telephones in the office – connected to two different lines that weren’t connected to each other. They were on LONG cords, so the person on floor duty could have a phone on his or her desk. Our broker rented desk space to the Chamber of Commerce and they had a phone too. Office with typewriter and phone

I’ll never forget my first day at work – I had just come in the door and was there all alone when the phone started ringing. I was running around the room hunting for phones and hollering “Hello” into them while the ringing continued. Looking back, it was funny. But at the time I was completely frazzled.

Contracts that had to be signed by out of town buyers or sellers went in the mail, too. No FAX, no computer files to send instantly. In fact, no computers at all!

We did have a copy machine, but the copies were pathetic. We also had an answering machine, for those times when everyone decided to leave at the same time. (No, no secretary.) But, answering machines weren’t very popular, so few people left messages. And there was no caller ID, so if we missed a call, we missed it.

Office listing flyers were typed by hand – a tedious job for the person who had to do it, so they weren’t updated often. There were no photos included. Even if we’d tried pasting photos on the pages before copying, our copier would have made them look like mud.

I forget what year it started, but after a while an office supply business in a town 20 miles to the East got a color copier. So if we really wanted to mail photos to a client, we could drive up there and make copies. I think it was $1.50 or $2 per page, so we didn’t do it often!

Our bulletin boards held photos of the houses and land for sale – one picture per property with a short description – both mounted on a piece of colored construction paper. Remember – no computers, no digital cameras. Photo prints were expensive, so we didn’t take many shots.

Our listing and purchase contracts were one page each. The “fine print” was on the reverse, and very few people ever looked at it. We had no property condition or lead paint disclosures. No one required a pest inspection or testing for radon gas.

This being a rural area, we did often have to do a mortgage survey – have the septic tank and the well checked out.

Everyone represented the seller – either as an agent or a subagent. Remember “Buyer beware?” Buyers still sued for misrepresentation, however.

When we wanted to learn who owned a vacant property, we drove to the County Courthouse and did a search by hand. It was a day-long project.

Our small town didn’t have MLS. No one here was a REALTOR®. So, to learn about each other’s listings, we called or visited other offices and asked a lot of questions. One broker I worked for used to get angry when I’d tell other agents about a listing – his theory was that the buyers wouldn’t find what they wanted “down the street” so they’d come to us and we’d sell our own darned listings. We didn’t have lock boxes, either. The keys hung in the office.

ADA and Fair Housing regulations hadn’t yet stifled an agent’s ability to describe property. We could still say bad words like “see, walk, hear, and family.” But we were stingy with words when we advertised – because we paid for those newspaper ads by the word.

No one in town put their photo on a business card until 1994. That’s when my son and I went to the NAR convention and ordered some from a vendor there. Soon others followed.

They also followed when we started putting our brochures in a box outside the office door for evening browsers to take, and putting property flyers on our signs. I’m not so sure we started something good with that one, because I see so many empty ones when I’m out and about.

Over the 19 years that I held an active license, things changed drastically – but I see them changing even more since I left sales. For instance, in all the time I sold real estate, I only had to deal with a short sale twice. I was the Fannie Mae agent in town, and while there were a few times that I had more than one of their listings at the same time, usually many months went by between listings. Now dealing with short sales and repossessed homes is a major part of your business.

So… do you think it would be fun to go back to the way things were in 1985?

Computers have made communication and marketing easier and cheaper now. But the work I see you doing over and above what we did back then makes me tired. You have so many more regulations and so much more paperwork to do. You have cell phones that let customers and other agents find you no matter where you are – and they expect you to respond. You can do more in less time – and you push yourselves to do it.

I’m glad that I just write your marketing copy these days.

Comments(34)

Jose L. Torres
RE/MAX Legend - Wayne, NJ

1985...the year I was born...but thank you for giving me a recap of what was going on during that time!!  To someone my age...it sounds crazy!!! hahaha

Jul 22, 2010 06:12 PM
Sidney Kutchuk - Realty Works Temecula Kutchuk - Realty Works Temecula
Realty Works Temecula - Temecula, CA
Realty Works Temecula

Marte:  I obtained my licence in 1989 and I remember how annoying it was that there were all of these Short Sales and vacant homes messing up the landscape.....now I understand!!!!

Jul 22, 2010 06:48 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Jose - I expect it does sound crazy. You've probably never been without a computer.

Jane - We didn't have short sales and vacant homes here. There were very few repos. But this area was never targted for any of the low down payment programs. We used to feel jealous that programs we read about were not offered here - but as we saw later, that was probably a good thing.

Jul 22, 2010 07:22 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

I started in 1986 when the interest rates plunged to 8%.  We all worked for the sellers but buyers would call and beg to see homes.  It was a sellers market because the interest rates dropped...

Jul 22, 2010 11:47 PM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Nope I would not want to go back to copying. I remember some of this as I was licensed in 1995. How we got the information to buyers and sellers was tough. Lots of faxes.

Jul 23, 2010 01:09 AM
Richard Strahm
American Foursquare Realty - Lansdale, PA
Lansdale and North Penn Real Estate

It just seems so quaint now!  I was two years out of college then -- just starting my first career.  I knew I wanted to buy a home some day, but was TERRIFIED of the process!

Jul 23, 2010 01:58 AM
Anonymous
Karil Lauren

Marte ~ thanks for the stroll down memory lane~ and what a hoot! I can just picture you running around the office trying to answer that ringing phone ... cracked me up! I can remember working as office manager for a Broker in the mid 90's and typed contracts using carbon paper ... eeek! Now on the other side of the pendulum where I'm just trying to figure out this whole social media / bloggin thing!

Jul 23, 2010 01:58 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

In 1985 real estate classified ads were starting their eventual decline and homes magazines were starting to pop up on the horizon.

Jul 23, 2010 02:55 AM
John Howard
Century 21 LeMac Realty - Mountain Home, AR
GRI, Mountain Home, Arkansas 870-404-3614

Marte,  Great Post!  I started in '86......18% interest rates if I remember right...walked to work, uphill both coming and going....seriously,  Thanks for a great post!

Jul 23, 2010 03:36 AM
Monte Pratt
Jack Pratt Signs - Oklahoma City, OK
Expert in sign manufacturing & graphic design.

Great post Marte!  I remember my dad asking me, "Why would we ever need a fax" and eventually "Why would we need e-mail?"  I agree the technological advances we've made have and will augment our business practices, but they should never fully replace them.  More personal attention is needed and even craved for more so these days in order to maintain good client relationships.

Jul 23, 2010 04:02 AM
Carra Riley & Declan Kenyon
Brokers Guild Cherry Creek Ltd - Westminster, CO
Helping people Transition at all ages!

Marte....Thanks for the time capsule about real estate of yesteryear!  I began my real estate career in 1979 and as they saying goes "we've come along way baby".  Technology has revamped the way we do business dramatically.  It is now possible to do nearly everything except physically show a home via computer.  Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Jul 23, 2010 04:29 AM
Keith Cox
Freedom Mortgage - Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Sales Manager | Loan Officer | Freedom Mortgage

Hi Marte,

Wow, this is a testament to the dedication and sacrifice of the Real Estate Agents still in the business for all of these years. When I hear these stories, it makes me grateful that technology has evolved; I couldn't imagine doing business that way.. Take Care..

www.workingweekends.com

Jul 23, 2010 04:42 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Oh - I had forgotten about the carbon paper. That was awful!

Remember trying to erase mistakes on all the copies and how great it was when white out came on the scene. I remember making a mess with those blobs of white... I was so thankful when they started making on those little tape rolls.

Anybody remember what year we got FedEx? I'm sure other places got it before we did, because our area is always a few years behind the curve. But I remember talking with a loan officer who was in a hurry to get documents ready to take to FedEx and wondering what the heck she was talking about.

All this kinda makes me wonder what someone will say when they look back at 2010. What new advances in communication will we have in another 20 years or so?

In a way all these changes have streamlined business to allow more time for personal contact with clients - and in another way they have made it tougher. You have so many more things to do now - more ways to market both yourselves and your listings plus so many technological "interruptions" - and they all take a chunk of time.

Keith - we didn't know it was tough to do business that way - it just was how it was.

Jul 23, 2010 05:15 AM
Rob Magnotta
Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Seal Beach, Irvine REALTOR - Huntington Beach, CA
Huntington Beach & Newport Beach Coastal Specialist

While this was before my time, I find the information fascinating. Thanks for a great post!

Jul 23, 2010 05:42 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I wish I could say it was before my time but I started before that.  Giant MLS books would show up once a week that were 4" thick.  In the spring, there were 2 of them!  I can't say I wish to go back, I actually work less hours now & really none at night.

Jul 23, 2010 06:30 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Lyn - Our books weren't that thick because ours is a more sparsley populated area... but I remember trying to dig through them to find homes. It was a chore!

Jul 23, 2010 07:28 AM
Li Read
Sea to Sky Premier Properties (Salt Spring) - Salt Spring Island, BC
Caring expertise...knowledge for you!

Everything you describe here was also the case in 1989....no, I would never go back to those days!    I appreciate the lift that technology gives us.

Jul 24, 2010 05:45 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

I do too! There's no way I could do what I do for a living without the Internet.

Jul 24, 2010 06:21 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

We do a lot more than in the 80s.  Mom's been in it since the 70s, and I've seen the difference.  Clients couldn't find you if you weren't in the office, and didn't really seem to think 24/7 existed.  If you didn't get back to a client in 20 minutes, it was okay. 

 

Maybe it was better in some ways, but I sometimes wonder how anything got done.

Jul 25, 2010 12:02 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Christine - we had more time to work. Didn't have to check our email every few minutes!

Seriously... life was kind of nice before the age of "instant gratification." I used to work evenings and week-ends, but there was a limit. No one expected you to call or answer your phone after a certain time in the evening, and if you didn't take calls during the dinner hour, they respected it.

We probably still have it easier here than in cities. There are so many places that have no cell service that customers understand if an agent is out showing homes and can't respond instantly.

Jul 25, 2010 12:27 PM