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THE VIEW - SUZE ORMAN SAYS NO TO HOMEOWNERSHIP

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Real Estate Agent with Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 NRDS ID#641625055

The View - Suze Orman

When I find myself working from home, during the middle of the day, I frequently turn on "The View." I've been watching it for many years and always enjoy the guests and the show co-hosts who have varied political leanings, experiences and opinions. Today's guest was Suze Orman, the financial advisor. I'm a big fan and generally like her conservative opinions on saving, spending and investing money. However, in today's topic about real estate, I thought the news she delivered was a bit depressing and I can't help wondering about its accuracy. Suze Orman said that she felt the housing market would not fully recover until 2025. She says the sobering statistics show that at least 1 out of every 5 people has an upside down mortgage and that the homeowner would do just about anything to be rid of the property that's ruining his life. Only if you can get a "steal of a deal" should you consider buying a house, warns Suze Orman. Otherwise, "you should rent" until the economy improves, she advocates.

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About a year or so ago, I heard Suze Orman say the market wouldn't recover until 2015. While this was certainly not good news, it still felt within reach. Halfway done with 2011 and we're really not far away. But now, she's pushed it back to 2025 and this feels completely unattainable. Since I'm in the business, I prefer, as we all do, to maintain a positive outlook. I still believe in the need for homeownership. Several months ago, I replied to someone asking for thoughts on an article that had been written attacking homeownership. At the time, this is how I felt:

The recent Times cover entitled "Rethinking Homeownership" detailed the disadvantages of owning a home during these very tumultuous economic times. In contrast, the NAR survey, chose to focus on all the social benefits that have traditionally been attached to homeownership. In all likelihood, homeownership is "not a goal that should be pursued by everyone at all costs" but historically, the leaders of our country saw it as the path to the "American Dream" and I still believe it's worth pursuing.

Painting a room any color you wish is certainly a plus, Much more important, however, is that "homeowners tend to have more social ties than renters, as they have time to create lasting relationships, and are more involved in local politics and community happenings." A completely positive, domino-like, effect can only come out of greater social ties. You need to feel like part of a community in order to be happy there and successfully raise a family.

When you've lived in one place your whole life, it becomes a part of who you are. You have roots there. In time, your children will grow up, and perhaps they'll move away during the years they're pursuing their education and are enjoying a single lifestyle. However, to a town they know so well and that means to much, when the time comes to marry and to start a family, they will often come back. There's something to be said for the continuity of any family name in a community. It's a good feeling to hear "I knew you when..."

Finally, I always considered homeownership a type of forced savings. When it's time to sell your property, the equity will be there waiting for you. The money is not lost.

Seven months later, this is still how I feel, but surrounded by so much gloom and doom, I wonder if we have any shot at recovery? Can this be a self-fulfilling prophecy?

 

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Comments(16)

Lynda Eisenmann
Preferred Home Brokers - Brea, CA
Broker Associate ,CRS,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA, Orange Co

Hi Jill,

I saw the same program this a.m. She also said something to the effect that if you're 50% or more upside down and the bank won't work with you then...walk.

May 16, 2011 03:17 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Lynda - She absolutely said that on national television.

May 16, 2011 03:33 PM
Sheila Newton Team Anderson & Greenville SC
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices - C. Dan Joyner - Anderson, SC
Selling the Upstate since 1989

I think the guys like her on TV are making the problem worse. People hear that and panic.. And it is just ridiculous to say 2025 before things are better. good grief, they will have gotten better and gotten bad again by then...

May 16, 2011 04:32 PM
TERI LINDSAY
Reno, NV
STAGELIGHT HOME STAGING CO.

For the average American, buying a new home is nearly impossible.... qualifying for a loan. So many have lost homes to foreclosure, and with that comes the impossibility of qualifying for a loan anytime soon. Most of todays college grads/young families have accumulated so much debt (credit cards and student loans) that qualifying is impossible (or with a very high rate of interest). Everyone of my friends and family ARE "upside down" in their properties. Very discouraging.  Reality check: Suzie Orman knows what she is talking about. She would not go on national TV and present her opinions based on "heresay".  Her record of predicting the future US and Global economy has been "right on". She is preparing us for what is coming next. The foreclosures will be "snatched up" by investors and turned into rental income properties..... just like the "landlords" of the "middle ages".  Homeownership just will not be obtainable for millions because we simply cannot qualify!

 

May 16, 2011 04:56 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

they will have gotten better and gotten bad again by then... that's so funny, Sheila.

Teri - I'm a big fan of Suze Orman. I just hope this one time she's being overly cautious in her predictions.

May 17, 2011 01:51 AM
Rhonda Burgess
Southern Living Realty Partners - Smyrna, TN
Moving to Nashville TN Real Estate Specialist

I agree with walking if you are sooo upside down and these banks got a bailout but in turn will not help the homeowner. 

May 17, 2011 04:08 AM
Belinda Spillman
Aspen Lane Real Estate Colorful Colorado - Aurora, CO
Colorado Living!

Jill,  I hate it when people try to predict the future.  I have found that they are usually way off base.  They should just talk about the present.

May 17, 2011 05:08 AM
Ron Marshall
Marshall Enterprises - Saint Michael, MN
Birdhouse Builder Extraordinaire

Jill, I think some cooler heads around here have said she really doesn't know.  And no one does. 

Just take it one day at a time. 

May 17, 2011 06:42 AM
Steve and Jan Bachman
RE/MAX Gateway, Reston, Herndon, Ashburn, Sterling, Fairfax - Herndon, VA
Realtors - Northern Virginia

So much of what we all do is re-educate the public about the difference between the national market and the local. Between predictions and actuality.

NOTE to SUZE...inventory is down, prices are up and interest rates are still low in the Washington DC area.

The economy is personal ....the national economy can be bad but a buyers situation could be awesome!!! Great post Jill.

May 17, 2011 10:00 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Rhonda - I appreciate your viewpoint as a short sale specialist.

Belinda - I imagine you're probably right. I heard 2025 and I thought, "Oh, no. I could be retiring by then."

Ron - Thanks so much. That's exactly what I'm going to do: focus on the present.

Steve and Jan - Really great point. Where she lives in Florida may be worse than other parts of the country.

May 17, 2011 10:51 AM
Ellen Caruso
Daniel Gale Sotheby's International Realty - Glen Head, NY

Jill, everyone thinks they have a crystal ball, but the truth is no one knows. We can only hope for things to improve but not feel desperate for how they are now.

May 18, 2011 10:40 AM
Cindy Westfall
Premiere Property Group,LLC Portland Metro & Suburbs Oregon - Tualatin, OR
ABR,GRI Your Tualatin & Portland Metro Real Estate

Hi Jill, Steve & Jan have a great comment. Real Estate is localized and in every State and City there are pockets of real estate locations that have always been popular for their specifics and even in this economy have had short days on the market and garner a high list to sale ratio. Although I can obviously see that it is much harder today to get a loan and many homeowers are upside down, I think when Suze speaks in national terms, it doesn't help and gives generalizations. No one can predict what the future holds...oh wait..isn't today supposed to be the end of the world?

May 21, 2011 08:02 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Ellen and Cindy - It's now 10:00 p.m. and I'm still here. I was so looking forward to the rapture but now, I guess, I still have to have that open house tomorrow. I've recovered from the shock of what Suze said and I'm just going to focus on the present, like everyone else advised.

May 21, 2011 02:59 PM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Jill - First and foremost, I am NOT a fan of Suze Orman.  I find it incredibly presumptuous of her to predict the future - NO ONE CAN DO THAT!  Like others have stated, real estate is incredibly local and while some areas of the country may not recover as soon as other areas, there will always be people buying homes and as long as the affordability index remains as high as it is (the affordability index has actually increased in the past year), people will find a way to buy a home. 

Whether it be improving the credit history or saving money for a down payment, those who really want a home will find a way to buy.  I speak from experience when I say this.  In the meantime, I will continue to ignore Suze Orman (as I always have) and all of her doom and gloom and I will continue to serve my buyers (every month) with buying a home. 

May 21, 2011 03:29 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Thank you Donne for your calming response which stems from your years of experience. I trust your opinion and also feel that those who want a home will find a way to buy. I can't help but wonder why you are not a fan of Suze Orman. In all other matters, she appears to make sense.

May 21, 2011 03:50 PM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Jill - Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  I was cleaning out my inbox and saw your comment notice and realized I never responded back.  I could go into a handful of reasons why I ignore Suze Orman but that is a whole other post that I may one day post.  For now, I will just address the topic at hand.

As an MLO in Los Angeles & Ventura counties (two very high cost counties), I have devoted my entire 8.5yr mortgage career to serving the mortgage needs of low-median income borrowers.  For so many years, our market was simply out of reach for many of these prospective buyers.  At that time, I was doing mostly FHA loans partnered up with various city, county and state administered down payment assistance programs.  The most popular ones being the bond programs that were the ones that were pretty much self funded from local bond sales.

While I agree that homeownership is not for everyone and fully realize that there are people who just simply have no business owning a home, I do advocate for those that can and do want to own and who are willing to do what it takes to own, even if that means making sacrifices in order to do it.  Quite frankly, realizing the American dream should be about making sacrifies in order to get it.

Right now, the homeownership affordability index here in Los Angeles & Ventura counties is at an all-time high and rents are rising and vacancies are down.  Right now, most of my borrowers are buying modest (no McMansions for my folks) 3-4bd homes for the same or less than what they were paying for dinky 2-3bd apts/condos and their doing so by means of the affordable home loan options that are available to them.  These are not the 100% financed, liar stated loans of the earlier market, almost all of these (with the exception of USDA Rural program) require that the buyer come in with their own funds and they are all full-doc loans with very stringent dti ratios and underwriting guidelines.

However, Suze Orman would have all of these folks paying higher rents on their dinky apts simply because they don't have 20% down.  SERIOUSLY???  SoCA has been devasted by short sales and foreclosures and the biggest market of sales around here are the properties in the low-end of the market (400k<).  Who do you think are buying those homes?  Granted, a sizeable portion are all cash investors but the majority are being purchased by the low-median income buyers who were priced out of the market years ago.

Once again, Suze Orman would have all these properties just sitting around waiting for the influx of buyers with 20% to put down to buy them.  SERIOUSLY!!!    Anyway, as I mentioned before, I could go on about some of the nonsense that Suze Orman spews but I've gone on long enough.  I think I've made my point, for now at least.  Ok, I'm getting down off my soapbox now.  You have a good day Jill.  :)

Jun 16, 2011 05:55 AM